Research Data gaps + big projects

[RedmanWasHere]

1911-15 also done.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

1911-15 also done.

Same with 1918-21.

1916-17 would've been cancelled due to WW1.

 

[carloss]

Off to Adelaide next weekend, with the obligatory state library session locked in, as well as taking in a SANFL match.

Filling in some gaps for Kowree-Naracoorte, Lameroo, Tatiara and Western Border from the 1980s while I am there.

What info are you after for the Kowree-Naracoorte and Western Border from the 1980s?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Same with 1918-21.

1916-17 would've been cancelled due to WW1.

1922-26 likewise.
Almost have 1927 done.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

What info are you after for the Kowree-Naracoorte and Western Border from the 1980s?

I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF

 

[carloss]

I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF

I can help, have you got an email address?

 

[MortlockWatcher]

It won't let me send you a message.

admin@footybooks.net

 

[Todman]

I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

WBFL
1980 - QF, PF, GF
1981 - QF, 1SF
1982 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1983 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1984 - EF, QF, 2SF, PF
1985 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1986 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF
1987 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1988 - QF, 2SF, PF
1989 - EF, QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF, GF

Western Border 1980

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

North Gambier

16​

4​

2292​

1590​

144.2%​

64​

Imperials

13​

17​

95​

East Gambier

14​

6​

2382​

2077​

114.7%​

56​

Hamilton

13​

13​

91​

Penola

14​

6​

2040​

1795​

113.6%​

56​

Qual Final

Hamilton

13​

7​

2339​

1796​

130.2%​

52​

Penola

11​

25​

91​

Imperials

13​

7​

2150​

1726​

124.6%​

52​

East Gambier

11​

17​

83​

Coleraine

12​

8​

2206​

2067​

106.7%​

48​

Semi Final

South Gambier

11​

9​

1901​

1701​

111.8%​

44​

Imperials

23​

11​

149​

Portland

10​

9​

1​

2118​

2007​

105.5%​

42​

East Gambier

20​

13​

133​

West Gambier

7​

13​

1892​

2118​

89.3%​

28​

Semi Final

Casterton

4​

16​

1808​

2441​

74.1%​

16​

North Gambier

17​

22​

124​

Millicent

3​

17​

1578​

2298​

68.7%​

12​

Penola

8​

12​

60​

Heywood

2​

17​

1​

1584​

2674​

59.2%​

10​

Preliminary Final

Imperials

0​

119​

0​

119​

2​

24290​

24290​

Penola

0​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Tony Russell (Hamilton)

101​

101​

Imperials

15​

15​

105​

North Gambier

12​

15​

87​

Western Border 1981

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Hamilton

14​

4​

1960​

1554​

126.1%​

56​

Portland

14​

8​

92​

South Gambier

13​

5​

1942​

1397​

139.0%​

52​

Imperials

6​

14​

50​

East Gambier

12​

6​

2146​

1651​

130.0%​

48​

Qual Final

Portland

11​

7​

2088​

1645​

126.9%​

44​

South Gambier

19​

20​

134​

Imperials

11​

7​

1921​

1580​

121.6%​

44​

East Gambier

13​

12​

90​

Millicent

11​

7​

1674​

1633​

102.5%​

44​

Semi Final

Casterton

10​

8​

1868​

1764​

105.9%​

40​

Portland

19​

24​

138​

Coleraine

9​

9​

1741​

1929​

90.3%​

36​

East Gambier

12​

10​

82​

North Gambier

8​

10​

1638​

1833​

89.4%​

32​

Semi Final

Penola

4​

13​

1​

1482​

1946​

76.2%​

18​

South Gambier

14​

12​

96​

Heywood

2​

15​

1​

1306​

2265​

57.7%​

10​

Hamilton

12​

6​

78​

West Gambier

2​

16​

1413​

1982​

71.3%​

8​

Preliminary Final

Hamilton

17​

14​

116​

107​

0​

107​

2​

21179​

21179​

Portland

11​

17​

83​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final Replay

Grand Final

Neville Osborne (Imperials)

84​

84​

Hamilton

15​

8​

98​

Hamilton

12​

6​

78​

S Gambier

12​

8​

80​

South Gambier

12​

6​

78​

Western Border 1982

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

East Gambier

17​

3​

2975​

1826​

162.9%​

68​

Imperials

16​

15​

111​

South Gambier

17​

3​

2337​

1481​

157.8%​

68​

Coleraine

11​

11​

77​

Portland

15​

5​

2367​

1831​

129.3%​

60​

Qual Final

Imperials

14​

6​

2504​

1960​

127.8%​

56​

South Gambier

11​

10​

76​

Coleraine

13​

7​

2268​

2111​

107.4%​

52​

Portland

8​

26​

74​

West Gambier

12​

8​

2191​

2022​

108.4%​

48​

Semi Final

Hamilton

10​

10​

2134​

2121​

100.6%​

40​

Portland

21​

20​

146​

North Gambier

7​

13​

1890​

2214​

85.4%​

28​

Imperials

13​

7​

85​

Heywood

6​

14​

1907​

2637​

72.3%​

24​

Semi Final

Penola

4​

16​

1912​

2501​

76.4%​

16​

East Gambier

17​

17​

119​

Millicent

3​

17​

1892​

2879​

65.7%​

12​

South Gambier

13​

13​

91​

Casterton

2​

18​

1881​

2675​

70.3%​

8​

Preliminary Final

South Gambier

21​

23​

149​

120​

0​

120​

0​

26258​

26258​

Portland

13​

13​

91​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Robbie Lawson ((East Gambier)

136​

136​

East Gambier

17​

21​

123​

Neville Osborne (Imp)

95​

5​

South Gambier

12​

14​

86​

John Phillips (Port)

104​

Western Border 1983

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

East Gambier

18​

2​

2653​

1846​

143.7%​

72​

West Gambier

10​

17​

77​

Millicent

16​

4​

2564​

1646​

155.8%​

64​

Casterton

8​

17​

65​

Portland

16​

4​

2663​

1741​

153.0%​

64​

Qual Final

West Gambier

13​

7​

2042​

1805​

113.1%​

52​

Millicent

11​

18​

84​

Casterton

11​

9​

1931​

1916​

100.8%​

44​

Portland

8​

14​

62​

Imperials

10​

10​

2176​

1966​

110.7%​

40​

Semi Final

South Gambier

10​

10​

2054​

1928​

106.5%​

40​

Portland

17​

19​

121​

Hamilton

9​

11​

2022​

1845​

109.6%​

36​

West Gambier

17​

11​

113​

Coleraine

5​

15​

1946​

2377​

81.9%​

20​

Semi Final

Penola

5​

15​

1772​

2386​

74.3%​

20​

East Gambier

17​

15​

117​

North Gambier

5​

15​

1459​

2255​

64.7%​

20​

Millicent

17​

8​

110​

Heywood

2​

18​

1374​

2945​

46.7%​

8​

Preliminary Final

Millicent

14​

19​

103​

120​

0​

120​

0​

24656​

24656​

Portland

12​

16​

88​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

D MACZKOWIACK (West Gambier)

76​

76​

East Gambier

13​

15​

93​

Millicent

11​

13​

79​

Western Border 1984

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Imperials

17​

3​

2481​

1834​

135.3%​

68​

South Gambier

28​

21​

189​

Millicent

15​

5​

2306​

1545​

149.3%​

60​

Portland

17​

11​

113​

Hamilton

13​

7​

2300​

1932​

119.0%​

52​

Qual Final

South Gambier

13​

7​

2082​

1952​

106.7%​

52​

Millicent

10​

6​

66​

Portland

11​

9​

1996​

1783​

111.9%​

44​

Hamilton

6​

10​

46​

Coleraine

10​

10​

2082​

1994​

104.4%​

40​

Semi Final

Casterton

8​

12​

1762​

1740​

101.3%​

32​

Hamilton

25​

15​

165​

East Gambier

8​

12​

1878​

1958​

95.9%​

32​

South Gambier

10​

13​

73​

Penola

8​

12​

1692​

2321​

72.9%​

32​

Semi Final

North Gambier

7​

13​

1908​

2219​

86.0%​

28​

Imperials

17​

19​

121​

West Gambier

7​

13​

1686​

2288​

73.7%​

28​

Millicent

12​

7​

79​

Heywood

3​

17​

1928​

2535​

76.1%​

12​

Preliminary Final

Millicent

20​

18​

138​

120​

0​

120​

0​

24101​

24101​

Hamilton

12​

13​

85​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Neil Carracher (Imperials)

106​

106​

Millicent

20​

16​

136​

Neville Osborne (Hey)

101​

Imperials

14​

24​

108​

Western Border 1985

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Portland

17​

2​

2640​

1504​

175.5%​

68​

East Gambier

15​

13​

103​

North Gambier

14​

5​

2061​

1783​

115.6%​

56​

Imperials

12​

21​

93​

Millicent

13​

5​

1​

2230​

1829​

121.9%​

54​

Qual Final

Imperials

13​

6​

2630​

1607​

163.7%​

52​

Millicent

21​

17​

143​

East Gambier

13​

6​

2119​

1666​

127.2%​

52​

North Gambier

9​

7​

61​

South Gambier

10​

9​

1844​

2036​

90.6%​

40​

Semi Final

Hamilton

9​

10​

2057​

1842​

111.7%​

36​

East Gambier

15​

16​

106​

West Gambier

8​

11​

1533​

1919​

79.9%​

32​

North Gambier

11​

11​

77​

Coleraine

6​

12​

1​

1602​

2151​

74.5%​

26​

Semi Final

Penola

6​

13​

1661​

2177​

76.3%​

24​

Portland

26​

11​

167​

Heywood

2​

17​

1486​

2382​

62.4%​

8​

Millicent

15​

14​

104​

Casterton

2​

17​

1510​

2477​

61.0%​

8​

Preliminary Final

East Gambier

23​

15​

153​

113​

0​

113​

2​

23373​

23373​

Millicent

10​

10​

70​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Neil Carracher (Imperials)

100​

100​

Portland

19​

13​

127​

East Gambier

12​

17​

89​

Western Border 1986

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Portland

18​

2​

2888​

1450​

199.2%​

72​

South Gambier

11​

14​

80​

North Gambier

16​

4​

2270​

1722​

131.8%​

64​

Imperials

6​

22​

58​

East Gambier

15​

5​

2615​

1707​

153.2%​

60​

Qual Final

South Gambier

15​

5​

2139​

1771​

120.8%​

60​

East Gambier

21​

10​

136​

Imperials

11​

9​

1978​

1595​

124.0%​

44​

North Gambier

12​

6​

78​

Hamilton

9​

11​

2027​

2045​

99.1%​

36​

Semi Final

Casterton

9​

11​

1757​

1932​

90.9%​

36​

North Gambier

14​

11​

95​

Millicent

8​

12​

1874​

2090​

89.7%​

32​

South Gambier

12​

14​

86​

West Gambier

8​

12​

1880​

2382​

78.9%​

32​

Semi Final

Penola

4​

15​

1​

1847​

2301​

80.3%​

18​

East Gambier

18​

12​

120​

Coleraine

3​

16​

1​

1696​

2306​

73.5%​

14​

Portland

9​

12​

66​

Heywood

3​

17​

1309​

2979​

43.9%​

12​

Preliminary Final

Portland

21​

14​

140​

119​

0​

119​

2​

24280​

24280​

North Gambier

15​

11​

101​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Michael Timms (South Gambier)

113​

113​

Portland

20​

11​

131​

East Gambier

12​

26​

98​

Western Border 1987

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

East Gambier

18​

2​

2571​

1544​

166.5%​

72​

Imperials

18​

16​

124​

Portland

16​

4​

2659​

1674​

158.8%​

64​

South Gambier

12​

12​

84​

North Gambier

15​

5​

2580​

1611​

160.1%​

60​

Qual Final

Imperials

15​

5​

2156​

1404​

153.6%​

60​

Portland

30​

16​

196​

South Gambier

13​

7​

2282​

1775​

128.6%​

52​

North Gambier

11​

22​

88​

Hamilton

13​

7​

2471​

2025​

122.0%​

52​

Semi Final

Casterton

9​

11​

2162​

2166​

99.8%​

36​

North Gambier

20​

16​

136​

Heywood

7​

13​

1723​

2366​

72.8%​

28​

Imperials

15​

11​

101​

Millicent

6​

14​

1796​

2469​

72.7%​

24​

Semi Final

Coleraine

4​

16​

1535​

2396​

64.1%​

16​

East Gambier

19​

5​

119​

Penola

3​

17​

1452​

2679​

54.2%​

12​

Portland

11​

15​

81​

West Gambier

1​

19​

1301​

2579​

50.4%​

4​

Preliminary Final

North Gambier

0​

120​

0​

120​

0​

24688​

24688​

Portland

0​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Trevor Russell (Hamilton)

131​

131​

North Gambier

15​

21​

111​

East Gambier

11​

17​

83​

Western Border 1988

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

East Gambier

13​

2​

4​

2001​

1349​

148.3%​

60​

North Gambier

15​

11​

101​

Millicent

13​

2​

4​

1924​

1325​

145.2%​

60​

Hamilton

14​

10​

94​

Portland

14​

1​

4​

1619​

1360​

119.0%​

60​

Qual Final

North Gambier

12​

2​

4​

1​

1480​

1236​

119.7%​

58​

East Gambier

16​

6​

102​

Hamilton

10​

2​

7​

1756​

1393​

126.1%​

48​

Portland

11​

10​

76​

Imperials

8​

1​

9​

1​

1474​

1536​

96.0%​

38​

Semi Final

Coleraine

5​

2​

11​

1​

1263​

1635​

77.2%​

30​

Portland

15​

16​

106​

South Gambier

6​

1​

12​

1609​

1957​

82.2%​

28​

North Gambier

14​

13​

97​

West Gambier

5​

2​

12​

1467​

1817​

80.7%​

28​

Semi Final

Casterton

4​

2​

12​

1​

1344​

1669​

80.5%​

26​

Millicent

11​

11​

77​

Heywood

3​

2​

14​

1165​

1825​

63.8%​

20​

East Gambier

8​

9​

57​

Preliminary Final

East Gambier

11​

15​

81​

93​

19​

93​

4​

17102​

17102​

Portland

9​

11​

65​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

Trevor Russell (Hamilton)

89​

89​

East Gambier

14​

7​

91​

Millicent

5​

7​

37​

Western Border 1989

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Portland

17​

2​

3​

2807​

1254​

223.8%​

68​

Hamilton

19​

13​

127​

North Gambier

17​

2​

3​

2228​

1332​

167.3%​

68​

Casterton

14​

13​

97​

Heywood

15​

2​

5​

2020​

1787​

113.0%​

60​

Qual Final

Casterton

11​

2​

9​

1855​

1473​

125.9%​

44​

North Gambier

15​

12​

102​

Hamilton

11​

2​

9​

1900​

1854​

102.5%​

44​

Heywood

14​

14​

98​

East Gambier

10​

2​

10​

2366​

1919​

123.3%​

40​

Semi Final

Millicent

9​

2​

11​

1873​

1846​

101.5%​

36​

Hamilton

21​

9​

135​

Imperials

9​

2​

11​

1552​

1693​

91.7%​

36​

Heywood

5​

16​

46​

South Gambier

4​

2​

16​

1479​

2495​

59.3%​

16​

Semi Final

Coleraine

4​

2​

16​

1480​

2640​

56.1%​

16​

Portland

19​

9​

123​

West Gambier

3​

2​

17​

1235​

2502​

49.4%​

12​

North Gambier

3​

6​

24​

Preliminary Final

North Gambier

20​

21​

141​

110​

22​

110​

0​

20795​

20795​

Hamilton

12​

12​

84​

Leading Goalkickers

Grand Final

T OTTER (Portland)

104​

104​

North Gambier

16​

7​

103​

Portland

15​

8​

98​

 

[Todman]

I need some finals results, mainly because the matches seem to have been played on Sundays and I only have access to the Monday Sun and Age which didn't include Sunday results). Most of the WBFL ones seemed to have been missed by the papers.

My needs are:

KNFL
1980 - QF, 1SF, 2SF, PF
1981 - QF, 2SF
1982 - QF, 2SF
1983 - QF, 2SF
1984 - 2SF (and the EF & QF if they were played)
1986 - GF

Kowree Naracoote 1982

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Border Districts

13​

3​

1909​

1440​

132.6%​

52​

Lucindale

15​

10​

100​

Padthaway

13​

3​

2010​

1633​

123.1%​

52​

Naracoorte

24​

16​

160​

Kingston

12​

4​

2069​

1260​

164.2%​

48​

Qual Final

Lucindale

12​

4​

1870​

1376​

135.9%​

48​

Padthaway

19​

13​

127​

Naracoorte

6​

10​

1819​

1987​

91.5%​

24​

Kingston

16​

7​

103​

Edenhope

3​

13​

1566​

1902​

82.3%​

12​

Semi Final

Kybybolite

3​

13​

1562​

2092​

74.7%​

12​

Kingston

26​

16​

172​

Apsley

2​

14​

1274​

2381​

53.5%​

8​

Naracoorte

11​

10​

76​

Semi Final

Border Districts

19​

13​

127​

Padthaway

18​

11​

119​

Preliminary Final

64​

0​

64​

0​

14079​

14071​

Kingston

20​

10​

130​

Leading Goalkickers

Padthaway

14​

13​

97​

Grand Final

Kingston

14​

17​

101​

Border Districts

13​

15​

93​

Kowree Naracoote 1983

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Kingston

16​

1​

2412​

1067​

226.1%​

64​

Edenhope

13​

8​

86​

Border Districts

11​

6​

1963​

1513​

129.7%​

44​

Kybybolite

14​

14​

98​

Padthaway

11​

6​

2166​

1678​

129.1%​

44​

Qual Final

Edenhope

10​

7​

2162​

1572​

137.5%​

40​

Border Districts

12​

10​

82​

Kybybolite

8​

9​

2048​

1758​

116.5%​

32​

Padthaway

13​

13​

91​

Lucindale

8​

9​

1671​

1759​

95.0%​

32​

Semi Final

Naracoorte

3​

14​

1689​

2408​

70.1%​

12​

Kybybolite

11​

9​

75​

Apsley

1​

16​

824​

3171​

26.0%​

4​

Border Districts

7​

11​

53​

Semi Final

Padthaway

16​

15​

111​

Kingston

14​

13​

97​

Preliminary Final

68​

0​

68​

0​

14935​

14926​

Kingston

22​

12​

144​

Leading Goalkickers

Kybybolite

9​

10​

64​

Robbie Scott (Kingston)

126​

13​

Grand Final

Kingston

13​

19​

97​

Padthaway

13​

14​

92​

Kowree Naracoote 1984

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Kingston

14​

2​

1928​

1051​

183.4%​

56​

Edenhope

13​

9​

87​

Apsley

12​

4​

1718​

1398​

122.9%​

48​

Lucindale

18​

18​

126​

Border Districts

10​

6​

1566​

1275​

122.8%​

40​

Qual Final

Edenhope

9​

7​

1672​

1455​

114.9%​

36​

Border Districts

13​

10​

88​

Lucindale

9​

7​

1542​

1395​

110.5%​

36​

Apsley

12​

7​

79​

Padthaway

5​

11​

1453​

1836​

79.1%​

20​

Semi Final

Naracoorte

3​

13​

1340​

2019​

66.4%​

12​

Apsley

18​

28​

136​

Kybybolite

2​

14​

1148​

1848​

62.1%​

8​

Lucindale

12​

10​

82​

Semi Final

Kingston

24​

18​

162​

Border Districts

6​

10​

46​

Preliminary Final

64​

0​

64​

0​

12367​

12277​

Border Districts

22​

19​

151​

Leading Goalkickers

Apsley

13​

14​

92​

Peter Friedrichs (Lucindale)

Grand Final

Kingston

18​

22​

130​

Border Districts

4​

2​

26​

Kowree Naracoote 1985

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Apsley

16​

2​

2726​

1375​

198.3%​

64​

0​

Kingston

16​

2​

2172​

1201​

180.8%​

64​

0​

Edenhope

11​

7​

2077​

1735​

119.7%​

44​

Border Districts

11​

7​

1685​

1642​

102.6%​

44​

0​

Kybybolite

7​

11​

1434​

2138​

67.1%​

28​

0​

Lucindale

4​

14​

1486​

1978​

75.1%​

16​

Semi Final

Naracoorte

4​

14​

1513​

2193​

69.0%​

16​

Edenhope

13​

10​

88​

Padthaway

3​

15​

1401​

2232​

62.8%​

12​

Border Districts

17​

12​

114​

Semi Final

Apsley

18​

6​

114​

Kingston

15​

5​

95​

Preliminary Final

72​

0​

72​

0​

14494​

14494​

Kingston

16​

15​

111​

Leading Goalkickers

Border Districts

8​

13​

61​

Grand Final

Apsley

17​

11​

113​

Kingston

9​

12​

66​

Kowree Naracoote 1986

W

B

L

D

FOR

AGAINST

%

PTS

Elim Final

Edenhope

15​

3​

2244​

1535​

146.2%​

60​

0​

Apsley

15​

3​

2073​

1541​

134.5%​

60​

0​

Border Districts

11​

7​

1757​

1429​

123.0%​

44​

Kingston

9​

9​

1803​

1762​

102.3%​

36​

0​

Padthaway

7​

11​

1810​

1958​

92.4%​

28​

0​

Kybybolite

6​

12​

1483​

1851​

80.1%​

24​

Semi Final

Lucindale

5​

13​

1390​

1945​

71.5%​

20​

Border Districts

9​

8​

62​

Naracoorte

4​

14​

1282​

1914​

67.0%​

16​

Kingston

8​

11​

59​

Semi Final

Edenhope

15​

13​

103​

Apsley

8​

12​

60​

Preliminary Final

72​

0​

72​

0​

13842​

13935​

Apsley

13​

11​

89​

Leading Goalkickers

Border Districts

10​

11​

71​

Robbie Scott (Kingston)

100​

6​

Grand Final

Edenhope

16​

11​

107​

Apsley

14​

6​

90​

 

[rbartlett]

My VFL Reserves project is now complete. All scores have been found, and ladders have been created from the results. From the mid 30s onwards, all ladder positions agree with sources such as the Football Record and The Age. There are some minor discrepancies before this, but number of wins draws and losses are correct. Official records do not show percentages early, and it would seem any side outside of the Final Four were not always named in correct sequence.

Most games have been given where they played with a very small few exceptions during the Second World War.

I have also included quarter by quarter scores where known, and goalkickers - 7 goals or more.

Enjoy - any constructive feedback is welcome.

Outstanding work, well done! Tremendous skill.

May I make a possible change to the below. My records show it was Frank Bourke Snr who kicked 13 goals, not O'Rourke.

Richmond

4​

-

6

13​

-

14

24​

-

18

37​

-

30

252

8/16/47

Richmond - O'Rourke - 13 goals

 

[Bassoon]

Outstanding work, well done! Tremendous skill.

May I make a possible change to the below. My records show it was Frank Bourke Snr who kicked 13 goals, not O'Rourke.

Richmond

4​

-

6

13​

-

14

24​

-

18

37​

-

30

252

8/16/47

Richmond - O'Rourke - 13 goals

Very happy to change this one. Sporting globe definitely says Bourke. I think I need to have my eyes checked!

 

[RedmanWasHere]

1922-26 likewise.
Almost have 1927 done.

1927-41 now done.

 

[McPang]

My VFL Reserves project is now complete. All scores have been found, and ladders have been created from the results. From the mid 30s onwards, all ladder positions agree with sources such as the Football Record and The Age. There are some minor discrepancies before this, but number of wins draws and losses are correct. Official records do not show percentages early, and it would seem any side outside of the Final Four were not always named in correct sequence.

Most games have been given where they played with a very small few exceptions during the Second World War.

I have also included quarter by quarter scores where known, and goalkickers - 7 goals or more.

Enjoy - any constructive feedback is welcome.

Hi Bassoon

This is such amazing work! I hope you don't mind but I've incorporated an earlier version of the spreadsheet you shared to my personal database / site. The only two season I've left out were the 1966 and 1971 seasons. This is because in 1966, four games involving Richmond had the results overturned, and similarly in 1971, four games involving Fitzroy had the results overturned, and for both of these cases, I could not identify the specific games to which these applied. Would you happen to have come across which specific games these may have been?

Also, for the game between University and St Kilda on 15/05/1920, when I was looking through Trove I could only find at most the 3QT score, which happened to be 10.9 - 1.10. This happens to be the same FT score that you've got in your spreadsheet. I was curious whether you managed to find an article where the FT score was stated?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Bassoon]

Hi Bassoon

This is such amazing work! I hope you don't mind but I've incorporated an earlier version of the spreadsheet you shared to my personal database / site. The only two season I've left out were the 1966 and 1971 seasons. This is because in 1966, four games involving Richmond had the results overturned, and similarly in 1971, four games involving Fitzroy had the results overturned, and for both of these cases, I could not identify the specific games to which these applied. Would you happen to have come across which specific games these may have been?

Also, for the game between University and St Kilda on 15/05/1920, when I was looking through Trove I could only find at most the 3QT score, which happened to be 10.9 - 1.10. This happens to be the same FT score that you've got in your spreadsheet. I was curious whether you managed to find an article where the FT score was stated?

Thanks in advance!

Hi McPang

Thanks for the kind words - please feel free to use any of my stuff.

There were three games in 1966 where Richmond lost Premiership points over Frank Laughlin not being registered. Checking the reserves teams, Laughlin was named in the Round 12 and Round 15 matches. Unfortunately, the Age did not have reserves games teams for Round 13 (v Footscray), though when both sides met earlier in the year (Round 2), Laughlin was named as an emergency, so I discounted this game.

For 1971, I'm confident of the teams that Fitzroy lost points against, but why I picked the first lot of matches (Rounds 6 to 9) rather than the games later in the year, I have no idea. The only evidence I can find of the points being deducted is from the First Semi Final Football Record (The Age has Fitzroy with 9 wins in Round 22). As St.Kilda beat Fitzroy later in the year, that's the only reason I probably picked the early Rounds.

I have no excuse for the Uni St.Kilda game. No Age or Argus scores, so, somehow, I missed that this was a three quarter score, rather than the full time score. Luckily, I don't think it would make any difference to the Finals Ladders.

Thanks for the above - the 1920 score is possibly lost to History, but I'll do some work at the State Library later in the year, to see if there is any mention in the Sun about 1966 and 1971.

 

[Bassoon]

Hi McPang

Thanks for the kind words - please feel free to use any of my stuff.

There were three games in 1966 where Richmond lost Premiership points over Frank Laughlin not being registered. Checking the reserves teams, Laughlin was named in the Round 12 and Round 15 matches. Unfortunately, the Age did not have reserves games teams for Round 13 (v Footscray), though when both sides met earlier in the year (Round 2), Laughlin was named as an emergency, so I discounted this game.

For 1971, I'm confident of the teams that Fitzroy lost points against, but why I picked the first lot of matches (Rounds 6 to 9) rather than the games later in the year, I have no idea. The only evidence I can find of the points being deducted is from the First Semi Final Football Record (The Age has Fitzroy with 9 wins in Round 22). As St.Kilda beat Fitzroy later in the year, that's the only reason I probably picked the early Rounds.

I have no excuse for the Uni St.Kilda game. No Age or Argus scores, so, somehow, I missed that this was a three quarter score, rather than the full time score. Luckily, I don't think it would make any difference to the Finals Ladders.

Thanks for the above - the 1920 score is possibly lost to History, but I'll do some work at the State Library later in the year, to see if there is any mention in the Sun about 1966 and 1971.

The Argus - Tuesday May 18 1920 Page 10 also shows the same results as The Herald, so it is quite possible that this is the Full Time Score.

 

[McPang]

Thanks a ton for your replies Bassoon - much appreciated!

I do that The Argus score is indeed the full time score (and not just copied from The Herald). I'll have to see if I can find anything further. If only it were clear who the historian was at the Melbourne University Football Club - perhaps old historian/secretary records might have something worth noting. It would be sad for it to be lost to history.

Out of curiosity, have you ever been interested in doing something similar for other leagues? I'm currently working on compiling VFA reserves games (1928-2017), SANFL reserves games (1919-present), WAFL reserves games (1925-present) and TFL/TSL reserves games (1928-present). It's still in its infancy, as I've only done the first year or two of each to get started with a baseline for which teams to add.

As for the disqualified games notes you've provided, I've noted them and I'll let you know if I come across anything!

rbartlett - If I recall correctly, you released a podcast episode interviewing Frank Loughran that I listened to a while back. Is there any chance you ever came across which reserves games he played in 1966 for RFC?

 

[Brad_5668]

I can assist with the WAFL B Grade/ Reserves scores. The B grade began in 1921 and I have score and venues for each season until 1940, then when it resumed in 1946 as a Colts competitiin.

 

[Gibbsy]

I can assist with the WAFL B Grade/ Reserves scores. The B grade began in 1921 and I have score and venues for each season until 1940, then when it resumed in 1946 as a Colts competitiin.

Oliver G ping!

 

[McPang]

I can assist with the WAFL B Grade/ Reserves scores. The B grade began in 1921 and I have score and venues for each season until 1940, then when it resumed in 1946 as a Colts competitiin.

Hi Brad_5668 - that sounds amazing!

At the moment for WAFL B-Grade/Association/Seconds/Reserves, I only have 1925 (self-sourced), and 1946-present (WAFL Footy Facts). I did make a start on 1926 but then got distracted by filling in the TFL from 1908 onwards instead. Too much to do, not enough time. I do also take perhaps a little longer than I should when filling this stuff in because I try to clean up the round numbering/classifications as much as possible as I do it.

Would love to figure out a way to collaborate on this. I am still quite new to this site so I don't even the capability to message etc. so I'm not sure what the best approach is for us to share our findings. Would love to hear your thoughts.

 

[Brad_5668]

Hi Brad_5668 - that sounds amazing!

At the moment for WAFL B-Grade/Association/Seconds/Reserves, I only have 1925 (self-sourced), and 1946-present (WAFL Footy Facts). I did make a start on 1926 but then got distracted by filling in the TFL from 1908 onwards instead. Too much to do, not enough time. I do also take perhaps a little longer than I should when filling this stuff in because I try to clean up the round numbering/classifications as much as possible as I do it.

Would love to figure out a way to collaborate on this. I am still quite new to this site so I don't even the capability to message etc. so I'm not sure what the best approach is for us to share our findings. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Send me a message with your email address and I'll email you the document.

 

[McPang]

Send me a message with your email address and I'll email you the document.

Will do! It looks like I'm still unable to send a message to anyone privately just yet, it seems I'll have to post a bit more first before I get that capability - but I will as soon as I can. On another note, would you happen to know which season was first in which they used "Reserves" (instead of "Seconds") e.g. VFL Seconds -> VFL Reserves for 1960? Unlike the senior level, there's a lot less information out there about name changes throughout the seasons.

 

[McPang]

Brad_5668 - just curious whether you'd be able to message to me first to start the conversation? Any message would do then I believe I would be able to reply back with an email address.

 

[Mobbs]

Brad_5668 might also be short of the minimum posts needed to start a PM! I don't remember the exact limitations.

 

[McPang]

Noted Mobbs - thanks for the heads up. I'll just have to participate in a few other threads a bit more first then!

 

[Brad_5668]

Brad_5668 might also be short of the minimum posts needed to start a PM! I don't remember the exact limitations.

Thanks for the information Mobbs.