Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry Current

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Suppression orders are in force, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
One even reduced bike riding to - BR

 

[Underarrest_]

My answer to your looking for daddy question is ... because FM had told her the correct story to tell to police! Being questioned by police would have been daunting to a 4yo so a bit of preprompting so what mother told me to say about what hapoened and everything will be ok to calm her down.

IMO one thing that should have happened when 1st responders arrived on scene was to separate everybody until they had been individually spoken too.

I think one of the police who arrived did talk to FD first and then FD was interviewed by specialist officers.
Children can be prepromted but FD would have had to have stuck to the same version of events. I’d assume FD was interviewed more than once using different techniques.

 

[passball]

I don't think William was wearing his shoes, which is unlikely if he jumped off the patio still in the roaring game.

Hi all. Long time follower of this thread but first time poster here.

In Candace Sutton's article below there is a specific reference to William actually putting his shoes back on:

"Jubelin told her in the interview that the 9.37am photo was 'the last confirmed sighting of William'.

The foster mother said it was after this that William had become bored playing with dice on the verandah and had put his shoes back on and 'jumped down off this deck'.

He was running around in front of us and I remember [the foster grandmother] saying, "Do you think he's got ADD?" and I'm like, "No, he's just excited,"' * FM said.

It was after this that William vanished; however, Jubelin quizzed her about her previous account of events."

This could be inaccurate of course but interesting all the same given WT is barefoot in the verandah photos with his sandals visible in the background, but the FM did not mention him wearing them in the 000 call or in her statement to police.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-account-missing-toddlers-morning-alive.html

I don't think William was wearing his shoes, unlikely if he jumped off the patio still in the roaring game.
It's strange that in the FF walk through he said he was looking for things like a shoe. Why not 2 shoes. Did they lose a shoe on the way of hiding him?

 

[Underarrest_]

Wendy Hudson did the 1st interview on the 12th was she trained as a specialist child interviewer?

WH got the sleeping arrangement bedrooms mixed up in her report.

Yes Wendy Hudson a police officer followed by specialist officers.

 

[InTheBleachers]

I think one of the police who arrived did talk to FD first and then FD was interviewed by specialist officers.
Children can be prepromted but FD would have had to have stuck to the same version of events. I’d assume FD was interviewed more than once using different techniques.

FD was interviewed by Detective Debra Nelson on Monday 15th September. Detective Nelson is trained and skilled in trauma informed approaches, particularly involving sexual misconduct and child safety.

Caroline Overington states the interview date and interviewing officer in her book. And Detective Nelson's linkedin page shows her many qualifications.

 

[gymjam]

I


I remember also being amazed to hear that FM was permitted to drive herself to Port Macquarie to collect her sister. Incredible if that was the case.

During FF interview his carxwas not there at 48 and it became clear later that FM had taken the car to drive to her interview in P. mac with her mother I would say as she was interviewed on same day there too.

Then they pickup FM sister at airport and on way back that is when FM had the sudden realization about the 2 cars parked in Benaroon Drive on the 12th. So she doesn't remember them even after the 000 operator asked her a clear question about strangers or cars in the street and she doesn't recall them when making her statement on 14th either and I am sure that would have been one ormore of the questions asked of her during the interview process with Det Partridge whilst preparing her witness statement on 14th. I wonder when FM was first told about Chris Rowkey's finding her mother's car bonnet feeling warm to the touch on his arrival at 11.06 on 12th.

I wonder if police had experiments conducted to test how long and under what conditions ie weather and temp etc the bonnet of that Mazda 3 car would take to cool down after a drive of various distances and journey start and end times and speed traveled compared to the time Rowley arrived on scene?

 

[gymjam]

I think one of the police who arrived did talk to FD first and then FD was interviewed by specialist officers.
Children can be prepromted but FD would have had to have stuck to the same version of events. I’d assume FD was interviewed more than once using different techniques.

Yes the tell your story then have the story repeated in reverse by deliberate questioning techniques always catches a slip up as the brain gets very muddled trying to recall the false stuff in correct order and will spurt out the real stuff.

 

[Wallace52]

Yes Wendy Hudson a police officer followed by specialist officers.

What do we mean that Wendy got the sleeping arrangements mixed up?

 

[Wallace52]

I don't think William was wearing his shoes, which is unlikely if he jumped off the patio still in the roaring game.

I don't think William was wearing his shoes, unlikely if he jumped off the patio still in the roaring game.
It's strange that in the FF walk through he said he was looking for things like a shoe. Why not 2 shoes. Did they lose a shoe on the way of hiding him?

It’s possible.

 

[js47]

FF rang to say home on five I don’t know how phone towers work but instead of FF ringing could FM have rung him other way round with land line and said I will meet you?

 

[Wallace52]

FF rang to say home on five I don’t know how phone towers work but instead of FF ringing could FM have rung him other way round with land line and said I will meet you?

It was a text sent by Siri

 

[js47]

If William was not abducted and something happened to him and was hidden on the property that makes the time of the photos irrelevant because he probably was moved that night. The FF was away from the house when police arrived the next morning.

 

[js47]

Thanks Wallace just a thought

 

[js47]

I keep thinking FM had to have been some where to see the truck was on that road but not on Barta Creek Road itself any thoughts?

 

[js47]

Wondering if she wait for FF somewhere in the car? Just a long shot.