Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[31550]

Agree entirely. Even if I'm innocent my response would be filled with expletives..

It's not as though they ambushed her while she was grieving over the loss of a child. She had been through several rounds of police interviews before. Years had passed. She was given advance notice about the NSWCC hearing, and access to legal advice, so she knew what to expect. They even gave her opportunity to give evidence with no repercussions. She had every opportunity to prepare for some tough questions. She would and should have been expecting tough questions because of the NSWCC coercive powers. She wasn't there to have a nice chat, a cup of tea and some cucumber sandwiches.
Yes she tripped up on that answer, but only someone who knew what happened would answer that question with a definitive 'No'.

 

[Underarrest_]

The FM I've noticed, cries when she's confronted with evidence that may be incriminating.

I don't like that statement she made about finding a skeleton in a clearing, it's very specific. Too specific. From her position, she's put forward an abduction from the beginning and he was moved out of the area. Why would she assume he'd be found as a skeleton in a clearing?

Not conclusive of course but my spideys twitched when I read it.

I can’t understand her talking about her child to a friend like that neither.
She might have presumed he was no longer alive by then but ‘skeleton in a clearing in the bush?’ It’s pretty harsh and also specific.

 

[BFew]

All the happy videos in the media of William are with his FF. They look happy together. I haven’t seen any videos of the FM and William together.

Have you?

And why is that? What dynamic did they have?

Maybe she preferred to be behind the not so smart camera.

 

[BFew]

I’ve never driven a black car & I’ve never had blonde hair

That would appear to qualify you for a grilling from the NSW CC.

 

[shorsky]

That’s correct. His bio parents did not know actually where the FGM house was located.

I doubt it would’ve been too difficult for them to find out if they really wanted to.

However the original post was suggesting that William’s parents took him from Benaroon Drive when they went into hiding with him as a baby - that is incorrect.

The reason they went into hiding is because they didn’t want William taken from them and put into Foster Care (they already had lost their daughter to that fate)

 

[Kurve]

I can’t understand her talking about her child to a friend like that neither.
She might have presumed he was no longer alive by then but ‘skeleton in a clearing in the bush?’ It’s pretty harsh and also specific.

Yes it's harsh and seems a contradiction.

 

[BFew]

So what was her answer to why she waited 5 days before revealing the drive?

How did she explain taking the drive before dialling 000?

Why wasn't she asked to explain taking the drive BEFORE even looking for William in the house or garden or down the street?

Why wasn't she asked why she drove all the way to the riding school if William was only gone 5 minutes?

Why wasn't she asked why she told FF, “He was here 5 minutes ago“, when clearly he had been missing much longer?

Why wasn't she asked why she told the 000 operator at 10:55 that they had been looking for about 20 minutes?

Why wasn't she asked why she was drinking tea when FF came home instead of looking for William?

How do you know she wasn't asked those questions?

 

[shorsky]

What do you think Kurve ?

A typo or a hint?

• Inquest will examine if foster grandmother disposed of his body

Tragic theory on what happened to William Tyrrell to be examined

The toddler - who was last seen wearing a Spider-Man costume - went missing while playing on the verandah at his foster grandmother's home in Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast.

www.dailymail.co.uk

They refer to FM all the way through the article so I say it’s a Typo.

Just another example of shoddy journalism, to go hand-in-hand with the shoddy investigation imo.

 

[Wallace52]

Thanks Wallace I have read so much and I have spent so much time in Kendal/CH. But thanks for your insight into physical observation.

I got very lucky in that I was in the right place at the right time.

 

[Underarrest_]

Yes it's harsh and seems a contradiction.

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

 

[BFew]

Not sure this has been reported yet today.

William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call

The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'

www.dailymail.co.uk

By Candace Sutton for Daily Mail Australia
Published: 19:34 AEDT, 7 November 2024 | Updated: 20:50 AEDT, 7 November 2024

'In a further bombshell development on Thursday, NSW Police asked for the foster mother to be recalled for questioning before the inquest for the first time since she testified in 2019.'

 

[Wallace52]

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

Well foster mum is wearing the Where’s William ribbon today, and the gallery is listening to her saying this on a phone call to a friend:

The inquest into the toddler's 2014 disappearance also heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed she talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing' that would be eventually discovered.
….

“That's what I'm saying, he’ll be found in 30 or 40 or 50 or 200 years time when they are doing a clearing and they find the skeleton,' the foster mother said during along phone call to a friend on the night of October 15, 2021.

'I don’t believe that if I had done anything to William that I would have tried to cover it up, I would own up to it. I just can’t see it in me.

'I mean how much time did I have, It’s just impossible, no evidence. Apparently there were smells of bodies in ditches and pathways.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14052483/amp/William-Tyrrells-foster-mum-inquest.html


According to foster mum SD/

*So there were smells of bodies in ditches and pathways.

*he’ll be found in 30 or 40 or 50 or 200 years time when they are doing a clearing and they find the skeleton,'

*Apparently there were smells of bodies in ditches and pathways.'


From the WW campaigns most recent announcement:

“On the tragic tenth anniversary of William’s unsolved disappearance, Where’s William? is inviting all Australians to show their love and support for William and his loved ones by lighting a candle to help create a symbolic pathway of hope - hope that William can find his way home to all who love him, especially his siblings.”

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SD wearing her Where’s William? Ribbon that urges supporters to bring him home ….

 

[Wallace52]

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

Spot on. I’ve gone into this a bit more in my post.

 

[Kurve]

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

There should be an inquiry in to the negative influence the WW campaign has had on the investigation.

 

[Wallace52]

There should be an inquiry in to the negative influence the WW campaign has had on the investigation.

Yes. And it should be henceforth shut down. I’ve often thought that campaign is an example of the FM perverting the course of justice.

I can imagine the Morecombe’s were very relieved to have extricated themselves from that auspicing relationship when they did, otherwise there would be big legal and PR issues for them now. IMO

They jumped ship just in time.

This screen shot is from a comment made 8 weeks ago by the organisers of the WW campaign:

 

[shorsky]

But the police might not know when (or even if) FM went driving. If she can't remember a time and hasn't claimed when she would have been in a position where Peter and Michelle should have seen her, it might not matter much if Peter (and presumably Michelle?) claim they didn't see her. She might still have been there, but at a different time.

Peter followed Michelle to Cobb & Co Road for the pick up. … says to me he’s not a local ( as I guessed from the wa6 he pronounced Kendall in his call to Ray Hadley)

I’m thinking Peter was asked to give evidence in order to cast doubt on FM drive in the Batar Cr / Cobb & Co Rd area between 10 am - 11.30 am (my estimate of his time in the area from what he said to Ray)

 

[Wallace52]

'I don’t believe that if I had done anything to William that I would have tried to cover it up, I would own up to it. I just can’t see it in me.

“I just can’t see it in me.”

Is she just stepping outside of her body when she speaks to this friend and just looking down at herself from afar?

Like she doesn’t know. That is how you speak about someone who is not you.

I can’t see it in them.

Which means: You don’t think they’re capable of doing x y z. But you don’t really know because you’re not in their shoes, so you say I can’t see it in them as a hypothesis about what you think they won’t do. Because you don’t know for sure.

So when she says “I just can’t see it in me.” is she looking down at herself from above or has she stepped out of her own body and she is saying, “I don’t think I am capable of doing x y z.”

So does she not know for sure if she’s capable of moving his body?

 

[Wallace52]

Not sure this has been reported yet today.

William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call

The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'

www.dailymail.co.uk

By Candace Sutton for Daily Mail Australia
Published: 19:34 AEDT, 7 November 2024 | Updated: 20:50 AEDT, 7 November 2024

'In a further bombshell development on Thursday, NSW Police asked for the foster mother to be recalled for questioning before the inquest for the first time since she testified in 2019.'

Hang on, what’s that?

 

[Awakening]

“I just can’t see it in me.”

Is she just stepping outside of her body when she speaks to this friend and just looking down at herself from afar?

Like she doesn’t know. That is how you speak about someone who is not you.

I can’t see it in them.

Which means: You don’t think they’re capable of doing x y z.

So when she says “I just can’t see it in me.” is she looking down at herself from above or has she stepped out of her own body and she is saying, “I don’t think I am capable of doing x y z.”

Yeah it’s a weird turn of phrase

 

[Wallace52]

Ms Callan asked the foster mother why she hadn't revealed to police until five days after the disappearance that on that morning she had driven her mother's car to the local driving school on Batar Creek Road in Kendall, before she had even dialled Triple-0 to report him missing.

'Do you accept when you took the drive to the riding school you could have dumped William's body. Did you take his body to the riding school?'

William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call

The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'

www.dailymail.co.uk

<italics by me; that question has been kicking around on this forum for a while. IIRC >

 

[Wallace52]

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

That video won’t age well… and nor will… well…

 

[js47]

Big contradiction to the ‘where’s William campaign,’ and the campaigners saying not long ago they believe there’s a possibility he could still be alive.

Wonder how they feel now

 

[BFew]

Hang on, what’s that?

NSW Police wants the Foster Mother to take the witness stand again sometime between 16-20 Dec 2024. (reports the DM tonight)

 

[Wallace52]

NSW Police wants the Foster Mother to take the witness stand again sometime between 16-20 Dec 2024. (reports the DM tonight)

Oh, snap!

 

[31550]

I doubt it would’ve been too difficult for them to find out if they really wanted to.

No. It would be impossible. This was not a voluntary foster placement. It was court ordered. The foster parents identities and addresses are not made available to biological parents. And even if they found out and even found out about the FGM property from access visits the bio parents had no way of knowing William would be there that morning, because the plan was to go up on the Friday, and not arrive till the afternoon.