Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[stormbird]

William’s FM speaks out and says police have done nothing to find him for the last 5 years … instead focused on blackening her name ( even though no one is allowed to know her name !)

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/done-nothing-william-tyrrells-foster-mother-issues-statement/news-story/0503f8940a3bad2bb2648c38bc44e288

shorsky, in my opinion the important people in FM's life (family, friends, neighbours, colleagues, etc) would know William and the fosters, so the police and media haven't needed to name her. The police and media haven't even needed to say what evidence there is against her. Just the fact that police have questioned and possibly surveilled everyone she knows would be enough to give those other people ongoing worries and doubts that can't end until the police reveal their reasons for targetting FM, if they ever do. That might be a necessary part of every police investigation, but to me it does seem particularly cruel whenever it continues without resolution for years.

 

[Lady O]

I've finally got a chance to listen to the podcast. At 18.30, WT's 3rd birthday, only 3 months before he disappears, he speaks. I seem to remember at 3yo my son was speaking quite clearly, even though he had "glue ear" and mispronounced/or misheard a lot of words, his speech was a lot more advanced than WT's, who sounds more like 2yo. Odd for a child who has attended day care since he was quite young.

Has WT been damaged in utero by his mother's drug use? Any evidence that this can cause long term effects on a fetus as in the case of alcoholic mothers?

 

[Wallace52]

I've finally got a chance to listen to the podcast. At 18.30, WT's 3rd birthday, only 3 months before he disappears, he speaks. I seem to remember at 3yo my son was speaking quite clearly, even though he had "glue ear" and mispronounced/or misheard a lot of words, his speech was a lot more advanced than WT's, who sounds more like 2yo. Odd for a child who has attended day care since he was quite young.

Has WT been damaged in utero by his mother's drug use? Any evidence that this can cause long term effects on a fetus as in the case of alcoholic mothers?

He was never diagnosed with FASD. We don’t know that mum consumed alcohol whilst pregnant.

 

[Lady O]

He was never diagnosed with FASD. We don’t know that mum consumed alcohol whilst pregnant.

drugs?

Edit: "The court ordered William be taken from his biological parents, Brendan Collins and Karlie Tyrrell, in February 2012, when he was seven months old. The NSW government Department of Family and Community Services (FaCS) had raised concerns about domestic violence and substance abuse within William’s family, the court heard."

 

[Lady O]

This is from an American study, and they admit it isn't as precise as the alcohol and nicotine studies over many years.

"Measuring the precise effects of a substance used during pregnancy on a child is difficult since children who are exposed to one substance are often exposed to multiple substances,” said Felix.


Further, she notes that women who use substances during pregnancy often have other risk factors including low socioeconomic status, poor living conditions, poor prenatal care, and their own cognitive, emotional or behavioral problems. These all contribute to neurocognitive and psychological outcomes in their children."

How Do Drugs Affect a Baby's Development During Pregnancy?

Alcohol, nicotine, marijuana, and other drugs can hurt the development of a baby's brain. Understand the risks of using these substances during pregnancy.

samhealth.org

 

[31550]

It's quite likely that William and L both had developmental challenges. Almost all children who go into care do. Is it really relevant? William is the victim here.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Biometric data of William Tyrrell.

I know most members find this tedious but I think it's important to show you because it helps either confirm the Iconic photos of WT were correct for his age or they were taken at a much earlier date.

Because we have multiple photos of WT to compare to the iconic photos, we can examine them to see whether his body and head and arms are in the same proportions. They should be.

In the iconic photos (plural) his head is much larger than other photos in proportion to his body and arms. It's not even close. This essentially more evidence the iconic photos of WT were taken at a much younger age. Essentially his body and arms have not grown yet compared to this photo. He is measurably older in this image.
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I haven't included his arms here but they are similar.

A difference this big cannot be explained by photography or him being a little hunched over. The iconic photos are taken a long time prior.

When you hunch down when seated two things happen. The head drops and back arches.. it also is more difficult to create an accurate line measurement. These things CAN influence the math of your conclusions. I don't think you can get a scientific measure to advance conclusions. No matter how many times you say so if the testing process is flawed then the results are too.

I have zero confidence in your results.. From purely observation point of view in the roar shot his face appears to be of an older child. That's my take

Put an upright standing child side by side in the same shot at the same point of observation you might get somewhere. We don't have that and never will

 

[Lady O]

It's quite likely that William and L both had developmental challenges. Almost all children who go into care do. Is it really relevant? William is the victim here.

It could be relevant.

If his behaviour was such that he was a danger to himself or others, he would have most likely required more attention and supervision as he got older, thus the reason FM was asking for more hours at day care.

If he was seen to have behaviour that was getting worse not better (and I think that was what was happening), he may also have had a lifelong impairment. Not too many people would choose to have a child with a mental impairment and in the case of the fosters, they had this choice. Perhaps they were having second thoughts about adopting WT?