Those who are complaining about the WACA probably dont go to cricket games anyway. They just see something on TV and complain about it
Design Ideas for new Perth Stadium
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Those who are complaining about the WACA probably dont go to cricket games anyway. They just see something on TV and complain about it
Those who are complaining about the WACA probably dont go to cricket games anyway. They just see something on TV and complain about it
I love the ground in a cricketing sense, but it's pretty hard to argue that the facilities are anything but awful when compared to other Australian stadiums.
No it isnt great I agree with you, but those arguing that the WACA should just pack up and move to the new stadium dont care about the heritage of the ground, dont care about playing real cricket on a real pitch, and dont understand the logistics and complications of any move. The WACA are planning a redevelopment anyway. By building and selling apartments on land that they own, they will use that money on the redevelopment of the rest of the ground. A 28000 ground is their upgrade goal which is enough for test cricket and most ODIs.
hitthepost
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Can I just point out that a "real" pitch is one made up of dirt and grass.
As opposed to concrete and astroturf or anything else.
Just because the dirt is in a metal tray that makes it movable doesn't stop it being real.
Sure, the characteristics may be somewhat different, but it's still "real".
As opposed to concrete and astroturf or anything else.
Just because the dirt is in a metal tray that makes it movable doesn't stop it being real.
Sure, the characteristics may be somewhat different, but it's still "real".
Eastern Rangers
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Kim Hagdorn said:
Hagdorn is an idiot. The future of Subiaco Oval isn't up to the WAFC. It's up the state government and Subiaco council which will fight tooth and nail to preserve it as a reserve. The money generated from some mythical sale aren't likely to flow towards the Burswood stadium either. 2020 completion date is just pissing into the wind and calling it rain. The at best completion date is the 2017 finals season because the 2018 date is a 44 month build time for the main contract.
But the article does raise an interesting idea and that would be for the WAFC and WACA to share the ground. I think the idea of traveling AFL sides using the ground as being totally irrelevant as the Burswood stadium will have a secondary oval.
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I wonder who is expecting any remodelling of the WACA to attract state government funding?
How are the tourist dollars during this Ashes test?
Is there any other sporting event that drags tourists to Perth in similar numbers?
Eastern Rangers
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Rally Austr... i mean... sculptures by the sea.
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Country week?
And the WACA redevelopment is off again.
If you really cared about cricket, it's hard to make a case for the WACA remaining a viable test venue in the future whilst no-one's prepared to pay to bring it into the 21st century.
If you really cared about cricket, it's hard to make a case for the WACA remaining a viable test venue in the future whilst no-one's prepared to pay to bring it into the 21st century.
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Pretty sad. It seems like it's pretty much the most unfashionable thing to pour money into – even the perennially uncool, politically irrelevant fringe sports of soccer and rugby got a great new stadium.
Not really. The government will simply point to the construction site on the other side of the river. If the WACA want to remain where they are simply to preserve a block of clay that could most likely be replicated at said construction site then that's their decision. Just don't expect the government to fund it.
Should probably move all WACA talk to the actual WACA thread and keep this one for the new stadium
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/waca-wallys.906260/page-7#post-30960475
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/waca-wallys.906260/page-7#post-30960475
MCG = now one of the deadest wickets in Australia.
Adelaide Oval = Dead wicket on the third/forth day where previously good bowling could generate a result.
And that's on grounds where bizarre management rules won't require the wicket block to be ripped up and relaid multiple times each summer at the whim of the State Government.
If you think they'll be able to accommodate cricket and Burswood without spending any money, you're dreaming.
Perhaps you need read up V8 Supercars raid on the WA taxpayers purse.
The Adelaide Oval wicket was the same this year as it ever was and good bowling by Johnson and co. did generate a result.
The MCG has a better wicket now than in the 'good old days'.
hitthepost
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When wasn't AO a bit "dead"?
Give it 3 years of roller-work and it'll be only as dead as it used to be.
Eastern Rangers
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Did i mention the V8 Supercars?
My point is suggestions a drop-in can replicate what we've currently got in Perth are ridiculous - particularly with the requirement to be repeatedly ripped up and relaid over the summer that a move to Burswood will impose.
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Oh yeah, like it's going to crack more than it currently does? Nathan Lyon hitting a crack and making Shane Warne like a straight breaker? Spare me!
The MCG pitches at the moment are faster and carry better than the old permanent pitches used to be. The main component of a cricket pitches characteristics is the soil. Using the same soil in drop ins is extremely easy and within a couple of years they will play almost exactly the same. Hopefully without the Grand Canyon opening up...
Again, you're missing the point that due to the state government insisting that no sport can be "based" at Burswood, the wicket block will have to be ripped up and relaid multiple times each summer. That basically wrecks any chance the block has to settle.
MCG and Adelaide Oval have always been dead wickets. Adelaide Oval especially is a road every year. Funnily enough, it was a road again this year.
Still, if the WACA want to play on the same track in front of decrepit stands and dwindling crowds, good luck to them. They run cricket, not the government. Their choice.
Cricket's already being accommodated. It's being built East-West for cricket, despite the horrid experiences at Docklands (and Subi for that matter) with players looking into the sun.
Other than the wicket, what else would need to be done? You could probably use the existing facilities at the WACA as practice wickets. Alternatively, sell the WACA and set up shop at the oval next to Burswood, and play Warriors games there.
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