Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[Lady O]

Anyone want evidence he had two different Spiderman suits? Look at the web pattern on the sleeve and neck.

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You can look at something hiding in plain sight. Could this be an optical illusion? Has he changed tops?

The photo of the back of the suit with the white spider was not published initially, only the view from the front. It is the main reason that Jubelin suspected Paul Savage. When they planted a spiderman suit in the bush along his usual walking track, he told them in the interview that he first noticed something "white", except the planted suit did not have any white on it. The white on WT's suit had not been revealed at that time.

 

[truecrimepath]

Is this a two piece suit?

That's what I think. one has both vertical and horizontal stripes in the iconic photo and the other has black stripes in one direction.

 

[31550]

That's a bit much. Look at the pattern. One fabric has black stripes in two directions. The other has stripes in one direction only.

You can see the seams on the fabric, they are two different pieces stitched together. They are not necessarily going to have identical patterns.

But I agree there is no destruction of credibility in the original post. It's a fair enough question to raise.

 

[truecrimepath]

You can see the seams on the fabric, they are two different pieces stitched together. They are not necessarily going to have identical patterns.

But I agree there is no destruction of credibility in the original post. It's a fair enough question to raise.

It's around the neck that it looks different. You can see the seam in the iconic photo. I am not an expert in sewing but I would of thought this fabric would be one piece.

 

[Underarrest_]

That's what I think. one has both vertical and horizontal stripes in the iconic photo and the other has black stripes in one direction.

The top doesn’t look like it ends.

 

[BFew]

That's a bit much. Look at the pattern. One fabric has black stripes in two directions. The other has stripes in one direction only.

I did look at the pattern.

So you are assuming that the stripes are the same on both the back and front parts?

And that none of the stripes could have come off, even if originally the same criss cross stripes were on both on the front and back parts?

 

[truecrimepath]

I did look at the pattern.

So you are assuming that the stripes are the same on both the back and front parts?

And that none of the stripes could have come off, even if originally the same criss cross stripes were on both on the front and back parts?

you can see the seam for the neck fabric in the iconic photo. It has stripes in two directions. No it hasn't come off.

 

[31550]

I did look at the pattern.

So you are assuming that the stripes are the same on both the back and front parts?

And that none of the stripes could have come off, even if originally the same criss cross stripes were on both on the front and back parts?

The vertical black stripes on the rear are obscured somewhat in some of the pictures because of the angle, folds in the fabric, or maybe even photo retouching before publishing.

Another note- the spiderman suit photos presented by Jubelin are nothing like the actual suit in the actual photos of William, demonstrating that police were either unable to find an exact replica suit, or deliberately wanted to withhold certain information about the suit from the public.

 

[truecrimepath]

They look the same to me. Can you post a side-by-side image so we can see what you mean?

Re the suit - it was allegedly purchased in Bali around August 2014, so any photos before this date could not be the same suit. Police demonstrated a suit 'similar' to the one allegedly worn, but seemingly could not provide an identical one. This indicates the suit is not readily available for sale in Australia. Not one person or clothing supplier came forward and said, "Oh yes, that's the same as the one we got our kid from Target/Kmart/wherever". This suggests the suit was indeed purchased in Bali. Also no witness ever came forward and said, "I saw William in that suit before the fosters went to Bali".

Now the suggestion is the suit was purchased in Bali especially to replace the one he had grown out of, so that the photos taken a few months earlier could be subsequently used as proof of life? Ridiculous - for such a perfect crime you would buy the EXACT SAME SUIT again in Australia, just a larger size. You wouldn't buy a different style or pattern!

Re the teeth- the bicuspids seem approximately the same size in the birthday photos and the verandah photos - its the two CENTRAL front teeth which are larger - they are LARGEST in the 'roar' photo, and larger in proportion to the bicuspids. This indicates to me that the 'roar' photo is later than the birthday photo. I am not a dental expert, but common sense suggests to me that bigger front teeth means older.

Finally, and I've mentioned this before, the whole 'fake photo' conspiracy theory is just too complicated. If they wanted to 'off' William, all they needed to do was to take the 4WD a little way into the forest, then walk him to one of the various little-known mineshafts, and toss him in. Then make up the story that they were picnicking and he wandered off. Simple, plausible. Gives them plenty of time to dispose of evidence elsewhere. They could delay reporting him missing for a while with the alibi that they were searching for him, had to walk back to vehicle or FGM house for phones etc. There would be no scent for dogs near the property. They could misdirect police to a different part of the forest. Simple, believable, he would never be found. No need to make things worse by faking evidence which might actually bring you undone.

FYI. Deciduous Teeth don't actually grow once fully erupted. The 1st Incisors are the first teeth to erupt and reach their peak size first. The fact you think they look bigger actually supports the notion that he is younger. Can you please give a comment why there is quite a large gap where his right cuspid is clearly visible in other photos.

In terms of the suit, we don't know where or when she purchased it. May of been online from an international supplier. Did you think she could be lying?

 

[Underarrest_]

The vertical black stripes on the rear are obscured somewhat in some of the pictures because of the angle, folds in the fabric, or maybe even photo retouching before publishing.

Another note- the spiderman suit photos presented by Jubelin are nothing like the actual suit in the actual photos of William, demonstrating that police were either unable to find an exact replica suit, or deliberately wanted to withhold certain information about the suit from the public.

Wasn’t part of this that it was a two piece set?

 

[truecrimepath]

Side by side

 

[truecrimepath]

I did look at the pattern.

So you are assuming that the stripes are the same on both the back and front parts?

And that none of the stripes could have come off, even if originally the same criss cross stripes were on both on the front and back parts?

Yes they are the same. The neck piece is one piece of fabric. The arms are made of two pieces. One blue and one red. It's unlikely they retouched the photos and only took out stripes in one direction. Look at the arms near his wrist. It's not folded.

It looks like a different top.

It explains the discrepancy in lighting between photos. The photos were allegedly all taken in a 2 minute time span yet the lighting in each photo is quite different.

 

[Wallace52]

Attached: This is the photo editing software that the foster father was selling on one of his two Gumtree accounts.

I’ve trimmed his name off to respect the suppression order.

These were up for sale circa May 6, 2024.

 

[BFew]

Attached: This is the photo editing software that the foster father was selling on one of his two Gumtree accounts.

I’ve trimmed his name off to respect the suppression order.

These were up for sale circa May 6, 2024.

The wording in the ad for the software is

'Adobe Software
$20

Collection of original Adobe Software.
Including Creative Suite, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, Fireworks. Most come with product keys or serial numbers. They are not current versions and no guarantee with installation or software support from Adobe.

Note: purchase it as is, and no return or refund.'

A bit about each of those software items I've dug up from google. (not in the ad)

Creative Suite - a collection of graphic design, video editing, and web development applications made by Adobe Systems. The collection consists of Adobe's applications (e.g., Photoshop, Acrobat, InDesign), that are based on various technologies (e.g., PostScript, PDF, Flash)

Illustrator - a vector graphics editor and design software

Photoshop - photo editing software

Premiere - a QuickTime-based video editor

After Effects - a digital visual effects, motion graphics, and compositing application used for animation and in the post-production process of film making, video games and television production

Fireworks - a bitmap and vector graphics editor made for web designers for rapidly creating website prototypes and application interfaces.

 

[truecrimepath]

Attached: This is the photo editing software that the foster father was selling on one of his two Gumtree accounts.

I’ve trimmed his name off to respect the suppression order.

These were up for sale circa May 6, 2024.

They had the right software in Sydney. It's the grandmothers software that is relevant to the case. Now I don't think they needed specialist software to do what they did.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

It's not possible to come to your conclusion due to the different aspects that the photos were taken from, showing different sides of the suit.

I think you just destroyed your credibility somewhat here.

The pattern is consistent on all red aspects of the suit. Horizontal criss crosses at 6" intervals but only on the red.. The picture shown doesn't show enough to state that the band travels full circumference on outstretched arm. It's possible that is just the style. Sometimes too it can be that the stripes are printed on fabric which tends to erode with use and washes creating missing patches on high use areas

I don't see anything creating concern

 

[Wallace52]

The wording in the ad for the software is

'Adobe Software
$20

Collection of original Adobe Software.
Including Creative Suite, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, Fireworks. Most come with product keys or serial numbers. They are not current versions and no guarantee with installation or software support from Adobe.

Note: purchase it as is, and no return or refund.'

A bit about each of those software items I've dug up from google. (not in the ad)

Creative Suite - a collection of graphic design, video editing, and web development applications made by Adobe Systems. The collection consists of Adobe's applications (e.g., Photoshop, Acrobat, InDesign), that are based on various technologies (e.g., PostScript, PDF, Flash)

Illustrator - a vector graphics editor and design software

Photoshop - photo editing software

Premiere - a QuickTime-based video editor

After Effects - a digital visual effects, motion graphics, and compositing application used for animation and in the post-production process of film making, video games and television production

Fireworks - a bitmap and vector graphics editor made for web designers for rapidly creating website prototypes and application interfaces.

Thank you.

 

[Wallace52]

The foster father also sold this camera on one of his two Gumtree accounts circa April 2024.

It might be of interest to some of you.

I’ve trimmed his name to abide by the suppression order.

Photos/screen shots are attached.