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Richard Lounder said:
Yep hearing Donny finished
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So bloody sad to read they have gone into recess. I was told the other day it was likely and now it’s happened.

Two clubs gone and both traditional ones.

Maybe the powers involved will focus more on stabilising the league and stop the hell bent focus on the five divisions. The addition of new clubs which has really brought no benefit to the league and taking the eye off the health of clubs who have been struggling for a number of years is now coming to fruition.

I’m really saddened to see Doncaster FNC go into recess. Really enjoyed my time playing against them and catching up after games. Some really good people involved there over the years who I am sure will be shattered this has occurred.
 
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localfootyguru said:
So bloody sad to read they have gone into recess. I was told the other day it was likely and now it’s happened.

Two clubs gone and both traditional ones.

Maybe the powers involved will focus more on stabilising the league and stop the hell bent focus on the five divisions. The addition of many new clubs which has really brought no benefit to the league and taking the eye off the health of clubs who have been struggling for a number of years is now coming to fruition.

I’m really saddened to see Doncaster FNC go into recess. Really enjoyed my time playing against them and catching up after games. Some really good people involved there over the years who I am sure will be shattered this has occurred.
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It does suck for these clubs but I really don’t see the addition of these clubs as the issue. If anything it’s helping to offset the issues of these clubs that are battling. Unfortunately there are certain overcrowded areas that just simply don’t have the demand for the amount of clubs in their areas anymore with the changing demographics.
 
Harry Cheezels said:
Doncaster have gone into recess.
The League has asked Donvale to go to Div 2. They have accepted but it will only happen in Croydon go to Div 1.
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Makes no sense at this late stage that the EFNL are looking at Croydon going into D1 and Donvale D2.If this happens the bye is still there in D3,Leave the bye in D1 this year for now.
 
Voice of the G said:
Makes no sense at this late stage that the EFNL are looking at Croydon going into D1 and Donvale D2.If this happens the bye is still there in D3,Leave the bye in D1 this year for now.
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Agreed. Barely more than a week out from the start of the season. I wouldn't want to change divisions at this point, or have to re-do the fixture for all divisions. If Croydon and Donvale get the opportunity then Whitehorse would have to as well?
 
Brown Bottle said:
Agreed. Barely more than a week out from the start of the season. I wouldn't want to change divisions at this point, or have to re-do the fixture for all divisions. If Croydon and Donvale get the opportunity then Whitehorse would have to as well?
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Don’t try to over think it. Fixture isn’t hard. Doncaster out. Croydon just takes there spot. Donvale take Croydons spot. Whitehorse or a bye take donvales spot.

A bye in div 3 could open a spot up for upwey to come in next season.
 
guest666 said:
What clubs do we reckon will be most keen on the doncaster players if they have folded this season
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A handful have already ended up at Healesville. Donvale had 3 turn up over preseason. They're hoping on a couple more. Possibly Warrandyte.
I went through it as a player. Ended up taking the year off and came back to the club the next year
 
Harry Cheezels said:
Doncaster have gone into recess.
The League has asked Donvale to go to Div 2. They have accepted but it will only happen in Croydon go to Div 1.
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The sooner the Club or league announces, confirms, or denies this, the better for all Divisions and Doncaster's contracted players.

Update: Well, I just got a message that there should be an announcement today. A bye in Div 1 is what I have been advised.
 
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guest666 said:
What clubs do we reckon will be most keen on the doncaster players if they have folded this season
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Well if Donvale go up they’ll have $10k+ an available in their salary cap so assuming they have the cash they’d be well placed - geographically as well.
 
eflreceiver said:
The sooner the Club or league announces, confirms, or denies this, the better for all Divisions and Doncaster's contracted players.

Update: Well, I just got a message that there should be an announcement today. A bye in Div 1 is what I have been advised.
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So based off that theory Croydon have denied the option to go up therefore making it everyone else’s problem even more so than it already was??
Bunk I know you’ll be harsh on the Exspansion plan focus for 50 clubs to watch two teams in one off season fall at the waist side you’d have to say efnl have failed here miserably
 
Bunk Moreland said:
There is an article in Leader today, just basically rehashing the rumours that they’ve probably got from here or social media.

League and club have been contacted for comment, so assume something will happen soon.
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The article mentions that a month ago, they (Doncaster) denied a player shortage. It also states "The Eastern league season begins on Saturday, with Division 3 pair Silvan and Coldstream opening the year in a standalone clash". Didn't know that.
 
eflreceiver said:
The article mentions that a month ago, they (Doncaster) denied a player shortage. It also states "The Eastern league season begins on Saturday, with Division 3 pair Silvan and Coldstream opening the year in a standalone clash". Didn't know that.
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2 weeks ago Doncaster had 55 players.
 
thefunnelweb said:
So based off that theory Croydon have denied the option to go up therefore making it everyone else’s problem even more so than it already was??
Bunk I know you’ll be harsh on the Exspansion plan focus for 50 clubs to watch two teams in one off season fall at the waist side you’d have to say efnl have failed here miserably
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Each situation is different and maybe Doncaster isn’t linked to expansion but I’m totally sure that it’s an issue because there is just more and more players being shuffled around clubs - one club has an influx and it’s just at the expense of another.

Oakleigh District came in and had very poor numbers in their first year. No U19s, seniors playing two games in a day. Then they get an influx - all from Glen Waverley, who fold. Great.

All of Nunawading’s players go to other EFNL clubs and they fold. Great.

They want to bring another club in Ashwood from a very problematic area for numbers. Ashwood’s statement, like many new clubs, is the EFNL is a great league and it will be easier for us to recruit. Oh fantastic. So there’s players out there who you’ll only be able to get cos they want to play in the EFNL? How about they go to an existing EFNL club, of which many are struggling? Or do you mean you’ll be able to poach players from EFNL clubs?

Speak to any club and they’ll tell you that often the higher division, the easier it is to get players in. So if you’re in D1 - D4, what exactly has the introduction of Balwyn, Berwick, Noble Park, Beaconsfield, Park Orchards, South Belgrave over 20 years done for you but made it harder and sent you down? Particularly the final name there, who blatantly just cheat the rules and buy players from other clubs?

I’m not against clubs moving leagues where it makes sense for all parties, but you have to take each move on its own merits and the league absolutely has a responsibility to its existing clubs, who have built the league, ahead of new clubs. And I don’t think the EFNL have done this. It’s just been bloody-minded expansion for the sake of empire building, it has not been good for a lot of clubs and it hasn’t been good for the game as a whole, when it seeks to weaken other leagues.

The clubs aren’t blameless as they allow them in, and they too often don’t consider the existing clubs near the new one, and they are stupid and shortsighted by accepting 12-club divisions etc without thinking hang on, in a couple of years they’re obviously going to send us down to get back to 10 clubs.

I think the league could do with a fresh board and a fresh look at things to get rid of this expansion bullshit and refocus on the true challenges which is strong Auskick and junior pathways for every single club.

If we are indeed down to 46 clubs again then I think it’s probably time for some tough decisions to look to get back to the ideal four divisions. I’d say, being harsh, Berwick, Beaconsfield and Oakleigh District for starters have added basically nothing to the league and should be in southern.

The way we’re going the league will probably have more clubs fold in the coming years anyway. Sad.

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The EFNL Board has taken its eye off the ball. Sure, you can blame the clubs, but the league oversees what's transpiring around the Divisions, like the salary cap. They prefer to look the other way, and my perception is that this will come back to player/coach payments over and above the salary cap, as the funds have run out. I could be wrong, but I have seen what happens in a club when the money tree burns down. Loyalty makes way for self-preservation. It's happening under the EFNL Board's watch, and this has to be addressed at the board level instead of the Board enjoying some Grange at a luncheon paid for by all the clubs.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
Each situation is different and maybe Doncaster isn’t linked to expansion but I’m totally sure that it’s an issue because there is just more and more players being shuffled around clubs - one club has an influx and it’s just at the expense of another.

Oakleigh District came in and had very poor numbers in their first year. No U19s, seniors playing two games in a day. Then they get an influx - all from Glen Waverley, who fold. Great.

All of Nunawading’s players go to other EFNL clubs and they fold. Great.

They want to bring another club in Ashwood from a very problematic area for numbers. Ashwood’s statement, like many new clubs, is the EFNL is a great league and it will be easier for us to recruit. Oh fantastic. So there’s players out there who you’ll only be able to get cos they want to play in the EFNL? How about they go to an existing EFNL club, of which many are struggling? Or do you mean you’ll be able to poach players from EFNL clubs?

Speak to any club and they’ll tell you that often the higher division, the easier it is to get players in. So if you’re in D1 - D4, what exactly has the introduction of Balwyn, Berwick, Noble Park, Beaconsfield, Park Orchards, South Belgrave over 20 years done for you but made it harder and sent you down? Particularly the final name there, who blatantly just cheat the rules and buy players from other clubs?

I’m not against clubs moving leagues where it makes sense for all parties, but you have to take each move on its own merits and the league absolutely has a responsibility to its existing clubs, who have built the league, ahead of new clubs. And I don’t think the EFNL have done this. It’s just been bloody-minded expansion for the sake of empire building, it has not been good for a lot of clubs and it hasn’t been good for the game as a whole, when it seeks to weaken other leagues.

The clubs aren’t blameless as they allow them in, and they too often don’t consider the existing clubs near the new one, and they are stupid and shortsighted by accepting 12-club divisions etc without thinking hang on, in a couple of years they’re obviously going to send us down to get back to 10 clubs.

I think the league could do with a fresh board and a fresh look at things to get rid of this expansion bullshit and refocus on the true challenges which is strong Auskick and junior pathways for every single club.

If we are indeed down to 46 clubs again then I think it’s probably time for some tough decisions to look to get back to the ideal four divisions. I’d say, being harsh, Berwick, Beaconsfield and Oakleigh District for starters have added basically nothing to the league and should be in southern.

The way we’re going the league will probably have more clubs fold in the coming years anyway. Sad.
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God you get outraged alot 😂
 
Bunk Moreland said:
Each situation is different and maybe Doncaster isn’t linked to expansion but I’m totally sure that it’s an issue because there is just more and more players being shuffled around clubs - one club has an influx and it’s just at the expense of another.

Oakleigh District came in and had very poor numbers in their first year. No U19s, seniors playing two games in a day. Then they get an influx - all from Glen Waverley, who fold. Great.

All of Nunawading’s players go to other EFNL clubs and they fold. Great.

They want to bring another club in Ashwood from a very problematic area for numbers. Ashwood’s statement, like many new clubs, is the EFNL is a great league and it will be easier for us to recruit. Oh fantastic. So there’s players out there who you’ll only be able to get cos they want to play in the EFNL? How about they go to an existing EFNL club, of which many are struggling? Or do you mean you’ll be able to poach players from EFNL clubs?

Speak to any club and they’ll tell you that often the higher division, the easier it is to get players in. So if you’re in D1 - D4, what exactly has the introduction of Balwyn, Berwick, Noble Park, Beaconsfield, Park Orchards, South Belgrave over 20 years done for you but made it harder and sent you down? Particularly the final name there, who blatantly just cheat the rules and buy players from other clubs?

I’m not against clubs moving leagues where it makes sense for all parties, but you have to take each move on its own merits and the league absolutely has a responsibility to its existing clubs, who have built the league, ahead of new clubs. And I don’t think the EFNL have done this. It’s just been bloody-minded expansion for the sake of empire building, it has not been good for a lot of clubs and it hasn’t been good for the game as a whole, when it seeks to weaken other leagues.

The clubs aren’t blameless as they allow them in, and they too often don’t consider the existing clubs near the new one, and they are stupid and shortsighted by accepting 12-club divisions etc without thinking hang on, in a couple of years they’re obviously going to send us down to get back to 10 clubs.

I think the league could do with a fresh board and a fresh look at things to get rid of this expansion bullshit and refocus on the true challenges which is strong Auskick and junior pathways for every single club.

If we are indeed down to 46 clubs again then I think it’s probably time for some tough decisions to look to get back to the ideal four divisions. I’d say, being harsh, Berwick, Beaconsfield and Oakleigh District for starters have added basically nothing to the league and should be in southern.

The way we’re going the league will probably have more clubs fold in the coming years anyway. Sad.

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A little harsh on Berwick and Beacy.
Beacy a massive chance this year for the flag. Berwick have been disappointing but the they decided to come into the league after years of being the big fish, at the time it was a good move but I don't think they saw half the squad going the year the moved across.
 
Harry Cheezels said:
A little harsh on Berwick and Beacy.
Beacy a massive chance this year for the flag. Berwick have been disappointing but the they decided to come into the league after years of being the big fish, at the time it was a good move but I don't think they saw half the squad going the year the moved across.
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Sooner or later clubs will be back in their geographical areas and Berwick and Beaconsfield certainly won’t be in our league
 
Bunk Moreland said:
Each situation is different and maybe Doncaster isn’t linked to expansion but I’m totally sure that it’s an issue because there is just more and more players being shuffled around clubs - one club has an influx and it’s just at the expense of another.

Oakleigh District came in and had very poor numbers in their first year. No U19s, seniors playing two games in a day. Then they get an influx - all from Glen Waverley, who fold. Great.

All of Nunawading’s players go to other EFNL clubs and they fold. Great.

They want to bring another club in Ashwood from a very problematic area for numbers. Ashwood’s statement, like many new clubs, is the EFNL is a great league and it will be easier for us to recruit. Oh fantastic. So there’s players out there who you’ll only be able to get cos they want to play in the EFNL? How about they go to an existing EFNL club, of which many are struggling? Or do you mean you’ll be able to poach players from EFNL clubs?

Speak to any club and they’ll tell you that often the higher division, the easier it is to get players in. So if you’re in D1 - D4, what exactly has the introduction of Balwyn, Berwick, Noble Park, Beaconsfield, Park Orchards, South Belgrave over 20 years done for you but made it harder and sent you down? Particularly the final name there, who blatantly just cheat the rules and buy players from other clubs?

I’m not against clubs moving leagues where it makes sense for all parties, but you have to take each move on its own merits and the league absolutely has a responsibility to its existing clubs, who have built the league, ahead of new clubs. And I don’t think the EFNL have done this. It’s just been bloody-minded expansion for the sake of empire building, it has not been good for a lot of clubs and it hasn’t been good for the game as a whole, when it seeks to weaken other leagues.

The clubs aren’t blameless as they allow them in, and they too often don’t consider the existing clubs near the new one, and they are stupid and shortsighted by accepting 12-club divisions etc without thinking hang on, in a couple of years they’re obviously going to send us down to get back to 10 clubs.

I think the league could do with a fresh board and a fresh look at things to get rid of this expansion bullshit and refocus on the true challenges which is strong Auskick and junior pathways for every single club.

If we are indeed down to 46 clubs again then I think it’s probably time for some tough decisions to look to get back to the ideal four divisions. I’d say, being harsh, Berwick, Beaconsfield and Oakleigh District for starters have added basically nothing to the league and should be in southern.

The way we’re going the league will probably have more clubs fold in the coming years anyway. Sad.

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You can equate this to the AFL as well Since coming into the league
GWS and GC have hurt Victorian clubs like North Carlton and Essendon. Dilutes the talent and seriously …..what have GC and GWS done to improve the AFL
 

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