Need to lose the May obsession.
Two firsts for Dayne is overs but If a second comes back to us I’d do that
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Need to lose the May obsession.
Two firsts for Dayne is overs but If a second comes back to us I’d do that
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Bet they don't see it that way.
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Bloke knows the Media watch his Instagram because of the media reports saying he deleted his previous post that he was staying. Probably doing this as well for a few giggles.
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Our firsts are very close to seconds anyway.
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Well one definitely is. All of us will be hoping the 2019 1st pick is 18 (before FA compo picks) but no guarantee.
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I just hope people in here don't back track if we fall out of the 8 next year and that first round pick is a top 10 pick. This years first and next years 2nd seems fair imo.
It’s still overs for a 29 year old unless a second comes back to us, for academy points if nothing else
Our first this year and first next year
Brisbane trade 5 and 18 to Freo for Neale
Freo give us 30 and Brisbane give us 55
Brisbane get Neale and next years first rounder
We get Beams pick 30 and pick 55 this year and should have enough points(at least without big deficit next year) for Quaynor and Kelly
Freo get 5 and 18
Brisbane trade 5 and 18 to Freo for Neale
Freo give us 30 and Brisbane give us 55
Brisbane get Neale and next years first rounder
We get Beams pick 30 and pick 55 this year and should have enough points(at least without big deficit next year) for Quaynor and Kelly
Freo get 5 and 18
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I'm intrigued if anyone has ever done a study to see what the average retirement age is for players split up by player type.
If he can play decent footy until he's 34, then 2 (barely) first rounders is not too much.
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May didn’t even finish top 10 in Suns B&F despite being co-captain and them finishing 17th and him playing in the backline of a team that got belted every week ...
http://m.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2018-09-01/club-champion-all-the-winners
By contrast Beams finished second in the Lions B&F (and 8th in the Brownlow)
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Given how many games he missed at the Lions and given his off field issues, 34 is a stretch of the imagination.
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Whispers going around the Trade is Done and Waiting for Announcement.
Beams to Pies and May to Melbourne
Beams to Pies and May to Melbourne
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Bittersweet.
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If Ned Guy comes out of this with his appendix intact ...
... then we’ll have done better than the last trade we did involving Beams.
I’m not a fan of this beams trade.
Degoey is obviously going to be our Gary Ablett senior. Was really hoping we’d get Bruce and a KPD, as good as beams is he’s too old and we need decent KPP coverage. Dunne is coming back from a reco, Reid is broken, and I’d rather see degoey take over as number 1 mid till sier is ready for it.
I really hope this pays off.
Degoey is obviously going to be our Gary Ablett senior. Was really hoping we’d get Bruce and a KPD, as good as beams is he’s too old and we need decent KPP coverage. Dunne is coming back from a reco, Reid is broken, and I’d rather see degoey take over as number 1 mid till sier is ready for it.
I really hope this pays off.
2-3 years is in our hitting zone based on how we finished 2018. That doesn't mean we will definately be contending and it doesn't count other teams making large gains and passing us but we can only go on where we think we are and what we think will bridge the gap to win us a premierhsip. We are entitled to think we are close and based on the 2 finals we lost we were beaten in the midfield as well as by the lack of a KP defender.
I for one am glad we are doing what we have rarely done and filling spefiic needs when the opportunity arises. This was my (almost) never ending frustration under MM. Beams is a great fit to our midfield and should bridge the gap on WCE, particularly as they get Gaff back into the premiership side and Richmond with a fit Martin. We still need a quality key back but there doesn't appear to be one that we can get this year. May looks out of reach to us.
I agree with those that say 2 first rounders is over the odds but that's presuming we don't get a second round or similar from Brisbane in the deal that helps with this years strategy. In any case, if Beams helps us win a flag he will have been worth 3 first rounders.
It all comes down to bridging the gap. The last 10% is harder than the first 10% and worth whatever it costs. It won't come from also rans and is unlikley to come quickly enough via the draft with high ladder finishes.
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If we use two firsts for Beams, does that mean Quaynor is gone?
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If he has half the career of GOD, we've done well.
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Good point - but many think May could be anything as a player.
Happy with beams ... it’s like Gary going back to the cats
No.
We can go into deficit, or trade picks right up until and even during draft night to make sure we have points.
The only way we don't get Quaynor is if we decide we don't want him at whatever price he ends up being.
I'm not sure why people have just decided that this was a choice that Collingwood made between Beams and May, for the same price, like getting food from a buffet.
Regardless of how anyone personally rates either player, May is worth more because the Suns would be looking at a low first round compensation pick if he leaves next year (Suns could very well challenge for the spoon this year!), so that should be a starting point at the trade table. If we are looking at Pick 18 and something in between future 2nd and a future 1st for Beams then the prices are not comparable.
And we don't know whether May is actually on the cards or if they are just using us to drive a hard bargain with the Dees.
Regardless of how anyone personally rates either player, May is worth more because the Suns would be looking at a low first round compensation pick if he leaves next year (Suns could very well challenge for the spoon this year!), so that should be a starting point at the trade table. If we are looking at Pick 18 and something in between future 2nd and a future 1st for Beams then the prices are not comparable.
And we don't know whether May is actually on the cards or if they are just using us to drive a hard bargain with the Dees.
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