Departing players and Best n Fairests

[Gavin Excell]

The spotlight on this sort of stuff is massive these days but it is really very meaningless.

Yes it can be overblown but there's something to be said about departing gracefully

 

[joe444]

When in doubt, stay classy.

 

[Nvent]

Call Twomey follows it much closer than I do, so will defer to his opinion if that's what he said.

Just based on what I've seen I don't see as much quality as there has been in recent years, so don't envisage it being looked back on as some sort of super draft.

Not the draft you don't want a first-round pick in.

 

[Fadge]

Not the draft you don't want a first-round pick in.

I guess it all depends on a team's list management strategy.

History is littered with many a first round pick who have failed to make the grade.

 

[Bald]

Dogs invited Smith, he didn’t want to. At least that puts it on him and we can say the club did what it could to conduct ourselves in the right away.

Just further to this - I was at the best and fairest last night.

The invitation was sent, declined and he wasn't spoken about at all on the night, which is exactly how it should be handled. I guess it was easier for us as we didn't actually need to mention him (due to him not playing), but the silly swipes at players done by Richmond, or the obvious neglecting to acknowledge by the Saints is a little bizarre.

Jack Macrae attended last night, he won an award, there was no awkwardness. Different case as he's coming to the end of his career as opposed to Smith who's entering his peak, but still, I can't fault the way it was handled by the club.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Melbourne have our B'n'F tonight and we invited Alex Neal-Bullen

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despite him going off to play for the Crows next year. Because he at least deserve it. Dude has played for a decade under us.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Maybe the person in charge of sending out invites had a cold and misinterpreted. No invite to Rattle as no invite to Battle

 

[mightymouse75]

Jessie Hogan had to be taken home by the players manager at his last Freo best and fairest

 

[Mat Mann]

for such a minnow club, we sure do cause a stir, whats this, 4 threads on the main page sooking, whinging or potting us.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

I thought the Richmond speech was directed at Bolton and Rioli TBH.

Baker and Graham are both out of contract.

I can understand clubs being aggrieved at highly paid players who recently sign, only to want to jump ship when things go bad.

I think this is a good point. Player out of contract, wants a fresh start somewhere, someone else is keen to provide that for them: invite them along, hopefully they accept, shake hands, no hard feelings, best wishes for the future. Loyalty is a two-way street and teams cut numerous players who are out of contract every year without blinking.

The ones who force a trade when they still have 3/4/5 years left on a contract though... that's a bit different. You signed the thing, the club can't just cut ties with you a year or two in if you can't get on the park or your form's in the toilet: they're expected to honour it. Of course sometimes there's exceptional circumstances, but in a few of these cases it seems like: guy signed lifetime contract when team was flying, now team is crap and he'd rather jump ship to a premiership contender/club on the rise than take the responsibility of leading his current club back to contention.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Didn't the Adelaide crom refuse to invite Jakey Leaver and then he punched tex's lights out?

I think he was invited but didn't want to attend.

That said, we've had form with being bitter and unprofessional with players leaving. Gunston having his award taken away, Ricciuto having a dig at McGovern and Cameron (and had a stoush with Greenwood too), Tex having a crack at Lever saying he chose money over success (turned out to be both).

Thankfully things have died down on that front, but we haven't exactly had best 22 players leave in the last few years either except for McAdam.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

How often does a team with a heap of picks nail every one of them?

Richmond did in 2004. The gold standard for nailing a draft.

1 - Brett Deledio
4 - Richard Tambling
12 - Danny Meyer
16 - Adam Pattison
20 - Dean Polo

 

[Cleansweep17]

Richmond did in 2004. The gold standard for nailing a draft.

1 - Brett Deledio
4 - Richard Tambling
12 - Danny Meyer
16 - Adam Pattison
20 - Dean Polo

These are the guys that helped us tank to smash you guys later. Let that sink in.

 

[Foxx]

My bet is Daniher will want to come back within the next two years.

 

[Gavin Excell]

My bet is Daniher will want to come back within the next two years.

Back where?
To Vic?

 

[Foxx]

Back where?
To Vic?

AFL somewhere.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

Nice troll. Reality is not everyone is comfortable with public speaking. I mean look at Scotts pressers at Geelong. Awkward, arrogant at times, but I'm sure he's a heck of a guy behind the scenes.

interesting take. even as a hawks fan, i can't help but admire him. he's calm, rational, humble and matter of fact. arrogant, i don't know where you get that from unless its the richmond bias.

 

[RonnieRaven]

How often does a team with a heap of picks nail every one of them?

2019 anchors didn’t miss
Serong young guns
Henry Fredrick solid role players

 

[Cleansweep17]

interesting take. even as a hawks fan, i can't help but admire him. he's calm, rational, humble and matter of fact. arrogant, i don't know where you get that from unless its the richmond bias.

He used to be a hot head, and calmed himself down. However you can’t change the way you totally think so he bottles it up and a little spills out now and then. Make no mistake he’s a FIGJAM, most coaches are especially the successful ones. Dimma certainly is.

 

[Sttew]

He used to be a hot head, and calmed himself down. However you can’t change the way you totally think so he bottles it up and a little spills out now and then. Make no mistake he’s a FIGJAM, most coaches are especially the successful ones. Dimma certainly is.

Just shows what an uninformed nob you are. Not all coaches are FIGJAMS and Chris Scott is nothing like Dimma as a person.

You probably don't recall but Scott was the first to congratulate Dimma during (not after) the 2020 GF when he knew the Cats could not win.

You speak to anyone who knows Chris Scott, or read the article about him that appeared before the PF. They will tell you he is a very private and loyal person who will do anything for his players and he is someone who is humble.

He is also a meticulous coach who plans every move leaving nothing to chance.

Unlike Dimma, Scott is also happily married.

 

[Pistol Night]

He used to be a hot head, and calmed himself down. However you can’t change the way you totally think so he bottles it up and a little spills out now and then. Make no mistake he’s a FIGJAM, most coaches are especially the successful ones. Dimma certainly is.

The difference is Scott has stuck loyal to his club

 

[Toump Ass]

I think he was invited but didn't want to attend.

That said, we've had form with being bitter and unprofessional with players leaving. Gunston having his award taken away, Ricciuto having a dig at McGovern and Cameron (and had a stoush with Greenwood too), Tex having a crack at Lever saying he chose money over success (turned out to be both).

Thankfully things have died down on that front, but we haven't exactly had best 22 players leave in the last few years either except for McAdam.

Dunno if it's true but I read Tex asked Donny Pyke to drop Lever for the grand final against Richmond lmao.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Was at the 2022 BnF with Dunkley in attendance. From memory he hadn’t formally requested a trade but everyone knew he was gone. He was good with supporters who bailed him up etc.

Macrae was all smiles at our one this year too.

If handled maturely it’s fine. I think Smith not turning up makes him look petulant and St Kilda warning off Battle looks petty.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

Just shows what an uninformed nob you are. Not all coaches are FIGJAMS and Chris Scott is nothing like Dimma as a person.

You probably don't recall but Scott was the first to congratulate Dimma during (not after) the 2020 GF when he knew the Cats could not win.

You speak to anyone who knows Chris Scott, or read the article about him that appeared before the PF. They will tell you he is a very private and loyal person who will do anything for his players and he is someone who is humble.

He is also a meticulous coach who plans every move leaving nothing to chance.

Unlike Dimma, Scott is also happily married.

I grew up and played footy in QLD. Even in the 90s, Chris Scott was on the coaching pathway, he was a development officer for AFL Queensland. Even back then, he had time for everyone, and was completely different to the onfield persona you used to see.

 

[Cleansweep17]

The difference is Scott has stuck loyal to his club

Stuck to cash