Rumour Davey wants out

[Phone]

I would recommend going to a club that will win more matches than their lose, so I would recommend staying away from Richmond. However, as Ben noted, Houil is prone to bad decision making

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Even Mark Bolton had his good games...

In every other game he's played, literally every one, he's displayed those traits in spades.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I would recommend going to a club that will win more matches than their lose, so I would recommend staying away from Richmond. However, as Ben noted, Houil is prone to bad decision making

No more than other players in their first 25 games.

 

[DVD Player]

No more than other players in their first 25 games.

He's played so little in 4 seasons for a reason. He had habits he needed to work on and refine, and has seemingly failed to do so.

 

[Darealrath]

No more than other players in their first 25 games.

Exactly. I bet with some continuity we'd see that ironed out. He's played like an inexperienced senior player at times because that's what he is.

His best footy, like in that saints game, has been bloody fantastic and definately AFL standard. I don't know how anyone can deny that. He deserves the chance to see if he do it consistently, which he hasn't had the opportunity to yet. The strong rumours about his teammates being pissed off about this says a lot.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

He's played so little in 4 seasons for a reason. He had habits he needed to work on and refine, and has seemingly failed to do so.

So did Roger Merrett, Garry O'Donnell.

In every other game he's played, literally every one, he's displayed those traits in spades.

Don't think it's been in spades. You could have said the same about quite a few players...some who have played more games.
FFS we're short of blokes whao can get it 25+ times and use the bloody thing efficiently.

Gets lost in traffic
Reads the play poorly
Poor decision making

All of these he will improve with experience. And by playing a few games in a row to build confidence. I reckon quite a few of his teammates would agree.

EDIT: As Darealrath says

 

[DVD Player]

I wouldn't hesitate in giving him another go if I was Hird, thats for sure. But the reality is, at this current point, he has numerous aspects of his game to work on. Being optimistic, he could become a very solid contributor to a good side. Worth holding onto Imo.

 

[Godzke]

There are definitely elements of the points that you raise.

Anyway contracts need to be signed before Trade Week starts on Tuesday.

eh?

Didn't McPhee have the option to sign after trade week?

 

[Valve Bounce]

eh?

Didn't McPhee have the option to sign after trade week?

I always wondered:Why did McPhee want to leave Essendon?
and why was it done this way where Essendon got nothing out of it?

I must have missed something in that departure.

 

[Godzke]

I always wondered:Why did McPhee want to leave Essendon?
and why was it done this way where Essendon got nothing out of it?

I must have missed something in that departure.

We played hard ball with Welsh and McPhee, confident both would break. Welsh did. Thought we'd keep at it with McPhee, turned out we were wrong.

Essendon furious at not re-signing him (or at least trading him) -> spite Freo's preference for Hardingham -> Freo spite us by signing Barlow.

Ess 0 - Freo 2

Overall though we've done Freo over a few times in trades.

 

[yaco55]

Soft
Gets lost in traffic
Reads the play poorly
Poor decision making



2nd most goals this year?

This could apply to about 10 of our list.

 

[yaco55]

eh?

Didn't McPhee have the option to sign after trade week?

My motto is simple

Sign the players up on Monday or they are offered up for trade.

Knight's who allegedly stopped players from re-signing has been gone for five weeks.

 

[Godzke]

Yeah ok, that's a motto. Doesn't mean there's an official deadline as to signing players before Trade Week starts, which is what your post was implying.

 

[yaco55]

Godzke

It should be standard practice.

Its october 3 - You should know what your plans will be.

 

[Slattery_20]

And when people back out on handshake agreements, you're ****ed whichever way you look at it. It happens probably a dozen times every year
I'm sorry, and it's pathetic (but typical) so many of you are using this to stick it to the club, but if people reneg on deals, there's no reason not to think they're anything but lying *****.

 

[daffo]

Davey to the Saints maybe.

 

[yodellinhank]

re: signing everybody before trade week... It offers us zero flexibility. Just say we want to trade our picks for Brennan (who I don't want, but using as an example). He's on big bucks and would most likely be asking for more given the amount of clubs who may chase him.

1) Declaring Brent Stanton, Alwyn Davey required players we sign them up. We then have x amount left in the cap/future caps and a contract to offer Brennan which may not meet his financial requirements. We can try to offload one of the guys we've signed up, but clubs are tied to the contracts we have signed with them and it makes the trade more difficult, if at all possible.

2) Leaving Stanton uncontracted, who we believe to be sure to sign, we chase Brennan with a bit more money and flexibilty. We then have a figure to offer Stanton which he still may accept, understanding the situation and wishing to remain at the club.

Now whilst pushing the cap this season may not be a barrier, the club also has to take into account pushing the cap in future. You have to assume players like Pears, Hurley, Zaharakis etc are all going to want decent contracts in the future, and we don't want a Stanton contract signed now to be a barrier to that.

Assuming we chase a big fish in trade week with cap space to burn, but we miss out. Does it not make sense to offer a player like Stanton a massively front ended contract? Of course if we signed him up pre trade week, we may not be able to do this; keeping our options open for a possible trade...

 

[Duckworth]

Davey isn't mentioned in any trade talk in the papers. I hope we don't lose him for nothing.

 

[TeamHurley]

Melbourne offering 3rd and 4th apparently.
Davey probably going to bend us over the barrel.

 

[DapperDon]

Melbourne offering 3rd and 4th apparently.
Davey probably going to bend us over the barrel.

We wont use those picks, so if Davey wants out he can go to PSD and play for Richmond or WC.

If he wants to screw us, we should screw him back.

 

[yodellinhank]

We wont use those picks, so if Davey wants out he can go to PSD and play for Richmond or WC.

If he wants to screw us, we should screw him back.

Pretty sure he could enter the National Draft and then it'll be a matter of how long Melbourne are prepared to leave him in there... He may Luke Ball us and get taken with one of those picks, or he might have to sign with us/play somewhere else.

Agreed, it seems unlikely we would use those picks... maybe in another trade? Pies would prob be chasing picks with the amount of players out the door there, possibly Crows also?

 

[daffo]

I don't think there is much interest from other clubs with Davey. I say getting those picks are better then getting nothing if is he going to leave the club for sure. We can always throw those picks in to sweeten another deal.

 

[Spirit of 39]

And when people back out on handshake agreements, you're ****ed whichever way you look at it. It happens probably a dozen times every year
I'm sorry, and it's pathetic (but typical) so many of you are using this to stick it to the club, but if people reneg on deals, there's no reason not to think they're anything but lying *****.

Sean Wellman.

 

[Godzke]

And when people back out on handshake agreements, you're ****ed whichever way you look at it. It happens probably a dozen times every year
I'm sorry, and it's pathetic (but typical) so many of you are using this to stick it to the club, but if people reneg on deals, there's no reason not to think they're anything but lying *****.

Sean Wellman.

You only had him on loan

 

[Slattery_20]

Sean Wellman.

You honestly think any of us care about what your club's saying?

IMHO he was spoken to as far back as April and he would have communicated those intentions, if not a final say. The contract you gave him always allowed that option, he exercised it. Sucked in.

I can understand (just as Geelong are doing) that you're making noise about dishonesty etc, but please try and see it for what it is.