Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell * The foster mother has been recommended for charges of pervert the course of justice & interfere with a corpse

[Kurve]

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[BFew]

I have it ...

Now we know who borrowed it from the Seven Library
Please promptly return it b4 the due back date.

 

[kat1234]

In the episode “Repercussions”, Foster mother said that someone rang the foster fathers workplace, and told the receptionist that he was a murderer.

- Where’s William? Podcast
Channel 10

 

[Kurve]

In the episode “Repercussions”, Foster mother said that someone rang the foster fathers workplace, and told the receptionist that he was a murderer.

- Where’s William? Podcast
Channel 10

He's got a big problem if the police can prove he's lied about anything on the day William went missing, either before he left for his meeting, through the timeline he's put forward of his movements and who he spoke to etc from the time he left to the time he got back to Benaroon Drive, or after.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

In the episode “Repercussions”, Foster mother said that someone rang the foster fathers workplace, and told the receptionist that he was a murderer.

- Where’s William? Podcast
Channel 10

But no, their names shouldn’t be suppressed…

 

[kat1234]

He's got a big problem if the police can prove he's lied about anything on the day William went missing, either before he left for his meeting, through the timeline he's put forward of his movements and who he spoke to etc from the time he left to the time he got back to Benaroon Drive, or after.

Yes because it would obliterate the accident theory.

 

[kat1234]

But no, their names shouldn’t be suppressed…

I think they will face more issues if they ever go to jail they would in the community.

But the suppression is to protect LT who is in no danger apart from the danger the Fosters pose to her.

So who are the suppression orders protecting?

 

[Awakening]

But no, their names shouldn’t be suppressed…

But that's what many families of missing children have to contend with - nutters, vile abuse online, and some who take it even further. Just look at the case of Cleo Smith and what they copped in the early days.

If my child went missing or I was charged with 2 assaults of a minor, I don't typically get my name suppressed.

I agree that a foster child has the right to privacy and protection but it seems less about that now.

 

[Awakening]

Does anyone know what areas have been searched?

From google maps there appears to be lots of lakes, creeks, national parks.

If someone known or unknown to WT dumped his body shortly after murdering him, it seems like an area with lots of potential places to hide a body.

I thought in the initial stages they looked close to FGM's house as the assumption was he either wandered off, or was taken by the bio family.

Made me wonder if wider searches of the area were done over the years.

 

[kat1234]

Does anyone know what areas have been searched?

From google maps there appears to be lots of lakes, creeks, national parks.

If someone known or unknown to WT dumped his body shortly after murdering him, it seems like an area with lots of potential places to hide a body.

I thought in the initial stages they looked close to FGM's house as the assumption was he either wandered off, or was taken by the bio family.

Made me wonder if wider searches of the area were done over the years.

Lady O is pretty cluey on search info. She might know.

 

[Awakening]

Police divers to scour swamp in search for William Tyrrell

The focus of the search for missing three-year-old William Tyrrell turns to a swamp close to where police teams have been scouring bushland in mid-north New South Wales.

www.abc.net.au

 

[kat1234]

Someone has suggested that it’s been identified that foster father was there when the “proof of life” photos were taken and that police can prove it.

That would really throw a spanner in the works wouldn’t it?

 

[31550]

But that's what many families of missing children have to contend with - nutters, vile abuse online, and some who take it even further. Just look at the case of Cleo Smith and what they copped in the early days.

If my child went missing or I was charged with 2 assaults of a minor, I don't typically get my name suppressed.

I agree that a foster child has the right to privacy and protection but it seems less about that now.

The suppression has nothing to do with William's disappearance. Their names are suppressed under Section 105 of the NSW Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Act 1998, which deals with publication of names and identifying information.

It was never intended to protect carers - it was intended to protect the identities of children and young people in care; mostly to avoid the stigma attached to such cases. The protection of carers identities is a (possibly unfortunate) by-product of the legislation.

 

[jason_recliner]

... many families of missing children have to contend with - nutters, vile abuse online, and some who take it even further...

How is this a reason to release their names, and the names of other people in cases covered by the media, to the public?

 

[kat1234]

How is this a reason to release their names, and the names of other people in cases covered by the media, to the public?

Because the suppression is to protect LT but the only people who are a threat to her safety are the ones under suppression.

#facts

 

[Awakening]

I'm not personally bothered if there names are released or not, but it does make me wonder in general terms if that's always the right thing to do when a child is missing presumed murdered.

 

[Awakening]

And why is the media reporting that FF's lawyers requested suppression on the two counts of lying and that the suppression order was subsequently overturned - which is why we are only learning about it now.

Why would his lawyers have to request suppression and why would it be lifted if it was in line with legislation to protect those in foster care?

 

[Awakening]

How is this a reason to release their names, and the names of other people in cases covered by the media, to the public?

So can anyone request they not be identified if their child is missing? I assume they could make the request but by law does the media have to respect that? Or is it only foster children that have legislation like this?

God forbid one of my children went missing, but I'd want all our names and faces out there in case it helped find my child.

They may not recognise my child but they might recognise my husband or myself and have some relevant information.

Example: a woman discovers my photos in her brothers house. Turns out the brother is a courier who regularly makes deliveries to my work place and understandably is so taken with my beauty becomes obsessed with me and decides to take one of my children to get my attention.

Or unbeknownst to me or anyone in our circle my husband has a serious gambling problem. A worker at the casino recognises my husband as being someone who has recently associated with the criminal underworld. Or worse, I discover he's a Collingwood supporter.

 

[kat1234]

And why is the media reporting that FF's lawyers requested suppression on the two counts of lying and that the suppression order was subsequently overturned - which is why we are only learning about it now.

Why would his lawyers have to request suppression and why would it be lifted if it was in line with legislation to protect those in foster care?

Very good question.

 

[BFew]

FF's lawyers requested suppression

Maybe the foster father's legals argued that to fund his legal expenses, he needed the charges suppressed, so that current or upcoming work related income was not reduced to the extent that it would affect his ability to fund his legal team.

Maybe after that the foster father was asked to provide a statement of assets.
Then when he did, and after his assets were assessed, he was told that he should sell some assets to fund his legal expenses.

 

[kat1234]

Maybe the foster father's legals argued that to fund his legal expenses, he needed the charges suppressed, so that current or upcoming work related income was not reduced to the extent that it would affect his ability to fund his legal team.

Maybe after that the foster father was asked to provide a statement of assets.
Then when he did, and after his assets were assessed, he was told that he should sell some assets to fund his legal expenses.

Did you think of that all by yourself BFew?

It reads rather well.

 

[BFew]

Did you think of that all by yourself BFew?

It reads rather well.

My lawyer was indisposed, so my cat peer reviewed it before I published it.

 

[Kurve]

There's a chapter in Caroline Overington's book where she interviews the PR team that was engaged by the fosters. They're on the record essentially bragging about hosting a 'stunning' event at Parliament House specifically to manipulate politicians into geting more resources and secure the $1 million dollar reward.

The fosters were at this elite event. Yet the public can't be trusted to know who they are or even to see their faces.

Gary Jubelin was there, he spoke after Simon Gleeson sang a rendition from Les Miserable 'Let him go. Let him live. He's only a boy' and Mike Baird was crying. I assume this song was carefully chosen to advance the theory that William had been taken by a paedophile ring and that a massive reward would tempt those who knew. We know now logically, the theory is probably wrong. One million dollars in unclaimed reward money says a paedophile 'ring' of more than one wasn't involved and William's image has never appeared over the dark web where paedophiles trade their photos.

The event was successful but there was one thing Detective Jubelin's bosses needed to know before all this money was authorised. They wanted his assurances. Was he absolutely, 100% sure that the parents and foster parents were in the clear?

Jubelin gave them his assurances, absolutely, they weren't involved. He essentially put his career on the line right then and we might find that may have gone some way in to ending it. imo.

 

[BFew]

Gary Jubelin was there, he spoke after Simon Gleeson sang a rendition from Les Miserable 'Let him go. Let him live. He's only a boy' and Mike Baird was crying. I assume this song was carefully chosen to advance the theory that William had been taken by a paedophile ring and that a massive reward would tempt those who knew.

The song is called "Bring Him Home".

"Bring Him Home," A Universal Prayer of Hope

www.thetabernaclechoir.org

'performed by the main character, Jean Valjean. In the musical, Valjean pleads to God to preserve the life of another man.'

'“One of the most emotionally powerful moments in the show is a prayer Vajean sings offering his life to God in exchange for the younger man’s life.”'

'The song has become an anthem for people around the world and helps provide comfort for those in need. Many have adopted the song as a personal prayer for their loved ones who serve in the armed forces, missions, or are otherwise apart from their families.'

 

[kat1234]

There's a chapter in Caroline Overington's book where she interviews the PR team that was engaged by the fosters. They're on the record essentially bragging about hosting a 'stunning' event at Parliament House specifically to manipulate politicians into geting more resources and secure the $1 million dollar reward.

The fosters were at this elite event. Yet the public can't be trusted to know who they are or even to see their faces.

Gary Jubelin was there, he spoke after Simon Gleeson sang a rendition from Les Miserable 'Let him go. Let him live. He's only a boy' and Mike Baird was crying. I assume this song was carefully chosen to advance the theory that William had been taken by a paedophile ring and that a massive reward would tempt those who knew. We know now logically, the theory is probably wrong. One million dollars in unclaimed reward money says a paedophile 'ring' of more than one wasn't involved and William's image has never appeared over the dark web where paedophiles trade their photos.

The event was successful but there was one thing Detective Jubelin's bosses needed to know before all this money was authorised. They wanted his assurances. Was he absolutely, 100% sure that the parents and foster parents were in the clear?

Jubelin gave them his assurances, absolutely, they weren't involved. He essentially put his career on the line right then and we might find that may have gone some way in to ending it. imo.

Yeah that’s right. What a wonderful distraction from any theory that the fosters may have been involved.

I think the PR company owners even brought the Piano to Canberra to the event as it was a special type of piano needed for the song.

The fosters saw themselves as advocates and lobbyists for victims of crime.

Now all of the MPs who attended the event are essentially tarnished with their brush. Quite the political problem I’d say.

PR or Spin Campaign? Did they really need to make Spider-Man cupcakes ? How dare they monetise this young boy.

To me that’s like an extra crime on top of the other ones.

SHAME.

 

[BFew]

there was one thing Detective Jubelin's bosses needed to know before all this money was authorised. They wanted his assurances. Was he absolutely, 100% sure that the parents and foster parents were in the clear? Jubelin gave them his assurances, absolutely not, they weren't involved.

Surely Jubelin's bosses didn't just take Jubelin's word for it.

Surely (in hindsight) any credible thorough independent forensic review of the case, would have quickly resulted in a question mark on both the Fosters?