Daniel Talia vs Jake Carlisle

[Bailey01]

Nullifying opponent: Talia
Rebound in defence: Carlisle

 

[Catgirl]

Carlisle on both counts for me. Both are pretty inconsistent though.

 

[Macca19]

Talia is the better pure defender. Carlisle is the better and more flexible footballer.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Talia easy.

 

[Mayes]

Talia for sure

 

[Ron The Bear]

Talia's essentially a stopper, Carlisle has greater scope.

 

[Harold Larwood]

Carlisle started with a bang this year but his second half wasn't too great. Talia grew into the season and finished very well. Love the guy and love his commitment to the Crows when many of his type (Victorians) would fall prey to the creature comforts of home and leave after a few years.

Would be happy with both/either though.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Talia is the better pure defender. Carlisle is the better and more flexible footballer.

Talia has flexibility, he just has not been used that way.

 

[Zgope1]

Talia no doubt

 

[BornPort]

Talia is the better defender.

 

[Stratton_Gun]

Carlisle. Was brilliant in the first half of the year. However was poor for the last 2 months

 

[mcday]

Talia's the better defender and had a more consistent year.
Carlisle's first half was better, even if he fell off completely at the end. Certainly offers way more offensively too.

 

[Ambrosia]

As per the thread title I'd go with Talia as the number 1 defender/stopper however I believe Carlisle is the better footballer.

They would make an awesome as a FB and CHB combination.

 

[BM123]

Talia as a defender but in the right team Carlisle can kick more then his fair share up forward.

 

[yaco55]

Carlisle. Was brilliant in the first half of the year. However was poor for the last 2 months

Carlisle's performances in the first half of the year were very good, although a touch over-rated. Had a bad patch from Round 14-18. He was solid in the last 4 games. Don't believe what the media write. Watch games and make your own assessment.

And you will find that Hurley is a better pure defender than Carlisle.

I would play Carlisle forward and Hurley back.

 

[Footypie32]

Carlisle on both counts for me. Both are pretty inconsistent though.

So, you haven't seen Talia play then?

 

[final fight]

Wouldn't the blues love to revisit the 2009 draft. (another blunder you can add to the list)

 

[Superstar swan]

Talia every day of the week

 

[BLPC08]

It's a poor head-to-head IMO. Carlisle should be playing in the forward line, however I can't see Talia playing in any position other than full-back. On that basis, I can only go on who's more talented. Carlisle wins easily IMO, Talia is a good at what he does (although he pushes the limits with his tactics), however I can't see him potentially being a top-10 player in the game. Carlisle could be anything.

 

[Big Trozza]

Talia easily. Carlisle has has multiple big bags kicked on him this year.

 

[LukasTheGreat]

Both should be at the dogs

 

[daniel_4tw]

Different players.

I see Carlisle as a Harry Taylor type swing man that can play forward or back.

Talia is more of your natural full back that won't get a lot of possessions but will restrict the opponent from scoring.

Interesting that Talia very rarely goes forward, however when he does is able to find the goals.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Carlisle. Was brilliant in the first half of the year. However was poor for the last 2 months

He certainly dropped off however he was far from poor overall. Had a couple of bad games but was still pretty effective. Just not up to the standard he set in the first half.

As to the question, id take Carlisle. But Talia is a better pure key defender.

 

[HBF]

Wouldn't the blues love to revisit the 2009 draft. (another blunder you can add to the list)

Sure is.
I think alot of us wanted the club to take Talia instead of Kane Lucas.

 

[DJ75]

Talia is ultra consistent - he is almost never beaten. At worst he tends to break even.
Carlisle is undoubtedly as good player and you would be happy with either, but to take the oppositions best tall forward and shut them down? Talia.
Talia does have flexibility and on the Crows board many have discussed the potential for Talia to play forward should we develop another key defender. Right now we need him in defence, but he has the ability to play a Harry Taylor type role in the future.