Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[js47]

Wallace, so we don’t know who it is?
Some suggest FD?

 

[stormbird]

Well, we know that this truck driver's eye witness account is not what sent hundreds of cops with shovels and excavators back to Batar Creek Road.

Yes. None of this makes sense. Is it possible the police could be hiding what they're really doing and have created the biggest distraction story ever? Has that ever been done?

 

[Kurve]

Why would the fosters want the truck driver there?

To point at someone else and make the cops look stupid.

If he did not see her it is a fairly good indication she was not there because the other drivers did not see her. It takes a bit of time to load equipment.

He could have missed her, if she was there but the cops think she was because they spent millions digging up Batar Creek Road and sending divers in to the creek. There's a lot of risks in that work.

 

[Kurve]

Yes. None of this makes sense. Is it possible the police could be hiding what they're really doing and have created the biggest distraction story ever? Has that ever been done?

Could be. There might be a hidden informant somewhere.

Her brothers and sister have been laying real low. The sister was there the next day then .. nothing. It seems.

 

[Underarrest_]

Could be. There might be a hidden informant somewhere.

Her brothers and sister have been laying real low.

Yes and could have come out after FGM died.
I can’t imagine FGM being able to keep this huge secret from everyone.

 

[Wallace52]

Could be. There might be a hidden informant somewhere.

Her brothers and sister have been laying real low. The sister was there the next day then .. nothing. It seems.

Good1 Kurve.

I’m holding out hope for some answers. If there is a hidden informant, their life may very well be in danger. IMO

I’m waiting for a Daniel Morecombe inquest style twist….. just patiently waiting.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Why is he even a witness? Don't see any connection unless it's the person (woman) not the car..so there was perhaps multiple people driving multiple cars all trying to kill time waiting for....a snatch? Or hand over?

Things swings back to Bio links. dId Dan box not find KT?

Curious that ALL the photos on verandah seem to be of W as though they knew he wouldn't be there and wanted some final snaps. Damn. Another twist

At one stage I was trying to look at family links of Bio's and there was a picture of them at court I recall. A sister too which side I can't remember

 

[Wallace52]

To point at someone else and make the cops look stupid.



He could have missed her, if she was there but the cops think she was because they spent millions digging up Batar Creek Road and sending divers in to the creek. There's a lot of risks in that work.

But how did the police even get a warrant and agreement from the higher ups to action that recent search? Just how?

It had to be based on some solid information because that is a lot of digging and a lot of money to be based on a hunch or a theory.

They risked people’s lives to dive into those creeks, as you said. It’s very risky. They would have had to to a cost/benefit analysis of some kind, surely, and a risk assessment.

IMHO

 

[Underarrest_]

But how did the police even get a warrant and agreement from the higher ups to action that recent search? Just how?

It had to be based on some solid information because that is a lot of digging and a lot of money to be based on a hunch or a theory.

They risked people’s lives to dive into those creeks, as you said. It’s very risky. They would have had to to a cost/benefit analysis of some kind, surely, and a risk assessment.

IMHO

Goes back to FM saying, dig it up then (or words to that affect.)
Over confident. Little did she know it would at least eliminate that William was there for the cops.

 

[31550]

I wonder if/what the lady bought from the op shop.

Get Lia onto that.

 

[Wallace52]

Has anyone seen this woman in the courtroom today? Was she banned or charged?

 

[Wallace52]

Things swings back to Bio links. dId Dan box not find KT?

No, he didn’t find the bio mother. He must not have been looking in the right places!

She is around; it’s not like she’s a missing person or anything! But I don’t blame her for staying out of the media circus.

 

[31550]

Why would the fosters want the truck driver there?
If he did not see her it is a fairly good indication she was not there because the other drivers did not see her. It takes a bit of time to load equipment.
WHAT TIME WAS HE THERE? Why didn’t DC find that out?

It really is the obvious question. Did they ask the person with the digger what time it was picked up? Did Peter keep any log book? If he drove at 40km/h he was on that section of road for a few minutes, and would have potentially been seen by others. Also he should be on the tennis club CCTV - what time does the truck with the excavator pass the tennis club CCTV? WTF have Rosann been investigating for the last TEN YEARS? The time the truck with the excavator is on BCR cannot intersect with when FM took her drive. So, when was it?

 

[31550]

Has anyone seen this woman in the courtroom today? Was she banned or charged?

Not sure she was ever in court, just outside.
In any case, has she committed any crime? NPOs do not cover the general public calling out stuff in the street to random people - they are about 'publishing'. AFAIK this woman didn't make public anything, just expressed an opinion. Could possibly charge her with harassment I guess but where would that go?

 

[Wallace52]

Not sure she was ever in court, just outside.
In any case, has she committed any crime? NPOs do not cover the general public calling out stuff in the street to random people - they are about 'publishing'. AFAIK this woman didn't make public anything, just expressed an opinion. Could possibly charge her with harassment I guess but where would that go?

Oh, she was in court observing the Inquest at some point on Monday. I know that photograph is taken outside of court, but she was in court.

 

[31550]

But how did the police even get a warrant and agreement from the higher ups to action that recent search? Just how?

It had to be based on some solid information because that is a lot of digging and a lot of money to be based on a hunch or a theory.

They risked people’s lives to dive into those creeks, as you said. It’s very risky. They would have had to to a cost/benefit analysis of some kind, surely, and a risk assessment.

IMHO

At the request of the coroner.
I imagine the coroner asked the police if they had covered all theories, and the response was that they covered everything except an accident/coverup. So the coroner said, "Well go and confirm that there was no accident and cover up by the FM. Dig up the garden. She drove down BCR - perhaps there's some evidence down there too." Then I'll know we've covered all possibilities and I can wrap this up.

 

[js47]

The truck driver may have only been asked specific questions at the inquest. What if some of his interview has been with held?
Are the police really that stupid? I don’t think so it let’s hope not.

 

[Kurve]

But how did the police even get a warrant and agreement from the higher ups to action that recent search? Just how?

It had to be based on some solid information because that is a lot of digging and a lot of money to be based on a hunch or a theory.

They risked people’s lives to dive into those creeks, as you said. It’s very risky. They would have had to to a cost/benefit analysis of some kind, surely, and a risk assessment.

IMHO

Peter the truck driver was a red herring, there must be something else going on. imo.

 

[31550]

Peter the truck driver was a red herring, there must be something else going on. imo.

Not even a red herring. More of a pilchard or a guppy.

 

[js47]

I hope the coroner didn’t mean she will wrap up the inquest because of BCR results does she?
What an irresponsible request.
Why didn’t the police just sit FM down at the CC and say we will have to sit here till you tell us the time of the drive/s and how long you were there. We have a statement from the truck driver. I guess I am nieve.

 

[31550]

I should hope not.

I would say it’s the sister. The smoking gun.

Didn’t the police say they were acting on specific information? Not speculative at all…

That’s what they said leading into the big search.

Specific information might simply be the FM saying she drove her mother's car down BCR. No smoking gun witness.
Obviously if they are (finally) pursuing the cover-up angle, this drive is the ideal opportunity (possibly the only opportunity) to dispose of a body and/or other evidence.
Say 'something' happens between 9:45 and 10:00. FM bundles William into the boot of the FGM car, tells FGM she thinks William may have gone to look for FF, just popping down to look for him, watch L and make a cup of tea or two ... drives down BCR ... WAY down BCR where the bush is thick, could be waterways etc. by the side of the road. Maybe a 5 minute drive gets her 5km away - well beyond the search area. 10 minutes hiding William. 5 minutes back. She doesn't see any other cars and nobody sees her - Then coming back she gets stuck behind 'Peter' weaving across the road doing 40kmh near the riding school. He doesn't see her - she's behind him, but she worries he might have seen her so she works his 'semitrailer' into the narrative. She arrives home around the same time as the 'home in 5'. FD asks where is William, "Oh, he's gone to look for Daddy's car". Sits down, drinks still-warm tea. FF arrives home. "Have you got William?" (Because I told L he'd gone to look for you).

 

[31550]

Yes. None of this makes sense. Is it possible the police could be hiding what they're really doing and have created the biggest distraction story ever? Has that ever been done?

Wow what a cunning plan One opportunity to present ten years of investigation and you lead the coroner on a wild goose chase!

 

[truecrimepath]

Well, we know that this truck driver's eye witness account is not what sent hundreds of cops with shovels and excavators back to Batar Creek Road.

I can’t believe the police have acted in this tenuous evidence. If they have they need to be sacked.

 

[js47]

Well the truck driver did not see her.
So the truck story is a lie IMO.
Where did she go in the car?
The FGM may have mentioned that the excavator was being picked up by a truck. She kept her thumb on the Kendal pulse.
How thorough was the neighbours house examined? Did the Pol have a search warrant to enter the premises?

 

[31550]

Well the truck driver did not see her.
So the truck story is a lie IMO.
Where did she go in the car?
The FGM may have mentioned that the excavator was being picked up by a truck. She kept her thumb on the Kendal pulse.
How thorough was the neighbours house examined? Did the Pol have a search warrant to enter the premises?

All the neighbours co-operated completely with the police. Even the ones FGM pointed the finger at. If any of them didn't they would have just drawn attention to themselves.