Vic Daniel Andrews and the Statue of Limitations

[Sttew]

And here come the conspiracy theories. Again.

Where on earth is the conspiracy theory in that post? You don’t have a sense of humour? The point of the post as I read it is that the feasibility study may as well have been done on an envelope given how wrong the government got the costs etc.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Where on earth is the conspiracy theory in that post? You don’t have a sense of humour? The point of the post as I read it is that the feasibility study may as well have been done on an envelope given how wrong the government got the costs etc.

Is the CGA going to turn up to this stunt enquiry and explain their fu*k-up?

 

[My_Username]

That's an incredibly selective reading of an increased majority.

It's just delusion all the way down. Which is why his opponents and detractors who are absurdly out of touch with the Victorian electorate keep being wrong.

Having a large swing against (1st pref and to a lesser degree 2PP), and having fewer MPs in parliament ( 73 down to 71 ) is not a 'landslide win', nor is it an increased majority.

 

[Kanga Commando]

name the blunders that cost us $1bn with nothing to show for it

When they entered office they killed a LNP eastern fwy extension and lost over $1B based on pure spite. ( i will concede the contract should not have been signed )

But, I’m still not sure that ”nothing to show for it” reflects good governance.

Myki for instance was planned at around $740M initially, but blew out to $1.3B

Health database went from around $300M to over $500M

I heard one figure of $28B in screwed up project losses - but I don’t have a source for that. If i find it i will post it.

 

[Caj]

Vulnerable children to lose classroom support in big cut to specialised teachers

Emily Shepard, whose son Louis has vision and hearing loss, said there had been no consultation by the department, hearing the news via email from a colleague.

amp.theage.com.au

Daniel “the grub” Andrews latest move, I’m pretty sure the money he pissed away on the Commonwealth Games debacle would’ve more than covered this

Look forward to his sycophants on here trying to spin a positive out of this one

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Having a large swing against (1st pref and to a lesser degree 2PP), and having fewer MPs in parliament ( 73 down to 71 ) is not a 'landslide win', nor is it an increased majority.

They increased their lower house majority by a seat beyond the 2018 Danslide election and experienced a minor 2pp swing against. When people refer to an increased majority, it is in reference to the lower house.

Since then polling has suggested voters have a more favourable disposition than the 55 45 2pp result.

So it's not like the Libs are making up ground.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Vulnerable children to lose classroom support in big cut to specialised teachers

Emily Shepard, whose son Louis has vision and hearing loss, said there had been no consultation by the department, hearing the news via email from a colleague.

amp.theage.com.au

Daniel “the grub” Andrews latest move, I’m pretty sure the money he pissed away on the Commonwealth Games debacle would’ve more than covered this

Look forward to his sycophants on here trying to spin a positive out of this one

This is terrible news, I wish the Libs and media hadn't hysterically opposed redirecting a small amount of future funding from private schools back to the public sector.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Where on earth is the conspiracy theory in that post? You don’t have a sense of humour? The point of the post as I read it is that the feasibility study may as well have been done on an envelope given how wrong the government got the costs etc.

Who knew a global inflationary crisis and worsened supply constraints could change the economic calculus.

The Reserve Bank certainly didn't, which is the body that advises the state and federal governments on macroeconomic trends.

 

[Kanga Commando]

Who knew a global inflationary crisis and worsened supply constraints could change the economic calculus.

The Reserve Bank certainly didn't, which is the body that advises the state and federal governments on macroeconomic trends.

Who knew ?
The other states of Australia have not dug financial holes like this. Victorian debt is greater than NSW, QLD and TAS combined.

But hey, we win. Yippee.

 

[Gralin]

 

[Satan]

Fifty serious criminals have had their convictions wiped under a new law,including a child molester, killer driver and child pr0n creep, in secret court hearings that have left victims in the dark.
More than 90 offenders have applied to the magistrates’ court to have their criminal records scrapped in the past year under the new Spent Convictions Act, where judicial officers make decisions in chambers or during closed court hearings.

The law was introduced by the Andrews government in two phases in 2021 – the first stage gave low-level offenders a second chance by having their records automatically wiped following ten years of good behaviour

 

[deck]

When they entered office they killed a LNP eastern fwy extension and lost over $1B based on pure spite. ( i will concede the contract should not have been signed )

But, I’m still not sure that ”nothing to show for it” reflects good governance.

Myki for instance was planned at around $740M initially, but blew out to $1.3B

Health database went from around $300M to over $500M

I heard one figure of $28B in screwed up project losses - but I don’t have a source for that. If i find it i will post it.

Based on spite? It was a major election issue that they promised if voted in they wouldn't build.

Myki on the other hand was a huge blunder. The most ridiculous thing about it it was the gave the train network contract to MTR around the same time who already had a great system in the Octopus card that was up and running and already better than what Myki become.

 

[Caj]

This is terrible news, I wish the Libs and media hadn't hysterically opposed redirecting a small amount of future funding from private schools back to the public sector.

Didn’t take long for sycophant #1 to show up with one of the dumbest posts in bigfooty history

 

[adogsfan5]

Not simply make up stories to get mad at. Which has been a constant feature of these threads, seeing as the conspiracies have never materialised, nor the impending disasters of crime waves, economic collapse, massive corruption, Chinese takeover of Victoria, electoral annihilation or stupid stuff like stair gate and his wife's car accident.

We were talking about the inquiry and the comm games.. what would you like them to say about that?
I don’t see any predictions stating that he’s in strife..? Who’s making stuff up? Is it now a conspiracy stating that there’s an inquiry or that it’s good news that an inquiry will occur?

An inquiry is going to occur.. should nothing be said because you are claiming you already know the result?
Isn’t it sad that predictions are already made that nothing will come from it. Meanwhile we forget why an inquiry is even being done in the first place.

Sums up where politics is at.

 

[Satan]

Based on spite? It was a major election issue that they promised if voted in they wouldn't build.

Myki on the other hand was a huge blunder. The most ridiculous thing about it it was the gave the train network contract to MTR around the same time who already had a great system in the Octopus card that was up and running and already better than what Myki become.

Know a guy who writes this software for overseas train system , he told me the state government could have spent a small amount to get the software rewritten for our system

 

[Kanga Commando]

Thats the great thing about the Auditor General leaving damning reports into the economic performance of the current government, they dont go away.

Major Projects Performance | Victorian Auditor-General's Office

This audit assessed if public sector reporting of major capital projects contains relevant and sufficient information to enable Parliament to understand project performance against approved scope, cost, time and benefit expectations.

www.audit.vic.gov.au

Victorian taxpayers to bear half the cost of $2.7b Metro Tunnel budget blowout

The cost of the Victorian Government's signature rail project blows out by $2.74 billion, with half the cost to be borne by taxpayers, after a year of protracted negotiations between the State Government and builders.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Gralin]

Thats the great thing about the Audit General leaving damning reports into the economic performance of the current government, they dont go away.

Major Projects Performance | Victorian Auditor-General's Office

This audit assessed if public sector reporting of major capital projects contains relevant and sufficient information to enable Parliament to understand project performance against approved scope, cost, time and benefit expectations.

www.audit.vic.gov.au

Victorian taxpayers to bear half the cost of $2.7b Metro Tunnel budget blowout

The cost of the Victorian Government's signature rail project blows out by $2.74 billion, with half the cost to be borne by taxpayers, after a year of protracted negotiations between the State Government and builders.

www.abc.net.au

So boring

 

[Satan]

Thats the great thing about the Audit General leaving damning reports into the economic performance of the current government, they dont go away.

Major Projects Performance | Victorian Auditor-General's Office

This audit assessed if public sector reporting of major capital projects contains relevant and sufficient information to enable Parliament to understand project performance against approved scope, cost, time and benefit expectations.

www.audit.vic.gov.au

Victorian taxpayers to bear half the cost of $2.7b Metro Tunnel budget blowout

The cost of the Victorian Government's signature rail project blows out by $2.74 billion, with half the cost to be borne by taxpayers, after a year of protracted negotiations between the State Government and builders.

www.abc.net.au

Surprised dan hasnt defunded auditor general

 

[deck]

Know a guy who writes this software for overseas train system , he told me the state government could have spent a small amount to get the software rewritten for our system

Of course they could have. Why would you hire a new start up company to do it when there were companies who had already setup efficient systems already. But we all really know the answer to that.

 

[Sttew]

Surprised dan hasnt defunded auditor general

Still waiting for a new commissioner of IBAC to replace Robert Redlich to be appointed. How long is it now?

 

[Satan]

Still waiting for a new commissioner of IBAC to replace Robert Redlich to be appointed. How long is it now?

When train to tulla is built?

 

[My_Username]

They increased their lower house majority by a seat beyond the 2018 Danslide election and experienced a minor 2pp swing against. When people refer to an increased majority, it is in reference to the lower house.

Since then polling has suggested voters have a more favourable disposition than the 55 45 2pp result.

So it's not like the Libs are making up ground.

So winning one lower house seat, while losing 3 in the upper house is an "absolute landslide" now?

I'm not suggestion the Libs are making ground. The Vic Libs are dead in the water. Their entire platform seems to be 'we're just like labor, but not as corrupt'. In a fight against a party that lost 6.2% of their 1st pref vote, the libs managed to...lose 0.71% of their own first pref votes! If they were a serious opposition Dan wouldn't have done nearly as well as he did...but they're not.

But back to the ALP....6.2% 1st pref and 2.3% 2PP swing against, and they still won a seat. Think about that for a while. I'm not suggesting anything untoward (cough), but gee those redistributions worked in the ALP's favor didn't they?

 

[Home Alone]

So winning one lower house seat, while losing 3 in the upper house is an "absolute landslide" now?

I'm not suggestion the Libs are making ground. The Vic Libs are dead in the water. Their entire platform seems to be 'we're just like labor, but not as corrupt'. In a fight against a party that lost 6.2% of their 1st pref vote, the libs managed to...lose 0.71% of their own first pref votes! If they were a serious opposition Dan wouldn't have done nearly as well as he did...but they're not.

But back to the ALP....6.2% 1st pref and 2.3% 2PP swing against, and they still won a seat. Think about that for a while. I'm not suggesting anything untoward (cough), but gee those redistributions worked in the ALP's favor didn't they?

I hope you don't analyse data for a living. Not that any of what you say is wrong, but you are focusing on the wrong data to make an irrelevant point.

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[Sttew]

Is the CGA going to turn up to this stunt enquiry and explain their fu*k-up?

Awarding the Games to Dan?

We wouldn’t need a “stunt enquiry“ if the government came clean. It’s now 17 days since the Games were cancelled and we haven’t been told anything other than cost had spiralled from $2.5bn to $6-$7bn, which is about the same as the budgeted cost of the Brisbane Olympics.

 

[The Punter]

They increased their lower house majority by a seat beyond the 2018 Danslide election and experienced a minor 2pp swing against. When people refer to an increased majority, it is in reference to the lower house.

Since then polling has suggested voters have a more favourable disposition than the 55 45 2pp result.

So it's not like the Libs are making up ground.

The last polling was 53-47. I think it being around the same at the moment is a reasonable analysis.

This is terrible news, I wish the Libs and media hadn't hysterically opposed redirecting a small amount of future funding from private schools back to the public sector.

See, this is the tactic many of the Andrewsstans use so effectively. Andrews' rhetoric on his opposition is that they're irrelevant, but his social media foot soldiers will blame anything he does on the influence of a party he considers irrelevant and a media he doesn't engage with.

In any reasonable analysis, you can't have it both ways. If there is very few examples of bad debt, the decision to cut this service is indefensible. But this is a government happy to slug a private school that ONLY educates special needs kids because its fees are high. Why would you want your kids in the public system if Andrews is removing support and you have the means to look after your kid in the way you see suitable? Most of the commentary about private schools completely ignores the basic human compulsion to use every reasonable means to make things better for your own children, a compulsion that is not learned behaviour but human nature - like the belief that if you work harder, you should earn more.

The Andrews Government is solely to blame for this, and governments ALWAYS need to endure a higher level of scrutiny and accountability than oppositions because they are the government. Don't do as they say when they say "look over there".