Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry Current

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Suppression orders are in force, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
One even reduced bike riding to - BR

 

[passball]

You’re probably not the odd one out.
I would have thought neighbours might have dropped food in but maybe they didn’t.

I wonder what meal they cooked.
Would have been pizza night for me, and that's only if I had an appetite.
But if you know whats happened you might as well have a sleep because you know he won't be found, and that he's having a sleepover

 

[Wallace52]

if you know whats happened you might as well have a sleep because you know he won't be found,

In fairness, the foster father did have an ambulance over to the house the night of William’s disappearance.

So I’m not sure he was feeling great that night. Usually one calls an ambulance for an emergency.

I’m not sure what emergency he had, but it seems as if that part of his evening was a bit difficult, for him. Maybe it got better after that, IDK.

 

[Awakening]

You can't ride a horse through the virgin bush around there. Probably can't walk through it either.

 

[Underarrest_]

I wonder what meal they cooked.
Would have been pizza night for me, and that's only if I had an appetite.
But if you know whats happened you might as well have a sleep because you know he won't be found, and that he's having a sleepover

I’m guessing they cooked something quick so FD FGM could maybe eat a bit but I don’t know, maybe they were having a roast lamb with their wine.
I believe FF had been out all day looking, not sure about FM.
(All things that police would know, hopefully at least now anyway.)

 

[Awakening]

In fairness, the foster father did have an ambulance over to the house the night of William’s disappearance.

So I’m not sure he was feeling great that night. Usually one calls an ambulance for an emergency.

I’m not sure what emergency he had, but it seems as if that part of his evening was a bit difficult, for him. Maybe it got better after that, IDK.

I imagine that as it gets darker and your foster kids bedtime passes and he hasn’t been found yet, that you could quite easily experience a panic attack.

 

[Wallace52]

I imagine that as it gets darker and your foster kids bedtime passes and he hasn’t been found yet, that you could quite easily experience a panic attack.

No doubt. It would have been terrifying, and that’s another indicator to me that at that particular point in time, the FF was completely innocent of anything to do with how William disappeared.

 

[passball]

He gave the foster mother a nice big hug at the recent inquest. In public.

Unbelievable.
No words.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

His remains could very easily have been taken by foxes.

Could a 6 kg fox carry a 16 kg child away entirely? Ill look

 

[Poppy Penny]

He gave the foster mother a nice big hug at the recent inquest. In public.

Well that’s sending a powerful and defiant message to the public. And I would like to add……FY too Jubelin.

 

[Wallace52]

Could a 6 kg fox carry a 16 kg child away entirely? Ill look

My Google search history is not looking fantastic….but alas….


“Foxes are known for digging up corpses, be they of pets buried in the back garden or, very occasionally, the bodies of humans, especially children buried in paupers' graves.”

Do foxes & badgers bury their dead? | Wildlife Online

This behaviour has been observed in both species. In foxes it's probably caching food. In badgers the reason is unknown, although cleanliness of the sett seems likely.

www.wildlifeonline.me.uk

 

[Wallace52]

Well that’s sending a powerful and defiant message to the public. And I would like to add……FY too Jubelin.

Jubes is in black and FM in orange…. At the recent inquest hearings.

 

[31550]

No doubt. It would have been terrifying, and that’s another indicator to me that at that particular point in time, the FF was completely innocent of anything to do with how William disappeared.

I think his behaviour, when he got into an argument with the neighbour about wanting to search his shed/garage, although a bit weird, showed he was genuine at the time. He's not that good an actor, and if guilty would not draw suspicion by creating a scene. A guilty trickster would act 'nice as pie' - now who does that sound like? Ask GJ and MU.

 

[31550]

Could a 6 kg fox carry a 16 kg child away entirely? Ill look

More than one fox perhaps.

 

[31550]

I’m guessing they cooked something quick so FD FGM could maybe eat a bit but I don’t know, maybe they were having a roast lamb with their wine.
I believe FF had been out all day looking, not sure about FM.
(All things that police would know, hopefully at least now anyway.)

I don't know Kendall well enough. But if I was hungry, and I wouldn't be, it'd be a quick and dirty takeaway - pizza, burger, fish and chips, local Chinese?.
I thought maybe the cops suggested they remain at the property so they were forced to cook, but could surely have sent someone to pick up some food? I reckon Lydene would probably have been rolling out sandwiches or have fired up a sausage sizzle by then if she'd had her way.

 

[31550]

I know what you’re saying but it’s not Clare or Alice’s fault if they didn’t know.

IMO

And in fairness, both the original chief investigator and Jubelin cleared her and her husband.
So why would the Collins ladies have any reason to suspect anything apart from that the FM told them ?

Yeah poor judgement and poor choice of friends is not a crime. And it's a bit much to expect integrity from anyone in the PR business. Their whole enterprise is founded on lies.

 

[Underarrest_]

I don't know Kendall well enough. But if I was hungry, and I wouldn't be, it'd be a quick and dirty takeaway - pizza, burger, fish and chips, local Chinese?.
I thought maybe the cops suggested they remain at the property so they were forced to cook, but could surely have sent someone to pick up some food? I reckon Lydene would probably have been rolling out sandwiches or have fired up a sausage sizzle by then if she'd had her way.

Roast lamb, vegetables and mint sauce might have been on the menu.
Personally, I couldn’t eat, probably would have collapsed. Sometimes it’s amazing how people deal with different situations and I’d probably make sure my family had something. I can’t eat after a funeral but most people hog in at the wake.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Well that’s sending a powerful and defiant message to the public. And I would like to add……FY too Jubelin.

GJ is an utter idiot imo. Planting a listening device and determining guit or innocence entirely on the back of what's said is useless..All it does is prove what they said when you listened not what they did. Either that or it proves the person was wise to him. 500% GJ....Cinderella. Look it up.. black eyes. Falling off a chair, hitting his head and couldn't hear....or my favourite....bouncing out of his skull..Shake my head..

 

[passball]

I find it sad that he couldn't see the bigger picture and was manipulated THIS time.
If we are picking out inconsistencies with FM eith what info we have, how did he block it out altogether?
Maybe the only fox in this case is FM.

 

[31550]

GJ is an utter idiot imo. Planting a listening device and determining guit or innocence entirely on the back of what's said is useless..All it does is prove what they said when you listened not what they did. Either that or it proves the person was wise to him. 500% GJ....Cinderella. Look it up.. black eyes. Falling off a chair, hitting his head and couldn't hear....or my favourite....bouncing out of his skull..Shake my head..

If GJ was a TV show he jumped the shark several times over this case.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

More than one fox perhaps.

The thing is that if he was placed there dead and was taken that night by fox then the scent would still be there and would be detectable to a cadaver dog which came along very new day at that spot. No. Imo he was never there

 

[31550]

The thing is that if he was placed there dead and was taken that night by fox then the scent would still be there and would be detectable to a cadaver dog which came along very new day at that spot. No. Imo he was never there

When did they start using cadaver dogs on this case as opposed to search dogs?
And do you know the search area? Pretty narrow and close to the FGM property I assume. Why search 3 or 4km away - a 3YO boy couldn't get that far on foot.

 

[jason_recliner]

And then they were bugged again.
How did that turn out?

How did what turn out. You claimed he never considered them suspects. Why bug them then.

 

[pinkjellybean]

Some thoughts about the three strange cars FM claimed to have seen on the morning of William's disappearance....

Is there any record of FGM saying she either knew of their existence (i.e. via FM) or had seen them herself? The first two cars were enough to raise FM's suspicions and I would have thought may have warranted a comment or question to FGM over breakfast, especially as the cars were still there during the "Mummy Monster" and tree climbing activities.

Then, FGM was out with FM, FD and WT during the bike riding on the driveway when the third car drove past. Again, you would expect there to be a comment made, especially when FD asked about the car. FGM with all her local knowledge may well have been able to identify the cars or the "weathered man" driving the third one.

 

[31550]

Some thoughts about the three strange cars FM claimed to have seen on the morning of William's disappearance....

Is there any record of FGM saying she either knew of their existence (i.e. via FM) or had seen them herself? The first two cars were enough to raise FM's suspicions and I would have thought may have warranted a comment or question to FGM over breakfast, especially as the cars were still there during the "Mummy Monster" and tree climbing activities.

Then, FGM was out with FM, FD and WT during the bike riding on the driveway when the third car drove past. Again, you would expect there to be a comment made, especially when FD asked about the car. FGM with all her local knowledge may well have been able to identify the cars or the "weathered man" driving the third one.

You seem a little unfamiliar with some of the basic facts of this case. I refer to the FGM walkthrough video. The FGM states she never saw the cars that the FM said she saw. The FGM never mentions bike riding. These are both parts of the FM narrative only, not the FGMs.

 

[gymjam]

What do we mean that Wendy got the sleeping arrangements mixed up?

She had each bedroom each foster parent slept in with the same child swapped around.

IE FF and William in the room next to the carport and mother and other child in bedroom near loungeroom. She just got the number of each bedroom on the house plan wrong.