Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Nothing in the podcast at all about the photos. I think this podcast is quite good.

Listen again.

Listen from approx 7min 15 secs

 

[alwaysintrigued]

The only advice I should give is be aware of where you tread. There are a few massive rabbit holes you might disappear down if not careful. No names

Huh?

I'm well aware of the NPO's

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Huh?

I'm well aware of the NPO's

No, some people here who may try to convince you that radical unlikely theory is fact

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Here is another direct quote about the photos.

FM was shown the photo of WT "roaring"

SC : " You see William in this one @ 09:37, what they had worked out was the timing of when the photos were taken"

SC " We accept that as the last point of reference. Logical starting point"

SC "The last photo"

 

[Lady O]

The only advice I should give is be aware of where you tread. There are a few massive rabbit holes you might disappear down if not careful. No names

Yep, watch out for the enormous rabbits as well.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

No, some people here who may try to convince you that radical unlikely theory is fact

Yep, watch out for the enormous rabbits as well.

Thanks, but I'm not stupid, well i don't think I am.

I can think for myself.

I've been following this case all along & have been to all inquest days except maybe 3 or 4

 

[BFew]

A lot of the questions were centered around when the last photo was taken, which was stated @ 9:37, the famous "roar" photo.

Just maybe if the NSW CC was/is uncertain when the photos were actually taken, for the 2 day questioning of the FM, they asked them on the assumption that they were correct?

Is it possible that other questioning of the FM and/or FF in front of the NSW CC was specifically in relation to the photos time/date and/or the cameras claimed to have been used to take them, but that this (the FM bit) was edited out of what was shown in the Coroner Court yesterday?

Could that Dan Box's latest William Tyrrell podcast Ep5 has nothing to say about the photos or the camera from any of the inquest hearings this week, be indicative of there being a Non-disclosure Order related to this, and/or the Coroners Court team being requested to not even mention anything regarding any uncertainty about the timing of the claimed proof of life photos in Open Court (or even closed Court too)?

 

[Wallace52]

Sophie Callan SC

Correct, the coroner has already denied re-calling her. Told Mr Casselden SC for NSWPF to make another application. The same with Mr Meek

Correct

No explanation given. But Clearly they were working on the time from the last photo taken @ 9:37am 12/9/2014

Looking forward to it too.

There were many questions. I have you one example. I don't think the NSW CC would be putting incorrect information to the witness. Again, the photos are correct

Sorry I was not able to reply, I have a life, work & sleep. This is the first time I've been back on the forum

Off Misty Way Logan's Creek on the hill

Not correct. It's one week. 16 - 20th Dec 2014

Could of fooled me

No evidence has even been given about Male Foster washing his car that I know of

True. It has like huge speed humps. A police car actually got stuck the first day.

I believe he would have been found that day. It was extensively searched.

Nope. See above reply

Maybe "that" poster was at work & than sleeping, But is now awake & replying.


Correct

It is a fact

Great. Than you know the photos are correct!

Just me, I'm not anyone you think I might be ....geez

What I have posted is fact. But if this is the way I am treated , I just won't post anymore, no skin off my nose really.

Thanks









So, I think I have replied to you all, sorry you obviously missed me ( sarcasm )

Not sure I'll bother posting anymore as I clearly can't meet your demands in a timely fashion, or you try to ridicule me.

You’re awesome! Don’t be disheartened!!

 

[BFew]

Here is another direct quote about the photos.

FM was shown the photo of WT "roaring"

SC : " You see William in this one @ 09:37, what they had worked out was the timing of when the photos were taken"

SC " We accept that as the last point of reference. Logical starting point"

SC "The last photo"

Doesn't mean it was the correct starting point though.

 

[truecrimepath]

Sophie Callan SC

Correct, the coroner has already denied re-calling her. Told Mr Casselden SC for NSWPF to make another application. The same with Mr Meek

Correct

No explanation given. But Clearly they were working on the time from the last photo taken @ 9:37am 12/9/2014

Looking forward to it too.

There were many questions. I have you one example. I don't think the NSW CC would be putting incorrect information to the witness. Again, the photos are correct

Sorry I was not able to reply, I have a life, work & sleep. This is the first time I've been back on the forum

Off Misty Way Logan's Creek on the hill

Not correct. It's one week. 16 - 20th Dec 2014

Could of fooled me

No evidence has even been given about Male Foster washing his car that I know of

True. It has like huge speed humps. A police car actually got stuck the first day.

I believe he would have been found that day. It was extensively searched.

Nope. See above reply

Maybe "that" poster was at work & than sleeping, But is now awake & replying.


Correct

It is a fact

Great. Than you know the photos are correct!

Just me, I'm not anyone you think I might be ....geez

What I have posted is fact. But if this is the way I am treated , I just won't post anymore, no skin off my nose really.

Thanks









So, I think I have replied to you all, sorry you obviously missed me ( sarcasm )

Not sure I'll bother posting anymore as I clearly can't meet your demands in a timely fashion, or you try to ridicule me.

So you are talking about the crime commission. They are accusing the Foster mother . You still have not provided any evidence whatsoever for your statements. They could easily have fit it wrong like dumping the body at Batar creek road.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Just maybe if the NSW CC was/is uncertain when the photos were actually taken, for the 2 day questioning of the FM, they asked them on the assumption that they were correct?

I think if they knew the photos were incorrect, they would have had a field day with her about that!

Is it possible that other questioning of the FM and/or FF in front of the NSW CC was specifically in relation to the photos time/date and/or the cameras claimed to have been used to take them, but that this (the FM bit) was edited out of what was shown in the Coroner Court yesterday?

No

Could that Dan Box's latest William Tyrrell podcast Ep5 has nothing to say about the photos or the camera from any of the inquest hearings this week, be indicative of there being a Non-disclosure Order related to this, and/or the Coroners Court team being requested to not even mention anything regarding any uncertainty about the timing of the claimed proof of life photos in Open Court (or even closed Court too)?

He does talk about the photos briefly when Mr Craddock went thru the known facts on Monday.

There is no NPO over the photos

I realise you all would LOVE for the photo's to have been manipulated, they just weren't

Doesn't mean it was the correct starting point though.

It was for the questions being asked at that time

 

[BFew]

He does talk about the photos briefly when Mr Craddock went thru the known facts on Monday.

Were you at the inquest on Monday too?
Great if you were.
I should go back and have a look at the Monday reporting on this, which I possibly did not pay enough attention to.

 

[31550]

What I have posted is fact. But if this is the way I am treated , I just won't post anymore, no skin off my nose really.

My comment was not directed at you. Don't know why you are responding that way to it.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

So you are talking about the crime commission. They are accusing the Foster mother . You still have not provided any evidence whatsoever for your statements. They could easily have fit it wrong like dumping the body at Batar creek road.

Um yep, that's what we listened to all day yesterday, the video from the crime commission.

Sorry, next time I'll break all the rules of court & video & audio record the recording for you

 

[BFew]

Mr Craddock went thru the known facts on Monday.

Has anyone seen (in the media or on social media) or compiled a list (partial or complete) of the known facts that legal Craddock tabled on Monday at the Inquest (according to the above-quoted honourable poster)?

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Were you at the inquest on Monday too?
Great if you were.
I should go back and have a look at the Monday reporting on this, which I possibly did not pay enough attention to.

No only Wed & Thursday

 

[alwaysintrigued]

My comment was not directed at you. Don't know why you are responding that way to it.

Sorry I can see now what you meant. Apologies.

 

[31550]

Sorry I can see now what you meant. Apologies.

All good. No harm no foul.

 

[Underarrest_]

Has anyone seen (in the media or on social media) or compiled a list (partial or complete) of the known facts that legal Craddock tabled on Monday at the Inquest (according to the above-quoted poster?

Not a compiled list but I think most of Monday was about the searches.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Has anyone seen (in the media or on social media) or compiled a list (partial or complete) of the known facts that legal Craddock tabled on Monday at the Inquest (according to the above-quoted poster?

In today's Witness podcast Dan lists these as said by Craddock on Monday 4/11/24 at the opening again of the inquest.

Mr Craddock said these are the timings & things we can be certain off

1. The time the last photo of William was taken
2. The time the text message was sent by William's Foster father was sent
3. The time of the 000 call
4. The time of the first police officer arriving.
5. How different people's facebook posts can show that certain things were happening at certain times & certain people were where they said they were.
6. Talking about the search that was done that morning.

 

[BFew]

In today's Witness podcast Dan lists these as said by Craddock on Monday 4/11/24 at the opening again of the inquest.

1. The time the last photo of William was taken
2. The time the text message was sent by William's Foster father was sent
3. The time of the 000 call
4. The time of the first police officer arriving.
5. How different people's facebook posts can show that certain things were happening at certain times & certain people were where they said they were.
6. Talking about the search that was done that morning.

The omny version of the podcast has a transcript of it. (with original AI translation errors)
Here's the sections of this podcast transcript relevant to your above post.

Thanks for reminding me to look in this podcast I'd already eagerly listened to this arvo.
And to Dan Box and team for documenting the source info.

05:58 Speaker 1
No, nothing, it's been I said that Craddock's kind of loyally and scholarly.

He spent a lot of this morning talking about all the evidence that has been heard in the inquest before now years ago and emphasizing who was where and when and detail timings of that morning, and how we can be certain of what we know on the morning when William went missing, So the time the last photo of William was taken, the time a text message was sent by William's foster father, at the time of the Triple zero carps, the time of the first police officer arriving, how different people's Facebook posts can show that certain things were happening at certain times and certain people were where they said they were, and talking about the search that was done that morning.
...'

The Evidence | 5 - Witness: William Tyrrell

An inquest reveals what police have - and haven’t - found about William’s disappearance. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok...

omny.fm

 

[BFew]

No only Wed & Thursday

Hope you can make it to some of the 16-20 Dec 2024 Inquest hearing sessions too.

 

[truecrimepath]

The omny version of the podcast has a transcript of it. (with original AI translation errors)
Here's the sections of this podcast transcript relevant to your above post.

Thanks for reminding me to look in this podcast I'd already eagerly listened to this arvo.
And to Dan Box and team for documenting the source info.

05:58 Speaker 1
No, nothing, it's been I said that Craddock's kind of loyally and scholarly.

He spent a lot of this morning talking about all the evidence that has been heard in the inquest before now years ago and emphasizing who was where and when and detail timings of that morning, and how we can be certain of what we know on the morning when William went missing, So the time the last photo of William was taken, the time a text message was sent by William's foster father, at the time of the Triple zero carps, the time of the first police officer arriving, how different people's Facebook posts can show that certain things were happening at certain times and certain people were where they said they were, and talking about the search that was done that morning.
...'

The Evidence | 5 - Witness: William Tyrrell

An inquest reveals what police have - and haven’t - found about William’s disappearance. Witness: William Tyrrell is the new, landmark investigation from news.com.au. Read more and watch exclusive video content here Follow us on socials: Instagram: @newscomauhq Facebook: News.com.au TikTok...

omny.fm

If he has used electronic EXIF data he still could be wrong.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

If he has used electronic EXIF data he still could be wrong.

Maybe you should go to the next sitting days of the inquest in December & ask to argue your points with Mr Craddock & Coroner Harriett, I understand you said you sent them info, I gather they have looked at it.

You could also hear the evidence for yourself.

Or you could nominate yourself as an expert witness if you have the qualifications.

I don't think you'll get far thou.

 

[alwaysintrigued]

Hope you can make it to some of the 16-20 Dec 2024 Inquest hearing sessions too.

I plan too