Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 3 * Coroner's Hearings Concluded

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 2

Criminal charges:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?

 

[Underarrest_]

I think it was 31550 who did an analysis to prove 10.30 simply can’t have been the time of drive. It had to happen before the alarm was raised. I think the time of 10.08 to 10.13 was the time Crabbs heard the car calculated by SFR. Could be wrong but what I recall. That 5 minutes was mentioned

If you are a person who has a dead body you choose to hide you are not going to raise the alarm then hide the body. You are going to hide the body then when you are safe raise the alarm.

If I have misled I apologise

Yes I think this makes much more sense too.
Can’t work out why police are saying after neighbours were alerted.

 

[Earls Smother]

Yes I think this makes much more sense too.
Can’t work out why police are saying after neighbours were alerted.

Not that I agree with them, but it provides an explanation (for the neighbours, in the eyes of the police) as to why she was driving - to look for William.

If the neighbours saw her drive and then she came back and said "William is missing", it would have looked more suspicious to the neighbours.

I know it sounds a bit arse-about, but the police are speculating that she is providing a reason (false in their eyes) for driving, before actually doing the driving. She would have been seen driving (or at least assumed she would), so if she was guilty of committing an offence, she would have wanted to appear to be driving for a legitimate reason.

 

[js47]

Isn’t this the theory they’ve put to the Coroner.

If it isn’t, then why do they keep bringing it up?

 

[js47]

I read the article in the Daily Mail by Candice Sutton
21 January 2024, William’s Final Hours.
This article in one part talks about the neighbours and FM.
……quizzed the FM concedes, ‘…it must have been by myself’…’ and I got in Mum’s….’
Interesting read.may be protected by copywrite.

 

[31550]

William Tyrrell inquest: foster mother abused outside court after police allege she may have buried toddler

Counsel assisting warns ‘fairness is deserved by all’ after inquest hears foster mother may have disposed of three-year-old’s body following accidental death in 2014

www.theguardian.com

Craddock on Monday opened the fifth round of the inquest by stating police now believed the boy’s foster mother found him deceased after a fall from the balcony of the grandmother’s Kendall property.

Only this from the media of what was said in the Coroners
court.

Craddock may have said this.
I still don't think police have ever formally alleged (as opposed to suggested), a balcony fall.

 

[31550]

The answer will fall out when enough pieces of the puzzle are gathered. I don’t know how you gather those extra pieces absent some breakthrough or the body.

Sometimes you need to look at what you have already assembled, and then realise that you have put the pieces together incorrectly. Possibly toss out a couple of pieces that don't belong. Just because two pieces seem to fit, doesn't make that the only possible solution.
There are some pieces which have been put back in the box because someone thought, "that can't POSSIBLY be right", - maybe it's time to take those pieces out of the box and look at them under a spotlight?

 

[js47]

Does Cain’s Jaw Bone ring a bell?

 

[Underarrest_]

I still don't think police have ever formally alleged (as opposed to suggested), a balcony fall.

Suggested?
No wonder this case hasn’t been solved.
Police need a bit more than suggestions.
I hope there’s a bit more weight than their suggestion to Frank Abbott that he lured William with lollies.

 

[DropBearess]

Sometimes l feel we're going around in circles here, going over the same old; probably because we're all bored waiting for justice which may never happen.

I really admire the posters who can sort the timing and algorithms of that messy morning, given the dubious input of three adults who seemingly can't agree on a single thing. Here is some factual stuff which may help our brains trust establish how far William could have walked, if indeed he survived outside the property:-

I live in a rural township and was recently asked to mind a 2.6 year old while his parents attended to an emergency 1km away, euthanising and burying a pet. He didn't know me well and became very distressed, wanting his mother. I didn't have a suitable car seat, so l walked him home as a distraction, knowing it would be over by then. He was a little man on a mission, small for his age, wearing a nappy. He power-walked exactly 1km in 15 minutes; l measured the distance today. The terrain was bitumen, turning into gravel, then dirt, all with dodgy footpaths, if at all. At least 10 cars passed us in a town much smaller than Kendall. I hope this helps in terms of distance William could have covered.

My second observation relates to kids William's age in terms of my experience over 40 years. I
have worked with literally hundreds of them in city and rural placements from teaching, family support, crisis intervention, special needs, police intervention, psychological counselling; the whole shebang. I've worked in rural areas where cows kick kids while giving birth, sheepdogs knock them to the ground and 12 year olds throw hay bales much heavier than themselves. I've trained Aussie Rules rules players of all ages for 20 years but l've never seen a kid William's age with a black eye.

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