All champions but I think the order is clear. Martin then Dangerfield then Fyfe
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Not accolades ground coverage, footy disciplines.Did he do it all ? In a single year like Dusty?
Yes with dusty playing 64 more games and danger 93 it’s hard to pass the other two career wise.All champions but I think the order is clear. Martin then Dangerfield then Fyfe
Of course you don’t. But you’re Richmond fan boy.AA, AFLPA MVP , every media award, Gary Ayres Medal, B and F … most brownlow votes ever and Norm Smith.
I don’t think it’s debatable …
This is not a Richmond fan boy opinion. Leigh Matthews said the same thing and he's no Richmond fan boy.Of course you don’t. But you’re Richmond fan boy.
Plenty of others on here agree that it’s very very debatable and a debate he’d lose
Of course you don’t. But you’re Richmond fan boy.
Plenty of others on here agree that it’s very very debatable and a debate he’d lose
If kicking 4 goals on jake kolo is something of a legendary feature then i guess jordan de goey is a legend also??They can debate all they want … No disrespect to Dustys teammates but the Tigers don’t win 2017 and 2020 with out him.
3 norm smiths 3 premiership medals…
2 of those are his own making.
Fyfe can enjoy his 2 brownlows and his ground coverage.
Sorry mate but its a very legimitate debate. Dangerfield has had a much more consistent career to a higher standard than martin, and fyfe has won two brownlows. All 3 are on equal termsThey can debate all they want … No disrespect to Dustys teammates but the Tigers don’t win 2017 and 2020 with out him.
3 norm smiths 3 premiership medals…
2 of those are his own making.
Fyfe can enjoy his 2 brownlows and his ground coverage.
Lol Fyfe was awesome in the GF.Swap out Fyfe for Martin in the 2013 GF and Freo have a premiership.
It’s that simple.
he also struggled immensely for consistency across his career which indicates a less talented player. I am a strong believer that consistency equals talent. All consistency means is the ability under a variety of situations and circumstances to perform to a high level.. dusty couldn’t do this. He needed a lot of things going his way to perform to a high level. Players like fyfe and dangerfield could put the team on their back better than he could.
The point of his inconsistency is more in relation to midfielders who have had far superior careers than him such as ablett jnr leigh matthews carey ablett snr. He did not produce elite stats for more than a couple of seasons which does not put you anywhere near GOAT discussions.Lacking consistency? He averaged 20 disposals and a goal a game in 10 of his 13 completed seasons. The ones he didn't were his first year, last year when he was mourning the loss of his old man and 2016 when he was a full time midfielder (averaging 31 disposals), 6 top 10 brownlow finishes, including a win and 3rd.
There is a common misconception that Dusty was inconsistent. That is because he was a victim of the standards he set for himself in 2017. His 2018 and 2019 seasons were also very good and outside of a 3 ish disposals per game lower, had very similar numbersto his 2017 season.
So to say Dusty isn't consistent is a bunch of misinformed nonsense.
The point of his inconsistency is more in relation to midfielders who have had far superior careers than him such as ablett jnr leigh matthews carey ablett snr. He did not produce elite stats for more than a couple of seasons which does not put you anywhere near GOAT discussions.
He is obviously a very good player and in discussions as the best player of the past decade, but i dont think any rational people will be putting him in GOAT discussions. His career as a whole is just not at the required standard others have performed to over 200-300 game careers.
Lol garry ablett averaged 30.8 disposals a game from 2007-2014. Including 8 AA, 2 brownlows and 5 Leigh matthews awards and 3 coaches mvps. a This is from roughly age 23-30. Martin averaged 26.4 disposals from 2014-2020… 3AA’s only and 3 norm smiths.. which is fair to call his mature prime years. Not even close to Garry.Ummmm.... what?
Also, you list GAJ. Dustin Martin's career averages are extremely close to Ablett Jr's. GAJ is ahead by 0.35 disposals per game, 0.11 goals per game, 0.3 clearances per game and 0.02 goal assists per game. Dusty is ahead by 0.24 Inside 50's per game, 0.2 contested marks, 0.05 marks inside 50 and 0.02 brownlow votes per game.
His "career" certainly stacks up against Gary's.
Lol Fyfe was awesome in the GF.
That is single handedly the most ridiculous comment I have ever seen. You blokes probably win another 2 flags if you had Fyfe playing for you at the peak of his powersSwap out Fyfe for Martin in the 2013 GF and Freo have a premiership.
It’s that simple.