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Off to Adelaide next weekend, with the obligatory state library session locked in, as well as taking in a SANFL match.

Filling in some gaps for Kowree-Naracoorte, Lameroo, Tatiara and Western Border from the 1980s while I am there.

What info are you after for the Kowree-Naracoorte and Western Border from the 1980s?
 

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What info are you after for the Kowree-Naracoorte and Western Border from the 1980s?

I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
 
I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF

I can help, have you got an email address?
 
I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
Western Border 1980WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
North Gambier
16​
4​
2292​
1590​
144.2%​
64​
Imperials
13​
17​
95​
East Gambier
14​
6​
2382​
2077​
114.7%​
56​
Hamilton
13​
13​
91​
Penola
14​
6​
2040​
1795​
113.6%​
56​
Qual Final
Hamilton
13​
7​
2339​
1796​
130.2%​
52​
Penola
11​
25​
91​
Imperials
13​
7​
2150​
1726​
124.6%​
52​
East Gambier
11​
17​
83​
Coleraine
12​
8​
2206​
2067​
106.7%​
48​
Semi Final
South Gambier
11​
9​
1901​
1701​
111.8%​
44​
Imperials
23​
11​
149​
Portland
10​
9​
1​
2118​
2007​
105.5%​
42​
East Gambier
20​
13​
133​
West Gambier
7​
13​
1892​
2118​
89.3%​
28​
Semi Final
Casterton
4​
16​
1808​
2441​
74.1%​
16​
North Gambier
17​
22​
124​
Millicent
3​
17​
1578​
2298​
68.7%​
12​
Penola
8​
12​
60​
Heywood
2​
17​
1​
1584​
2674​
59.2%​
10​
Preliminary Final
Imperials
0​
119​
0​
119​
2​
24290​
24290​
Penola
0​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Tony Russell (Hamilton)
101​
101​
Imperials
15​
15​
105​
North Gambier
12​
15​
87​
Western Border 1981WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Hamilton
14​
4​
1960​
1554​
126.1%​
56​
Portland
14​
8​
92​
South Gambier
13​
5​
1942​
1397​
139.0%​
52​
Imperials
6​
14​
50​
East Gambier
12​
6​
2146​
1651​
130.0%​
48​
Qual Final
Portland
11​
7​
2088​
1645​
126.9%​
44​
South Gambier
19​
20​
134​
Imperials
11​
7​
1921​
1580​
121.6%​
44​
East Gambier
13​
12​
90​
Millicent
11​
7​
1674​
1633​
102.5%​
44​
Semi Final
Casterton
10​
8​
1868​
1764​
105.9%​
40​
Portland
19​
24​
138​
Coleraine
9​
9​
1741​
1929​
90.3%​
36​
East Gambier
12​
10​
82​
North Gambier
8​
10​
1638​
1833​
89.4%​
32​
Semi Final
Penola
4​
13​
1​
1482​
1946​
76.2%​
18​
South Gambier
14​
12​
96​
Heywood
2​
15​
1​
1306​
2265​
57.7%​
10​
Hamilton
12​
6​
78​
West Gambier
2​
16​
1413​
1982​
71.3%​
8​
Preliminary Final
Hamilton
17​
14​
116​
107​
0​
107​
2​
21179​
21179​
Portland
11​
17​
83​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final ReplayGrand Final
Neville Osborne (Imperials)
84​
84​
Hamilton
15​
8​
98​
Hamilton
12​
6​
78​
S Gambier
12​
8​
80​
South Gambier
12​
6​
78​
Western Border 1982WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
East Gambier
17​
3​
2975​
1826​
162.9%​
68​
Imperials
16​
15​
111​
South Gambier
17​
3​
2337​
1481​
157.8%​
68​
Coleraine
11​
11​
77​
Portland
15​
5​
2367​
1831​
129.3%​
60​
Qual Final
Imperials
14​
6​
2504​
1960​
127.8%​
56​
South Gambier
11​
10​
76​
Coleraine
13​
7​
2268​
2111​
107.4%​
52​
Portland
8​
26​
74​
West Gambier
12​
8​
2191​
2022​
108.4%​
48​
Semi Final
Hamilton
10​
10​
2134​
2121​
100.6%​
40​
Portland
21​
20​
146​
North Gambier
7​
13​
1890​
2214​
85.4%​
28​
Imperials
13​
7​
85​
Heywood
6​
14​
1907​
2637​
72.3%​
24​
Semi Final
Penola
4​
16​
1912​
2501​
76.4%​
16​
East Gambier
17​
17​
119​
Millicent
3​
17​
1892​
2879​
65.7%​
12​
South Gambier
13​
13​
91​
Casterton
2​
18​
1881​
2675​
70.3%​
8​
Preliminary Final
South Gambier
21​
23​
149​
120​
0​
120​
0​
26258​
26258​
Portland
13​
13​
91​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Robbie Lawson ((East Gambier)
136​
136​
East Gambier
17​
21​
123​
Neville Osborne (Imp)
95​
5​
South Gambier
12​
14​
86​
John Phillips (Port)
104​
Western Border 1983WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
East Gambier
18​
2​
2653​
1846​
143.7%​
72​
West Gambier
10​
17​
77​
Millicent
16​
4​
2564​
1646​
155.8%​
64​
Casterton
8​
17​
65​
Portland
16​
4​
2663​
1741​
153.0%​
64​
Qual Final
West Gambier
13​
7​
2042​
1805​
113.1%​
52​
Millicent
11​
18​
84​
Casterton
11​
9​
1931​
1916​
100.8%​
44​
Portland
8​
14​
62​
Imperials
10​
10​
2176​
1966​
110.7%​
40​
Semi Final
South Gambier
10​
10​
2054​
1928​
106.5%​
40​
Portland
17​
19​
121​
Hamilton
9​
11​
2022​
1845​
109.6%​
36​
West Gambier
17​
11​
113​
Coleraine
5​
15​
1946​
2377​
81.9%​
20​
Semi Final
Penola
5​
15​
1772​
2386​
74.3%​
20​
East Gambier
17​
15​
117​
North Gambier
5​
15​
1459​
2255​
64.7%​
20​
Millicent
17​
8​
110​
Heywood
2​
18​
1374​
2945​
46.7%​
8​
Preliminary Final
Millicent
14​
19​
103​
120​
0​
120​
0​
24656​
24656​
Portland
12​
16​
88​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
D MACZKOWIACK (West Gambier)
76​
76​
East Gambier
13​
15​
93​
Millicent
11​
13​
79​
Western Border 1984WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Imperials
17​
3​
2481​
1834​
135.3%​
68​
South Gambier
28​
21​
189​
Millicent
15​
5​
2306​
1545​
149.3%​
60​
Portland
17​
11​
113​
Hamilton
13​
7​
2300​
1932​
119.0%​
52​
Qual Final
South Gambier
13​
7​
2082​
1952​
106.7%​
52​
Millicent
10​
6​
66​
Portland
11​
9​
1996​
1783​
111.9%​
44​
Hamilton
6​
10​
46​
Coleraine
10​
10​
2082​
1994​
104.4%​
40​
Semi Final
Casterton
8​
12​
1762​
1740​
101.3%​
32​
Hamilton
25​
15​
165​
East Gambier
8​
12​
1878​
1958​
95.9%​
32​
South Gambier
10​
13​
73​
Penola
8​
12​
1692​
2321​
72.9%​
32​
Semi Final
North Gambier
7​
13​
1908​
2219​
86.0%​
28​
Imperials
17​
19​
121​
West Gambier
7​
13​
1686​
2288​
73.7%​
28​
Millicent
12​
7​
79​
Heywood
3​
17​
1928​
2535​
76.1%​
12​
Preliminary Final
Millicent
20​
18​
138​
120​
0​
120​
0​
24101​
24101​
Hamilton
12​
13​
85​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Neil Carracher (Imperials)
106​
106​
Millicent
20​
16​
136​
Neville Osborne (Hey)
101​
Imperials
14​
24​
108​
Western Border 1985WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Portland
17​
2​
2640​
1504​
175.5%​
68​
East Gambier
15​
13​
103​
North Gambier
14​
5​
2061​
1783​
115.6%​
56​
Imperials
12​
21​
93​
Millicent
13​
5​
1​
2230​
1829​
121.9%​
54​
Qual Final
Imperials
13​
6​
2630​
1607​
163.7%​
52​
Millicent
21​
17​
143​
East Gambier
13​
6​
2119​
1666​
127.2%​
52​
North Gambier
9​
7​
61​
South Gambier
10​
9​
1844​
2036​
90.6%​
40​
Semi Final
Hamilton
9​
10​
2057​
1842​
111.7%​
36​
East Gambier
15​
16​
106​
West Gambier
8​
11​
1533​
1919​
79.9%​
32​
North Gambier
11​
11​
77​
Coleraine
6​
12​
1​
1602​
2151​
74.5%​
26​
Semi Final
Penola
6​
13​
1661​
2177​
76.3%​
24​
Portland
26​
11​
167​
Heywood
2​
17​
1486​
2382​
62.4%​
8​
Millicent
15​
14​
104​
Casterton
2​
17​
1510​
2477​
61.0%​
8​
Preliminary Final
East Gambier
23​
15​
153​
113​
0​
113​
2​
23373​
23373​
Millicent
10​
10​
70​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Neil Carracher (Imperials)
100​
100​
Portland
19​
13​
127​
East Gambier
12​
17​
89​
Western Border 1986WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Portland
18​
2​
2888​
1450​
199.2%​
72​
South Gambier
11​
14​
80​
North Gambier
16​
4​
2270​
1722​
131.8%​
64​
Imperials
6​
22​
58​
East Gambier
15​
5​
2615​
1707​
153.2%​
60​
Qual Final
South Gambier
15​
5​
2139​
1771​
120.8%​
60​
East Gambier
21​
10​
136​
Imperials
11​
9​
1978​
1595​
124.0%​
44​
North Gambier
12​
6​
78​
Hamilton
9​
11​
2027​
2045​
99.1%​
36​
Semi Final
Casterton
9​
11​
1757​
1932​
90.9%​
36​
North Gambier
14​
11​
95​
Millicent
8​
12​
1874​
2090​
89.7%​
32​
South Gambier
12​
14​
86​
West Gambier
8​
12​
1880​
2382​
78.9%​
32​
Semi Final
Penola
4​
15​
1​
1847​
2301​
80.3%​
18​
East Gambier
18​
12​
120​
Coleraine
3​
16​
1​
1696​
2306​
73.5%​
14​
Portland
9​
12​
66​
Heywood
3​
17​
1309​
2979​
43.9%​
12​
Preliminary Final
Portland
21​
14​
140​
119​
0​
119​
2​
24280​
24280​
North Gambier
15​
11​
101​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Michael Timms (South Gambier)
113​
113​
Portland
20​
11​
131​
East Gambier
12​
26​
98​
Western Border 1987WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
East Gambier
18​
2​
2571​
1544​
166.5%​
72​
Imperials
18​
16​
124​
Portland
16​
4​
2659​
1674​
158.8%​
64​
South Gambier
12​
12​
84​
North Gambier
15​
5​
2580​
1611​
160.1%​
60​
Qual Final
Imperials
15​
5​
2156​
1404​
153.6%​
60​
Portland
30​
16​
196​
South Gambier
13​
7​
2282​
1775​
128.6%​
52​
North Gambier
11​
22​
88​
Hamilton
13​
7​
2471​
2025​
122.0%​
52​
Semi Final
Casterton
9​
11​
2162​
2166​
99.8%​
36​
North Gambier
20​
16​
136​
Heywood
7​
13​
1723​
2366​
72.8%​
28​
Imperials
15​
11​
101​
Millicent
6​
14​
1796​
2469​
72.7%​
24​
Semi Final
Coleraine
4​
16​
1535​
2396​
64.1%​
16​
East Gambier
19​
5​
119​
Penola
3​
17​
1452​
2679​
54.2%​
12​
Portland
11​
15​
81​
West Gambier
1​
19​
1301​
2579​
50.4%​
4​
Preliminary Final
North Gambier
0​
120​
0​
120​
0​
24688​
24688​
Portland
0​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Trevor Russell (Hamilton)
131​
131​
North Gambier
15​
21​
111​
East Gambier
11​
17​
83​
Western Border 1988WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
East Gambier
13​
2​
4​
2001​
1349​
148.3%​
60​
North Gambier
15​
11​
101​
Millicent
13​
2​
4​
1924​
1325​
145.2%​
60​
Hamilton
14​
10​
94​
Portland
14​
1​
4​
1619​
1360​
119.0%​
60​
Qual Final
North Gambier
12​
2​
4​
1​
1480​
1236​
119.7%​
58​
East Gambier
16​
6​
102​
Hamilton
10​
2​
7​
1756​
1393​
126.1%​
48​
Portland
11​
10​
76​
Imperials
8​
1​
9​
1​
1474​
1536​
96.0%​
38​
Semi Final
Coleraine
5​
2​
11​
1​
1263​
1635​
77.2%​
30​
Portland
15​
16​
106​
South Gambier
6​
1​
12​
1609​
1957​
82.2%​
28​
North Gambier
14​
13​
97​
West Gambier
5​
2​
12​
1467​
1817​
80.7%​
28​
Semi Final
Casterton
4​
2​
12​
1​
1344​
1669​
80.5%​
26​
Millicent
11​
11​
77​
Heywood
3​
2​
14​
1165​
1825​
63.8%​
20​
East Gambier
8​
9​
57​
Preliminary Final
East Gambier
11​
15​
81​
93​
19​
93​
4​
17102​
17102​
Portland
9​
11​
65​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
Trevor Russell (Hamilton)
89​
89​
East Gambier
14​
7​
91​
Millicent
5​
7​
37​
Western Border 1989WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Portland
17​
2​
3​
2807​
1254​
223.8%​
68​
Hamilton
19​
13​
127​
North Gambier
17​
2​
3​
2228​
1332​
167.3%​
68​
Casterton
14​
13​
97​
Heywood
15​
2​
5​
2020​
1787​
113.0%​
60​
Qual Final
Casterton
11​
2​
9​
1855​
1473​
125.9%​
44​
North Gambier
15​
12​
102​
Hamilton
11​
2​
9​
1900​
1854​
102.5%​
44​
Heywood
14​
14​
98​
East Gambier
10​
2​
10​
2366​
1919​
123.3%​
40​
Semi Final
Millicent
9​
2​
11​
1873​
1846​
101.5%​
36​
Hamilton
21​
9​
135​
Imperials
9​
2​
11​
1552​
1693​
91.7%​
36​
Heywood
5​
16​
46​
South Gambier
4​
2​
16​
1479​
2495​
59.3%​
16​
Semi Final
Coleraine
4​
2​
16​
1480​
2640​
56.1%​
16​
Portland
19​
9​
123​
West Gambier
3​
2​
17​
1235​
2502​
49.4%​
12​
North Gambier
3​
6​
24​
Preliminary Final
North Gambier
20​
21​
141​
110​
22​
110​
0​
20795​
20795​
Hamilton
12​
12​
84​
Leading GoalkickersGrand Final
T OTTER (Portland)
104​
104​
North Gambier
16​
7​
103​
Portland
15​
8​
98​
 
I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF
Kowree Naracoote 1982WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Border Districts
13​
3​
1909​
1440​
132.6%​
52​
Lucindale
15​
10​
100​
Padthaway
13​
3​
2010​
1633​
123.1%​
52​
Naracoorte
24​
16​
160​
Kingston
12​
4​
2069​
1260​
164.2%​
48​
Qual Final
Lucindale
12​
4​
1870​
1376​
135.9%​
48​
Padthaway
19​
13​
127​
Naracoorte
6​
10​
1819​
1987​
91.5%​
24​
Kingston
16​
7​
103​
Edenhope
3​
13​
1566​
1902​
82.3%​
12​
Semi Final
Kybybolite
3​
13​
1562​
2092​
74.7%​
12​
Kingston
26​
16​
172​
Apsley
2​
14​
1274​
2381​
53.5%​
8​
Naracoorte
11​
10​
76​
Semi Final
Border Districts
19​
13​
127​
Padthaway
18​
11​
119​
Preliminary Final
64​
0​
64​
0​
14079​
14071​
Kingston
20​
10​
130​
Leading GoalkickersPadthaway
14​
13​
97​
Grand Final
Kingston
14​
17​
101​
Border Districts
13​
15​
93​
Kowree Naracoote 1983WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Kingston
16​
1​
2412​
1067​
226.1%​
64​
Edenhope
13​
8​
86​
Border Districts
11​
6​
1963​
1513​
129.7%​
44​
Kybybolite
14​
14​
98​
Padthaway
11​
6​
2166​
1678​
129.1%​
44​
Qual Final
Edenhope
10​
7​
2162​
1572​
137.5%​
40​
Border Districts
12​
10​
82​
Kybybolite
8​
9​
2048​
1758​
116.5%​
32​
Padthaway
13​
13​
91​
Lucindale
8​
9​
1671​
1759​
95.0%​
32​
Semi Final
Naracoorte
3​
14​
1689​
2408​
70.1%​
12​
Kybybolite
11​
9​
75​
Apsley
1​
16​
824​
3171​
26.0%​
4​
Border Districts
7​
11​
53​
Semi Final
Padthaway
16​
15​
111​
Kingston
14​
13​
97​
Preliminary Final
68​
0​
68​
0​
14935​
14926​
Kingston
22​
12​
144​
Leading GoalkickersKybybolite
9​
10​
64​
Robbie Scott (Kingston)
126​
13​
Grand Final
Kingston
13​
19​
97​
Padthaway
13​
14​
92​
Kowree Naracoote 1984WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Kingston
14​
2​
1928​
1051​
183.4%​
56​
Edenhope
13​
9​
87​
Apsley
12​
4​
1718​
1398​
122.9%​
48​
Lucindale
18​
18​
126​
Border Districts
10​
6​
1566​
1275​
122.8%​
40​
Qual Final
Edenhope
9​
7​
1672​
1455​
114.9%​
36​
Border Districts
13​
10​
88​
Lucindale
9​
7​
1542​
1395​
110.5%​
36​
Apsley
12​
7​
79​
Padthaway
5​
11​
1453​
1836​
79.1%​
20​
Semi Final
Naracoorte
3​
13​
1340​
2019​
66.4%​
12​
Apsley
18​
28​
136​
Kybybolite
2​
14​
1148​
1848​
62.1%​
8​
Lucindale
12​
10​
82​
Semi Final
Kingston
24​
18​
162​
Border Districts
6​
10​
46​
Preliminary Final
64​
0​
64​
0​
12367​
12277​
Border Districts
22​
19​
151​
Leading GoalkickersApsley
13​
14​
92​
Peter Friedrichs (Lucindale)Grand Final
Kingston
18​
22​
130​
Border Districts
4​
2​
26​
Kowree Naracoote 1985WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Apsley
16​
2​
2726​
1375​
198.3%​
64​
0​
Kingston
16​
2​
2172​
1201​
180.8%​
64​
0​
Edenhope
11​
7​
2077​
1735​
119.7%​
44​
Border Districts
11​
7​
1685​
1642​
102.6%​
44​
0​
Kybybolite
7​
11​
1434​
2138​
67.1%​
28​
0​
Lucindale
4​
14​
1486​
1978​
75.1%​
16​
Semi Final
Naracoorte
4​
14​
1513​
2193​
69.0%​
16​
Edenhope
13​
10​
88​
Padthaway
3​
15​
1401​
2232​
62.8%​
12​
Border Districts
17​
12​
114​
Semi Final
Apsley
18​
6​
114​
Kingston
15​
5​
95​
Preliminary Final
72​
0​
72​
0​
14494​
14494​
Kingston
16​
15​
111​
Leading GoalkickersBorder Districts
8​
13​
61​
Grand Final
Apsley
17​
11​
113​
Kingston
9​
12​
66​
Kowree Naracoote 1986WBLDFORAGAINST%PTSElim Final
Edenhope
15​
3​
2244​
1535​
146.2%​
60​
0​
Apsley
15​
3​
2073​
1541​
134.5%​
60​
0​
Border Districts
11​
7​
1757​
1429​
123.0%​
44​
Kingston
9​
9​
1803​
1762​
102.3%​
36​
0​
Padthaway
7​
11​
1810​
1958​
92.4%​
28​
0​
Kybybolite
6​
12​
1483​
1851​
80.1%​
24​
Semi Final
Lucindale
5​
13​
1390​
1945​
71.5%​
20​
Border Districts
9​
8​
62​
Naracoorte
4​
14​
1282​
1914​
67.0%​
16​
Kingston
8​
11​
59​
Semi Final
Edenhope
15​
13​
103​
Apsley
8​
12​
60​
Preliminary Final
72​
0​
72​
0​
13842​
13935​
Apsley
13​
11​
89​
Leading GoalkickersBorder Districts
10​
11​
71​
Robbie Scott (Kingston)
100​
6​
Grand Final
Edenhope
16​
11​
107​
Apsley
14​
6​
90​
 
My VFL Reserves project is now complete. All scores have been found, and ladders have been created from the results. From the mid 30s onwards, all ladder positions agree with sources such as the Football Record and The Age. There are some minor discrepancies before this, but number of wins draws and losses are correct. Official records do not show percentages early, and it would seem any side outside of the Final Four were not always named in correct sequence.

Most games have been given where they played with a very small few exceptions during the Second World War.

I have also included quarter by quarter scores where known, and goalkickers - 7 goals or more.

Enjoy - any constructive feedback is welcome.
Outstanding work, well done! Tremendous skill.

May I make a possible change to the below. My records show it was Frank Bourke Snr who kicked 13 goals, not O'Rourke.
Richmond
4​
-6
13​
-14
24​
-18
37​
-302528/16/47Richmond - O'Rourke - 13 goals
 
Outstanding work, well done! Tremendous skill.

May I make a possible change to the below. My records show it was Frank Bourke Snr who kicked 13 goals, not O'Rourke.
Richmond
4​
-6
13​
-14
24​
-18
37​
-302528/16/47Richmond - O'Rourke - 13 goals
Very happy to change this one. Sporting globe definitely says Bourke. I think I need to have my eyes checked!
 
My VFL Reserves project is now complete. All scores have been found, and ladders have been created from the results. From the mid 30s onwards, all ladder positions agree with sources such as the Football Record and The Age. There are some minor discrepancies before this, but number of wins draws and losses are correct. Official records do not show percentages early, and it would seem any side outside of the Final Four were not always named in correct sequence.

Most games have been given where they played with a very small few exceptions during the Second World War.

I have also included quarter by quarter scores where known, and goalkickers - 7 goals or more.

Enjoy - any constructive feedback is welcome.
Hi Bassoon

This is such amazing work! I hope you don't mind but I've incorporated an earlier version of the spreadsheet you shared to my personal database / site. The only two season I've left out were the 1966 and 1971 seasons. This is because in 1966, four games involving Richmond had the results overturned, and similarly in 1971, four games involving Fitzroy had the results overturned, and for both of these cases, I could not identify the specific games to which these applied. Would you happen to have come across which specific games these may have been?

Also, for the game between University and St Kilda on 15/05/1920, when I was looking through Trove I could only find at most the 3QT score, which happened to be 10.9 - 1.10. This happens to be the same FT score that you've got in your spreadsheet. I was curious whether you managed to find an article where the FT score was stated?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Hi Bassoon

This is such amazing work! I hope you don't mind but I've incorporated an earlier version of the spreadsheet you shared to my personal database / site. The only two season I've left out were the 1966 and 1971 seasons. This is because in 1966, four games involving Richmond had the results overturned, and similarly in 1971, four games involving Fitzroy had the results overturned, and for both of these cases, I could not identify the specific games to which these applied. Would you happen to have come across which specific games these may have been?

Also, for the game between University and St Kilda on 15/05/1920, when I was looking through Trove I could only find at most the 3QT score, which happened to be 10.9 - 1.10. This happens to be the same FT score that you've got in your spreadsheet. I was curious whether you managed to find an article where the FT score was stated?

Thanks in advance!
Hi McPang

Thanks for the kind words - please feel free to use any of my stuff.

There were three games in 1966 where Richmond lost Premiership points over Frank Laughlin not being registered. Checking the reserves teams, Laughlin was named in the Round 12 and Round 15 matches. Unfortunately, the Age did not have reserves games teams for Round 13 (v Footscray), though when both sides met earlier in the year (Round 2), Laughlin was named as an emergency, so I discounted this game.

For 1971, I'm confident of the teams that Fitzroy lost points against, but why I picked the first lot of matches (Rounds 6 to 9) rather than the games later in the year, I have no idea. The only evidence I can find of the points being deducted is from the First Semi Final Football Record (The Age has Fitzroy with 9 wins in Round 22). As St.Kilda beat Fitzroy later in the year, that's the only reason I probably picked the early Rounds.

I have no excuse for the Uni St.Kilda game. No Age or Argus scores, so, somehow, I missed that this was a three quarter score, rather than the full time score. Luckily, I don't think it would make any difference to the Finals Ladders.

Thanks for the above - the 1920 score is possibly lost to History, but I'll do some work at the State Library later in the year, to see if there is any mention in the Sun about 1966 and 1971.
 
Hi McPang

Thanks for the kind words - please feel free to use any of my stuff.

There were three games in 1966 where Richmond lost Premiership points over Frank Laughlin not being registered. Checking the reserves teams, Laughlin was named in the Round 12 and Round 15 matches. Unfortunately, the Age did not have reserves games teams for Round 13 (v Footscray), though when both sides met earlier in the year (Round 2), Laughlin was named as an emergency, so I discounted this game.

For 1971, I'm confident of the teams that Fitzroy lost points against, but why I picked the first lot of matches (Rounds 6 to 9) rather than the games later in the year, I have no idea. The only evidence I can find of the points being deducted is from the First Semi Final Football Record (The Age has Fitzroy with 9 wins in Round 22). As St.Kilda beat Fitzroy later in the year, that's the only reason I probably picked the early Rounds.

I have no excuse for the Uni St.Kilda game. No Age or Argus scores, so, somehow, I missed that this was a three quarter score, rather than the full time score. Luckily, I don't think it would make any difference to the Finals Ladders.

Thanks for the above - the 1920 score is possibly lost to History, but I'll do some work at the State Library later in the year, to see if there is any mention in the Sun about 1966 and 1971.
The Argus - Tuesday May 18 1920 Page 10 also shows the same results as The Herald, so it is quite possible that this is the Full Time Score.
 
Thanks a ton for your replies Bassoon - much appreciated! :)

I do that The Argus score is indeed the full time score (and not just copied from The Herald). I'll have to see if I can find anything further. If only it were clear who the historian was at the Melbourne University Football Club - perhaps old historian/secretary records might have something worth noting. It would be sad for it to be lost to history.

Out of curiosity, have you ever been interested in doing something similar for other leagues? I'm currently working on compiling VFA reserves games (1928-2017), SANFL reserves games (1919-present), WAFL reserves games (1925-present) and TFL/TSL reserves games (1928-present). It's still in its infancy, as I've only done the first year or two of each to get started with a baseline for which teams to add.

As for the disqualified games notes you've provided, I've noted them and I'll let you know if I come across anything!

rbartlett - If I recall correctly, you released a podcast episode interviewing Frank Loughran that I listened to a while back. Is there any chance you ever came across which reserves games he played in 1966 for RFC?
 
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I can assist with the WAFL B Grade/ Reserves scores. The B grade began in 1921 and I have score and venues for each season until 1940, then when it resumed in 1946 as a Colts competitiin.
 
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