Dangerfield on Kelly

[romeohwho]

And this flog is the president of the AFLPA? lol

Lol. Terrific president actually. If you read the whole interview, his comments were ok.
The rather tedious outrage culture in fine voice on here.

 

[Cactus_]

This is a very poor take by Danger and thought he was better than this. Kelly was disposing of the ball, why would Danger need to protect himself against him?

Danger: “I’ve got a duty of care to protect myself”.

That would be funny. If the other bloke hadn’t got his face smashed.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Not sure how accelerating and jumping into a player that has gotten rid of a ball is protecting himself...

Protecting his reputation as a ****ing lad who likes laying out campaigners.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Didn’t do a great job of protecting himself considering they clashed heads did he?

 

[Cactus_]

I’m going to go against what a few think -

I actually like the fact that they seem to be putting some more emphasis on outcome compared to intent.

If someone does something stupid in the heat of the moment with very little force and very little potential for injury - I’m not too worried.

Where the is high speed, great force, great potential for damage is when the consequences need to be significant to try to make sure people take it seriously.

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[Thedeftouch]

He was just trying to defend himself from the stationary nose of Jake Kelly

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[Golden_6]

Jesus could this guy be any more of a self indulgent flog?

 

[Big_Birdy]

He was just trying to defend himself from the stationary nose of Jake Kelly

Shades of Peter Cavan’s vicious attempt to take out plugger with a headbutt. Plugger had no choice but to protect himself

 

[Farm Boy]

Concussion injuries are the biggest threat to what has become an already unplayable game. I’ve said this for years. But the act of contesting the football has become so gray.


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[Paul Kersey]

4 weeks. Just as dirty as his GF hit.

 

[Saint]

There are too many cases where somebody with malicious intent, such as Astbury, gets off with a slap on the wrist, while Dangerfield engaging in unavoidable contact will get weeks.

No punishment system should be set up in such a way that these outcomes are more likely than not.

Every time you enter a contest, a head clash is a distinct possibility. Does this mean every player who makes incidental head contact and the player leading with the face/head is going to get rubbed out? Because that's where we're headed.

 

[BACCS]

4 weeks. Just as dirty as his GF hit.

The AFL have since then changed the rules to ensure what happened to Kelly isn’t a grey area anymore. It will be 3 weeks as a starting point and it will be at the discretion of the tribunal from there to decide if more weeks are required.

 

[beema limapep]

So you can charge at someone as hard as you want and then just at the last moment decide you need to protect yourself wiping out the opponent in the process.

Use that in the tribunal and they will probably add a week

I had to accelerate at the player without the ball, break his nose and concuss him to protect myself.

I also enjoy driving into oncoming traffic and accelerating into the drivers side to protect myself.

 

[BACCS]

There are too many cases where somebody with malicious intent, such as Astbury, gets off with a slap on the wrist, while Dangerfield engaging in unavoidable contact will get weeks.

No punishment system should be set up in such a way that these outcomes are more likely than not.

Every time you enter a contest, a head clash is a distinct possibility. Does this mean every player who makes incidental head contact and the player leading with the face/head is going to get rubbed out? Because that's where we're headed.

Kelly wasn’t entering a contest, he was just trying to dispose of the ball. He was absolutely defenseless in this situation. It’s very different if they were both going for a ground ball and clash heads. If you chose to go with the force that Danger did, then if it causes a severe injury such as concussion then it deserves to be punished.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I actually think Dangerfield should be fined for his comments today. He should not be publically pressuring the tribunal in that way. He is abusing his position of power to well be abusive really

10k fine if you ask me

 

[Shadow89]

Treacy just got 6 weeks for a tackle in the reserves, so I'd guess anything from 1 week to 50 lashes.

It was a punch, and it was 2 weeks, but he's out for 4 weeks due to the WAFL season starting later

I know this as a Fantasy player...but it's your team, how do you not know this?

Josh Treacy suspended by WAFL tribunal

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Josh Treacy suspended by WAFL tribunal
Josh Treacy's verdict at the WAFL tribunal is in
By fremantlefc.com.au - 4 days ago

"Fremantle forward Josh Treacy has been suspended for two matches by the WAFL tribunal for striking.
The incident occurred during Peel’s pre-season clash against Perth at David Grays Arena on Saturday."

 

[beema limapep]

Hoping he gets up to 6 weeks. But no more. Needs to play against Richmond so we can again show him what a champion team looks like.

 

[Saint]

Kelly wasn’t entering a contest, he was just trying to dispose of the ball. He was absolutely defenseless in this situation. It’s very different if they were both going for a ground ball and clash heads. If you chose to go with the force that Danger did, then if it causes a severe injury such as concussion then it deserves to be punished.

Kelly was going fast out of defence with the ball and Dangerfield going towards him and they were going to make contact well before Kelly disposed of the ball. Had Dangerfield baulked when he would have had to to avoid contact, Kelly could have run around him. Kelly knew contact was coming, made the team decisino to draw the defender before disposing of the ball. Dangerfield did the right thing by going at the ball carrier to pressure the disposal or tackle if he didn't dispose of it.

Neither of them did the wrong thing.

Kelly could have disposed of it two steps earlier and there wouldn't have been contact. In a head clash like that, it could very easily have come off the other way. But our game isn't about trying to avoid contact.

After thinking about it, I think the only solution for Dangerfield would have been to spear-tackle Kelly to avoid contact with the head, but then he has to worry about Kelly's head hitting the ground, because dangerous tackles are also outlawed.......this is the problem, where will it end....

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Danger: “I’ve got a duty of care to protect myself”.

That would be funny. If the other bloke hadn’t got his face smashed.

how does bumping into a guy recklessly protect yourself?

Why not tackle him?

 

[BACCS]

Kelly was going fast out of defence with the ball and Dangerfield going towards him and they were going to make contact well before Kelly disposed of the ball. Had Dangerfield baulked when he would have had to to avoid contact, Kelly could have run around him. Kelly knew contact was coming, made the team decisino to draw the defender before disposing of the ball. Dangerfield did the right thing by going at the ball carrier to pressure the disposal or tackle if he didn't dispose of it.

Neither of them did the wrong thing.

Kelly could have disposed of it two steps earlier and there wouldn't have been contact. In a head clash like that, it could very easily have come off the other way. But our game isn't about trying to avoid contact.

After thinking about it, I think the only solution for Dangerfield would have been to spear-tackle Kelly to avoid contact with the head, but then he has to worry about Kelly's head hitting the ground, because dangerous tackles are also outlawed.......this is the problem, where will it end....

That is nonsense, Danger had just been run down by Hamill and Kelly then picked up the ball. Tackling a player from front on happens many times in a game, but Kelly had already disposed of the ball before Danger had got there (as he had just been tackled), so then went with a hit (instead of a tackle) he could’ve pulled out of (as it was going to result in a down field free regardless).

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Jesus could this guy be any more of a self indulgent flog?

I was off him the week after he had that 5 goal 6 behind game against the Hawks when people thought he broke his leg and his season was over, the very next presser, him rolling out with his head covered in bandages and his arm in a sling with the Geelong media fully fawning and giggling along with him like school girls. Real w*nker style

 

[theyellowsash]

This is a very poor take by Danger and thought he was better than this. Kelly was disposing of the ball, why would Danger need to protect himself against him?

what made you think he was better than that? throughout his career hes shown himself to be a selfish self absorbed flog, and its only gotten worse as the aflpa and geelong have enabled it

 

[SellarStardom]

Lost some respect for Danger after his comments today

 

[SellarStardom]

Lost some respect for Danger after his comments today

 

[Saint]

That is nonsense, Danger had just been run down by Hamill and Kelly then picked up the ball. Tackling a player from front on happens many times in a game, but Kelly had already disposed of the ball before Danger had got there (as he had just been tackled), so then went with a hit (instead of a tackle) he could’ve pulled out of (as it was going to result in a down field free regardless).

Contact was unavoidable when Kelly handballed it and both were going at speed, so it was always going to be tough contact. It happens 20 times a quarter that a player makes contact immediately after a play disposes of it. In this case, Dangerfield happened to be going flat out.

Did the Crows players even remonstrate? They acknowledged there was no intent to cause injury. If he'd jumped, raised an arm, it would be different. But he couldn't change direction until Kelly disposed of it, and by then it was too late to avoid contact. Which Kelly did intentionally so the person he gave it to would be clear, he drew Dangerfield towards himself.

I also think Dangerfield is a self-indulgent flog, but doesn't mean he should get rubbed out for an accidental head clash.