Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[Angry Red Bull]

It’s like posters are on here to control the narrative and mislead. You wonder who you are talking to sometimes.

Yes and ALL of them are delusional thinking that W died on the 12th.......

 

[31550]

No, I would pick up on that if it was the case.

How have I managed to fool you for so long?

 

[Awakening]

Well I was there and no such confirmation was made.

I’m lying. I was not there. But I wanted to show that anyone can come on here and say anything.

I’m also blonde, slim and very attractive.

 

[Kurve]

How have I managed to fool you for so long?

LOL you didn't. I just don't always say what I know.

 

[js47]

Don't you see that you only think that because you are biased in the other direction?

Those who are convinced FM hid the body, have come to the end of this inquest with not much to hang their hats on. When people are relying on poorly worded phrases or odd third person conversations, you know there is a fair bit of straw clutching going on.

The point of the inquest was to reinforce the police case, preferably with at least a skerrick of hard evidence. There is no direct evidence whatsoever to support their belief. How can there be no evidence when she had such a small window of opportunity, with no prior planning, and a number of people in the immediate vicinity that she would have had to hide it from?

She would have to be the most quick-thinking criminal mastermind ever to pull it off. The fact that she is easily confused under questioning, cries when pressured, is still uncertain about the order of events - suggests she is anything but a composed criminal mastermind. It would be more concerning if every answer was perfect. It's much easier to come up with perfect answers sitting in front of a computer with time to think. If, after a decade, she started producing more suitable answers, it would look contrived and she would be criticised for it.

It is the sort of case where you can interpret her behaviour to suit your viewpoint. That is where the evidence comes in. They started with none and have wasted a lot of time, effort and money to get to this point, where they still have none.

At least some one has a view point. And there are a lot of people who support those viewpoints.

 

[js47]

The police case to this point is nonsense. I agree people are clutching every nuance of her testimony and are turning an anthill into a mountain.

The only aspect I see as important is the warm bonnet and that she omitted the drive in her first statement. I think this is the only red flag imho.

We have two weeks of hearings in December. Are we going to hear any real evidence? As others have suggested are they clearing the decks? I guess we will have to wait a month.

Oh Please! Give me a break. Who is tenaciously hanging on to their theories the dive up flower pots sunlight. Come on

 

[js47]

How many photos are there of him with a black eye. The iconic photo does not have a black eye.

Oh now we will hear pages of black eye theories.

 

[truecrimepath]

The FM I've noticed, cries when she's confronted with evidence that may be incriminating.

I don't like that statement she made about finding a skeleton in a clearing, it's very specific. Too specific. From her position, she's put forward an abduction from the beginning and he was moved out of the area. Why would she assume he'd be found as a skeleton in a clearing?

Not conclusive of course but my spideys twitched when I read it.

People who are really upset, can’t talk. I have 35 years experience in breaking bad news to people. When I have listened to her on the podcasts, I get the impression there is no inflections in her voice that you expect in people who are grieving. What I see sets alarm bells off in me as well. Not proof of anything though.

 

[Wallace52]

People who are really upset, can’t talk. I have 35 years experience in breaking bad news to people. When I have listened to her on the podcasts, I get the impression there is no inflections in her voice that you expect in people who are grieving. What I see sets alarm bells off in me as well. Not proof of anything though.

Spot on. Her affect is really off. And her affect is off in real life too. AFAIK

 

[truecrimepath]

Oh now we will hear pages of black eye theories.

No , I was just checking when he had his black eye and whether a photo was available.

Had to make sure he had a black eye before he was locked in the safe. We have certainly seen lots about PNG safe for god sake.

 

[Lady O]

If you take a drive, via Google Maps, down BCR a little past Cobb & Co rd, you will see there is a little watercourse crossing the road. If you go back and take yourself down C&Co Rd, there is a spot with a grassy area off the road, that runs close to that little stream. I think that was the area where the big dig was in 2021. Very easy to pull off the road and carry something (in a Bunnings bag) a short way to the watercourse. There is lots of rubbish washes up in there in heavy rain.

 

[Wallace52]

Had to make sure he had a black eye before he was locked in the safe. We have certainly seen lots about PNG safe for god sake.

1) There is no evidence anyone was locked in a safe

2) Dan Box went public with the passenger cards in his episode about the foster parents.

It’s reasonable for people to mention it as it’s been published by MSM.

Is it relevant to the case? Probably not but who knows?!

 

[js47]

I thought you were old like me?

I remember the good old days, when journalists were held to very high standards, and even a minor typo or spelling error was frowned on.

It was strictly facts that were reported and a journalists opinion was never hinted at, unless it was clearly marked an opinion piece.

That’s why we don’t buy newspapers any more

 

[Angry Red Bull]

If you take a drive, via Google Maps, down BCR a little past Cobb & Co rd, you will see there is a little watercourse crossing the road. If you go back and take yourself down C&Co Rd, there is a spot with a grassy area off the road, that runs close to that little stream. I think that was the area where the big dig was in 2021. Very easy to pull off the road and carry something (in a Bunnings bag) a short way to the watercourse. There is lots of rubbish washes up in there in heavy rain.

Yes ive looked the whole way down there. I will go again.

 

[js47]

Agree. But there does appear to be foot access, and it's only a very short distance between the end of Ellendale and the open part of the cemetery, to which there is easy vehicle access from the main entrance.
It would seem if someone entered from Ellendale with William, they would need to hide him temporarily somewhere close by and move him later, or hand him over to someone with a vehicle, or both.

Late at night early morning

 

[js47]

I had suggested that the bike riding only surfaced in the WWT podcast. It was countered that it was IN the original statement. Seems that I was right it was only later in WWT podcast..not mentioned by FGM either though podcast says she watched..

Someone had mentioned that bike riding was somehow confirmed at around 9 ish to my saying we didn't know when. If that is correct then they were bike riding close to time FF left 8.40 and FGM seemingly there watching BUT in circumstances she has said he wasn't there at all when she got up. WHAMMY!!!! LIE

I remain convinced FF hit W in his car and he died after 9.2O when they didn't take him to hospital originally.

Whoops 9.37 now lol

SFR subpoenaed that material because it was relevant to case probably to confirm lie.....the bike riding omission

Bike ride and green car reinforces theory of possible abduction ‘who is that Mummy’? William crashed his bike did any one check its condition?

 

[31550]

Bike ride and green car reinforces theory of possible abduction ‘who is that Mummy’? William crashed his bike did any one check its condition?

What would be the point? If it was undamaged it was not damaged in the deliberate crash. If it was damaged, the damage might have occurred any time earlier.
Would be better off inspecting the vehicles and the FM hand injury. Also the bush where FM claimed to have injured her hand.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Grief can manifest in different ways. Everyone is different. That said, about 10% only carry grief of a lost partner for life..94% carry grief of a lost child. More profound but less as non biological parent imo.. When you listen to Peter Hyatt he makes some interesting observations about parent perpetrators of children who died..he says often they try to explain problems with the child in subtle ways as though it softens their role..things like....
he was was too hard to handle or oppositional..etc ....their role becomes explicable almost in context. There is also often misdirection of the grief at what THEY the parent are experiencing rather than what peril the child is experiencing..Subtle changes but important. I've listened to her many times. Her grief is profound but I admit more often than not it's what she is experiencing rather than what W is/ was. Just my personal opinion. But cunning and manipulative as ever she knows how she should respond so tries

 

[js47]

It’s like posters are on here to control the narrative and mislead. You wonder who you are talking to sometimes.

Yes we do TCP

 

[Angry Red Bull]

What would be the point? If it was undamaged it was not damaged in the deliberate crash. If it was damaged, the damage might have occurred any time earlier.
Would be better off inspecting the vehicles and the FM hand injury. Also the bush where FM claimed to have injured her hand.

It was mentioned here I think she fell on driveway or something

 

[js47]

No , I was just checking when he had his black eye and whether a photo was available.

Had to make sure he had a black eye before he was locked in the safe. We have certainly seen lots about PNG safe for god sake.

So TCP where do you think he is?
Glad you are listening.

 

[31550]

It was mentioned here I think she fell on driveway or something

I think it would have been useful forensic evidence to examine the wound to confirm her narrative. Surprised and disappointed this wasn't done.

 

[truecrimepath]

So TCP where do you think he is?
Glad you are listening.

No idea. Could be anywhere depending on what happened.

possibilities:

If 9.37 photo is true. He was abducted. I just don’t see the time available as being large enough for other options. The police scenario does not stack up imho.

If the 9.37 photos were faked. (As I believe), Then what happened probably happened prior to 7.30 that day. That’s the time the photo was created.

That leaves an enormous time gap between McDonalds Heatherbrae at 6.40pm to probably 7.30 am.

There is literally no evidence for me or anyone else to say what happened. Whether an accident or otherwise.

In my mind the evidence to this is still not clarified. Do the police want to look at the physical aspects of the Photos? It would very embarrassing for them if they confirmed that after 10 years and so much fuss that they did not do the most essential of assessments. Given that we have seen nothing in this regard presented while Dave the Truck driver and the blonde lady in the fat suit are given a day in the spotlight, I think they want this to just go away.

Never underestimate a beauracracy defending itself.