Do essendon deserve the number 1 draft pick?

[Upgrayedd]

No, but they will still get it. So no use whinging. If i was brisbane ild lobby for a priority pick hoping to get maybe pick 1 and 3.

 

[HARKER]

Disagreed with the decision from the AFL, since the announcement.

It was fundamentally flawed then........and it still is now..........and it has nothing to do with Essendon but the principle of the matter. Wrong is wrong.

 

[Mootsy]

Survey football fans and I bet ya all are yearning for a competitive Essendon..

Many want it..

 

[juss]

Whether its the right or wrong decision its done now. If it was going to be stripped off them it needed to be done when the players were banned months ago, not now.

Pointless thread

 

[HARKER]

Survey football fans and I bet ya all are yearning for a competitive Essendon..

Many want it..

At the expense of North....Melbourne....St.kilda....Western Bulldogs???

Now why would that be? Certainly not for a fair system.

 

[Donakebab]

 

[HARKER]

Whether its the right or wrong decision its done now. If it was going to be stripped off them it needed to be done years ago, not now.

Pointless thread

What do you mean years ago?

Last year was when the right thing could have been done.
Simply give Essendon the pick in line with their 2015 finish.
No-one would have had cause for complaint and it would have been seen as fair for everyone.....even Essendon supporters. Can't argue against it.

 

[Chism]

Of course they don't and this was the No.1 question everybody asked as soon as they were banned for systematic drug cheating by a higher NEUTRAL governing body.

I have no faith in the AFL to deny them the No.1 pick which they have earned through cheating the system and the AFL initially tipped them off they were being investigated in the first place FFS and did everything they could to protect their own brand even though WADA held a level of common sense and came over the top trumping the AFL and ASADA who are both gutless Tigers that have no teeth.

Rest assured the No.1 draft selection is coming for them and whether or not you like it learning to accept the ineptness that runs our great game will be beneficial for all as nothing will ever change.

 

[HARKER]

Do you know just how much credibility Essendon would have garnered for putting forward what I suggested, to the AFL?

It would have meant dropping down from the pick #1 to pick #4 but much would have been forgiven and a lot would have been respected.

Certainly not Essendon fault for accepting what was given.........but an opportunity missed, for mine.

 

[Lensen]

Never had one in 30 years of the draft.
Should be more outrage about yet another top 5 pick for Gold Coast or Carlton. Even comp my arse

 

[Chism]

Drug cheats forever and regardless of their supporters joy of a No.1 pick next year this stain will never go away even in 2 decades time.

Only sports team in this countries history that has been found guilty by a neutral governing body of a systematic drug doping regime.

 

[benneth]

The Bombers were kicked out of finals and stripped numerous draft picks. Massive punishment that happened years ago. You can't just decide to punish a club again 3 years later just because you don't feel the original punishment was harsh enough.

If anyone can, it's the AFL administration.

 

[DapperDon]

Do you know just how much credibility Essendon would have garnered for putting forward what I suggested, to the AFL?

It would have meant dropping down from the pick #1 to pick #4 but much would have been forgiven and a lot would have been respected.

Certainly not Essendon fault for accepting what was given.........but an opportunity missed, for mine.

If the AFL waited until the verdict we wouldn't get pick 1.

Everyone was fine with the punishment before the verdict, now they are complaining more.

Soooo much complaining.

 

[DapperDon]

Drug cheats forever and regardless of their supporters joy of a No.1 pick next year this stain will never go away even in 2 decades time.

Only sports team in this countries history that has been found guilty by a neutral governing body of a systematic drug doping regime.

Please take the drug talk to the dedicated board.

I thought you'd know better.

 

[Proper Gander]

Maybe they could get pick one but the bloke turns out a bit of a disappointment? I see this as a solution that could work for all parties. Or even skip the draft altogether this year and start again next year so nobody gets picks. Or shut down the competition for a few years.

I'm still deciding whether I like this thread the best of all the threads on this topic. I think it breaks even so far.

 

[blitzer]

I would argue there is historical precedent for this. Carlton with their 3 #1 draft picks in a row - why were they so bad again? Oh yeah because they got punished for salary cap cheating when they were already a terrible team.

Besides as I can recall last year and this preseason prior to bans everyone thought we'd be one of the bottom teams and possibly wooden spooners anyway. After all only Essendon supporters thought that the WADA charges impacted our performance last year so we were genuinely a terrible team. So maybe we do deserve a top pick anyway. As after all the whole idea that we don't deserve it is based on the idea that we are too good to get the #1 pick.

It hardly matters anyway. We will either get pick #1 or in the extremely unlikely case where they grant a priority pick to Brisbane then we will get pick #2. Yeah we will probably be a lot better next year but its not like we will be in flag contention or anything. At best we will be a middle of the road side - maybe sneaking into finals if all goes to plan.

 

[MAAAATTDAAAAMON]

Short memories some people. Kicked out of finals, fined shit loads, lossed several high draft picks, players banned for 12 months, a full clean out of club coaches. Now they want more picks taken? Idiots.

 

[ams4crows]

The Bombers were kicked out of finals and stripped numerous draft picks. Massive punishment that happened years ago. You can't just decide to punish a club again 3 years later just because you don't feel the original punishment was harsh enough.

Essendon got less of a punishment from the AFL for the WHOLE team taking drugs than Adelaide for not declaring payment from Balfous to Tippett, we were still under the Salry csp we just didn't put forth the correct papper work, not to mention we copped Melbourne's punishment for Tanking, because Bailey worked for us and then died!! Then Walsh died like **** No they don't deserve the number 1 pick.

 

[adammania9]

Essendon got less of a punishment from the AFL for the WHOLE team taking drugs than Adelaide for not declaring payment from Balfous to Tippett, we were still under the Salry csp we just didn't put forth the correct papper work, not to mention we copped Melbourne's punishment for Tanking, because Bailey worked for us and then died!! Then Walsh died like **** No they don't deserve the number 1 pick.

I'm sorry that some people unexpectedly die but that's not how it works.

 

[Donakebab]

Do you know just how much credibility Essendon would have garnered for putting forward what I suggested, to the AFL?

It would have meant dropping down from the pick #1 to pick #4 but much would have been forgiven and a lot would have been respected.

Certainly not Essendon fault for accepting what was given.........but an opportunity missed, for mine.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Donakebab]

Essendon got less of a punishment from the AFL for the WHOLE team taking drugs than Adelaide for not declaring payment from Balfous to Tippett, we were still under the Salry csp we just didn't put forth the correct papper work, not to mention we copped Melbourne's punishment for Tanking, because Bailey worked for us and then died!! Then Walsh died like **** No they don't deserve the number 1 pick.

What the hell do the tragic deaths of Dean Bailey and Phil Walsh have to do with this? Pretty pathetic that you'd stoop so low as to bring them up just to score a few cheap points.

 

[DapperDon]

Essendon got less of a punishment from the AFL for the WHOLE team taking drugs than Adelaide for not declaring payment from Balfous to Tippett, we were still under the Salry csp we just didn't put forth the correct papper work, not to mention we copped Melbourne's punishment for Tanking, because Bailey worked for us and then died!! Then Walsh died like **** No they don't deserve the number 1 pick.

Removed from finals
3 million in fines
12 players suspended
2 years of draft picks
Coach 12 months ban
entire football department sacked or stood down

against
2 years of draft picks
500k fine


Yep. Crows easily worse off

 

[eDPS]

Not suprised its a lot of Carlton supporters saying no . It's my club so of course I'd say yes just like any other opposition club supporter would if it was their club.

 

[HARKER]

If the AFL waited until the verdict we wouldn't get pick 1.

Everyone was fine with the punishment before the verdict, now they are complaining more.

Soooo much complaining.

I was never part of that 'everyone'
I knew it was wrong then and I know it's wrong now. No need to procrastinate. It's very simple.

 

[DapperDon]

I was never part of that 'everyone'
I knew it was wrong then and I know it's wrong now. No need to procrastinate. It's very simple.

Fair enough, I take back my everyone comment and replace it with most people