Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[31550]

I guess 9.30pm is after 8.30pm.
This is quite different to saying it is 9.00pm
Now look at the Leah Harris podcast who says it was 9.30pm.

I am not sure this has cleared up any discrepancy.

OMG read the damn book.
Heather Savage says it was between 8:30pm and 9:00pm.

Lea Harris was not there. Where did SHE get 9:30 from? Ask her, not people here who have done the research.

There is no discrepancy. It's just shoddy reporting.

 

[truecrimepath]

Refuting nonsense is not being abusive. Like 7.30 photos, the wrong weather etc. Even this latest morsel from a local author is actually odds with what has been verified by police. What did the old lady see, something after 8.30 pm. Very obtuse and open to speculation.

What I have said consistently is ; Have the police checked cell data to know when they actually arrived. That is not even a theory, that is question whose correct answer influences the case. There are now three competing times between 8.30pm and 9.30 pm by three different authors as a result of different accounts by the Foster family.

 

[truecrimepath]

The eyes:
there is a light above the clothes line. As it was a bit dark IMO maybe it was on along with the other one on the other wall.

Good spotting, but the image is a line with a sharp edge and is facing more towards the yard in an upward direction. Its what you would expect from washing (sheets) The light is the direction he is looking at which is dark.

 

[Lady O]

Refuting nonsense is not being abusive. Like 7.30 photos, the wrong weather etc. Even this latest morsel from a local author is actually odds with what has been verified by police. What did the old lady see, something after 8.30 pm. Very obtuse and open to speculation.

What I have said consistently is ; Have the police checked cell data to know when they actually arrived. That is not even a theory, that is question whose correct answer influences the case. There are now three competing times between 8.30pm and 9.30 pm by three different authors as a result of different accounts by the Foster family.

It might surprise you to know that we do not have access to all the Police evidence. All we rely on is the very little that they tell us, what we read in the media and books and what has been given as evidence at the inquest.

To continually "refute" those who engage with you as talking "nonsense", when you have absolutely no more idea than the rest of us. Some might say you have significantly less idea.

We still do not know what you are trying to prove happened. Why don't you come right out with it, so we can either agree with your theory, or refute that as nonsense also?

 

[truecrimepath]

It might surprise you to know that we do not have access to all the Police evidence. All we rely on is the very little that they tell us, what we read in the media and books and what has been given as evidence at the inquest.

To continually "refute" those who engage with you as talking "nonsense", when you have absolutely no more idea than the rest of us. Some might say you have significantly less idea.

We still do not know what you are trying to prove happened. Why don't you come right out with it, so we can either agree with your theory, or refute that as nonsense also?

I don't know what happened, do you. I don't have a timeline or a scenario of what happened. I am concentrating on the reliability of the evidence because that is what will determine what happened. The only evidence we have in this case is the trip from McDonalds and the Photographs. Everything else in this case is opinion and relies on the vagaries of peoples memory. The FF statements which is the basis of every novel written about the case can't be taken as reliable. (none of it). A great earner for the authors, but that's about it.

Yesterday you still have not acknowledged the weather you posted was wrong. A weather report is a fact, it is not up for debate. I pointed out the problem with the website but you obstinately continue with repeating the same drivel without consideration of the alternative (weather station data). It may be difficult for you to admit you are wrong but I would have much more respect for your opinions if you would engage and admit you could be wrong. You ask a great question about time created for the photos but then don't engage in serious dialogue. The photos could not have been taken at 7.30 am as the verandah is in complete shadow. Did you respond to the photo I posted with the direction information. No of course not.

 

[Lady O]

I don't know what happened, do you. I don't have a timeline or a scenario of what happened. I am concentrating on the reliability of the evidence because that is what will determine what happened. The only evidence we have in this case is the trip from McDonalds and the Photographs. Everything else in this case is opinion and relies on the vagaries of peoples memory. The FF statements which is the basis of every novel written about the case can't be taken as reliable. (none of it). A great earner for the authors, but that's about it.

Yesterday you still have not acknowledged the weather you posted was wrong. A weather report is a fact, it is not up for debate. I pointed out the problem with the website but you obstinately continue with repeating the same drivel without consideration of the alternative (weather station data). It may be difficult for you to admit you are wrong but I would have much more respect for your opinions if you would engage and admit you could be wrong. You ask a great question about time created for the photos but then don't engage in serious dialogue. The photos could not have been taken at 7.30 am as the verandah is in complete shadow. Did you respond to the photo I posted with the direction information. No of course not.

See, this is why people don't want to engage with you. BBM above. You have no more idea than us, but you continue to sprout your own evaluation to be true and correct, and rudely dismiss anyone or anything that doesn't agree. This is YOUR opinion, not mine. So I'm just putting you on ignore so I don't tell you exactly what I think and thus get banned!!

 

[31550]

three different authors

Lea Harris is hardly an 'author'.
Overington is an award winning journalist.
Chumley is a well-researched and well-connected writer intimately familiar with the locality and its residents.

Their research is based on extensive interviews with stakeholders.

You are using one throwaway line from Harris to categorically state that the arrival time was 9:30pm. This time has no witness or attribution to back it up. All the other official sources indicate an arrival time of around 9pm.

Maybe the arrival time was after 9pm. It's possible, but proves nothing. But to make matters worse, you extend this probably incorrect assumption to a fantastic theory that somehow William never made it to Kendall and that everything that happened after McDonald's was part of an elaborate conspiracy which has fooled police, experts, the media and the public for 10 years. Without one shred of direct evidence to back it up.

And we still haven't heard the details of this theory. Only that William never made it and the photos are fake. But then where is William? Where did they leave him? How is it he has never been found?

Maybe you are the only sane person in a world gone mad? Or maybe it's the other way around?

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Refuting nonsense is not being abusive. Like 7.30 photos, the wrong weather etc. Even this latest morsel from a local author is actually odds with what has been verified by police. What did the old lady see, something after 8.30 pm. Very obtuse and open to speculation.

What I have said consistently is ; Have the police checked cell data to know when they actually arrived. That is not even a theory, that is question whose correct answer influences the case. There are now three competing times between 8.30pm and 9.30 pm by three different authors as a result of different accounts by the Foster family.

‘Where’s the red?’: Mum’s frantic search

William Tyrrell’s foster mother broke down while describing the frantic moments after William vanished and she desperately searched for him in his Spider Man suit.

www.news.com.au

The foster parents had arrived at 9pm on September 11, 2014 put the kids to bed, and she had discussed the fact that her mother’s washing machine needed fixing.

William Tyrrell's known final movements - 9News

The final known movements of missing NSW toddler William Tyrrell have been recounted by his mother at the f...

www.9news.com.au

They arrived at 9pm on September 11 and put the children to bed, no one including the foster grandmother had advance knowledge they would leave Sydney at that time.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/new-images-back-foster-parents-william-tyrrell-timeline/news-story/be4429df14a607e13753a4b9175da358?amp

The family arrived at Kendall, on the mid-north coast of NSW, at around 9pm.


I'm also sure that the police checked the movements of the Foster Family on that trip up to Kendall, after all the s got the Macca's footage.

And surely, in the past few years , if William never made it to Kendall than the Foster Daughter I'm sure would have spoken up .

Do you have a link handy to the time stamp where Lia says they arrived @ 9:30??

 

[truecrimepath]

Catch light is any light the eye catches, natural or not. There are examples of square catch lights if taken indoors and light is through a window. I didn't say the light on his tongue is from the pot plant. It corresponds to the direction of the light in his eyes.
Maybe there was some other artificial light?

There is definitely a secondary light source. When I say a light box, what I mean is a brightly lit object. Like white car in the yard or a white sheet in sun.etc. I agree it's the same direction, it's just that the pot plant is further over to the right. I considered the verandah post as well but it looks too square rather than a line.

I meant to show you the reflection in the window of the roof structure but It did not download. It appears to be bright. The inside of the timber work is lit up (big arrow) Trying to work out under what circumstance that can occur. I was wondering whether its a reflection off the same light source that can be seen in Williams eyes? Is it reflection from the bright wall.

 

[31550]

Do you have a link handy to the time stamp where Lia says they arrived @ 9:30??

I'll save TCP the trouble. It's in her latest podcast. Apparently that is the 'gold standard' when it comes to evidence on this case

 

[alwaysintrigued]

I'll save TCP the trouble. It's in her latest podcast. Apparently that is the 'gold standard' when it comes to evidence on this case

Thank You. As far as I re-call it was always around 9pm.

 

[truecrimepath]

‘Where’s the red?’: Mum’s frantic search

William Tyrrell’s foster mother broke down while describing the frantic moments after William vanished and she desperately searched for him in his Spider Man suit.

www.news.com.au

The foster parents had arrived at 9pm on September 11, 2014 put the kids to bed, and she had discussed the fact that her mother’s washing machine needed fixing.

William Tyrrell's known final movements - 9News

The final known movements of missing NSW toddler William Tyrrell have been recounted by his mother at the f...

www.9news.com.au

They arrived at 9pm on September 11 and put the children to bed, no one including the foster grandmother had advance knowledge they would leave Sydney at that time.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/new-images-back-foster-parents-william-tyrrell-timeline/news-story/be4429df14a607e13753a4b9175da358?amp

The family arrived at Kendall, on the mid-north coast of NSW, at around 9pm.


I'm also sure that the police checked the movements of the Foster Family on that trip up to Kendall, after all the s got the Macca's footage.

And surely, in the past few years , if William never made it to Kendall than the Foster Daughter I'm sure would have spoken up .

Do you have a link handy to the time stamp where Lia says they arrived @ 9:30??

I will get it for you. Where's William Tyrrell podcast. The little Boy in the Spiderman Suit. Channel 10.

'Some of the interview sections in this podcast are from Lia's 2019 interview, some sections are from an interview released to the media in 2015.'

This was the podcast that was subpoenaed including the images and notes.

Listen from about 25 minutes to go. 9.30 pm. Reading from the police statement in the section prior if you want to look a bit earlier.

 

[BFew]

Maybe you are the only sane person in a world gone mad? Or maybe it's the other way around?

Even if this is meant to be funny, it's not.

 

[31550]

I will get it for you. Where's William Tyrrell podcast. The little Boy in the Spiderman Suit. Channel 10.

'Some of the interview sections in this podcast are from Lia's 2019 interview, some sections are from an interview released to the media in 2015.'

This was the podcast that was subpoenaed including the images and notes.

Listen from about 25 minutes to go. 9.30 pm. Reading from the police statement in the section prior if you want to look a bit earlier.