Do Richmond deserve to be in the AFL - A discussion on the merit of relegation zones

[Mayneman]

Now, let's be serious here this mob is a rabble. Have been for some time and dont look like turning the corner any time soon.

The AFL has implemented a number of mechanisms to ensure an even competition, the draft, salary caps etc etc. Some how Richmond seem incapable of making the right decisons at the draft table, picking their coach, picking washed up drug addicts and right now it's exactly like having a bye.

At what stage does the AFL stop, take stock and realise some clubs just cant be helped back into contention.

They are deplorable and yes I realise we the Fremantle football club havent been a shining light ourselves but this club the Richmond football club have been a stain on the competition for the better part of 30 years.

Is this something the AFL should consider, a relagation zone for clubs who continue to flounder, promote a side from the SANFL, WAFL or VFL via a national carnival?

At the moment I'd back the Claremont Footy club to pump Richmond, in years gone by Subiaco would have been a higher quality side than the Tigs.

No doubt there will be some who will howl about the history of the game in Victoria, but tough shit, it's a national code, it's meant to be about the best 16 sides in the land.

Richmond are no where near it.

 

[DonsRule]

In a word, no, I don't think the league is big enough to support it.

As others have said below, there aren't enough players to make the league have relegation zones.

Even if Clairemont cound beat the Tiges. I doubt they's do well against anyone else, and would again be religated.

 

[ep2018]

If Carlton or WCE were dropped to a lower league it could potentially kill off the clubs. The AFL is too small to implement such a system.

 

[mcuzzy]

OP the same was said about Fremantle for the majority of the time they have been in the league, now look how well you are going

 

[MadMac]

OP the same was said about Fremantle for the majority of the time they have been in the league, now look how well you are going

True. This thread is a joke.

 

[Shane Hird]

Now, let's be serious here this mob is a rabble. Have been for some time and dont look like turning the corner any time soon.

The AFL has implemented a number of mechanisms to ensure an even competition, the draft, salary caps etc etc. Some how Richmond seem incapable of making the right decisons at the draft table, picking their coach, picking washed up drug addicts and right now it's exactly like having a bye.

At what stage does the AFL stop, take stock and realise some clubs just cant be helped back into contention.

They are deplorable and yes I realise we the Fremantle football club havent been a shining light ourselves but this club the Richmond football club have been a stain on the competition for the better part of 30 years.

Is this something the AFL should consider, a relagation zone for clubs who continue to flounder, promote a side from the SANFL, WAFL or VFL via a national carnival?

At the moment I'd back the Claremont Footy club to pump Richmond, in years gone by Subiaco would have been a higher quality side than the Tigs.

No doubt there will be some who will howl about the history of the game in Victoria, but tough shit, it's a national code, it's meant to be about the best 16 sides in the land.

Richmond are no where near it.

You're dreaming....

 

[jerry springer]

coming from a Fremantle fan,get over yourself

 

[Swampfox]

Now, let's be serious here this mob is a rabble. Have been for some time and dont look like turning the corner any time soon.

The AFL has implemented a number of mechanisms to ensure an even competition, the draft, salary caps etc etc. Some how Richmond seem incapable of making the right decisons at the draft table, picking their coach, picking washed up drug addicts and right now it's exactly like having a bye.

At what stage does the AFL stop, take stock and realise some clubs just cant be helped back into contention.

They are deplorable and yes I realise we the Fremantle football club havent been a shining light ourselves but this club the Richmond football club have been a stain on the competition for the better part of 30 years.

Is this something the AFL should consider, a relagation zone for clubs who continue to flounder, promote a side from the SANFL, WAFL or VFL via a national carnival?

At the moment I'd back the Claremont Footy club to pump Richmond, in years gone by Subiaco would have been a higher quality side than the Tigs.

No doubt there will be some who will howl about the history of the game in Victoria, but tough shit, it's a national code, it's meant to be about the best 16 sides in the land.

Richmond are no where near it.

The difference between AFL and ANY other competition in the country is MASSIVE

You have no idea what your talking about

 

[Barnzy]

We have 10 premierships you have 0.

 

[Mayneman]

The difference between AFL and ANY other competition in the country is MASSIVE

You have no idea what your talking about

I think it's massively over stated tbh.

Broughton - Dual Subi premiership player
Barlow - Country Footballer
Liam Anthony - East Freo league player
Hayden Ballantyne - Peel Player
Garlett - Swan Districts League player
Podsy - Geelong player for how long?
Stratton - East Perth
Kayler Thompson - Perth Football club

All these blokes have stepped into AFL footy and havent looked completely out of place.

Richmond presently are not competitive.

I'd back Claremont to at least put up a fight.

 

[Military_man]

Richmond will come good oneday. same could said for Melbourne they been rabble for years. Fremantle has never won anything in their history. They could be classed as rabble. I think most AFL clubs have gone thru slumps but they always come good. Richmond needs to look at their recruitment department that would be the problem. If they recuited well then they wouldn't be in this situation.

 

[Chris who]

Now, let's be serious here this mob is a rabble. Have been for some time and dont look like turning the corner any time soon.

The AFL has implemented a number of mechanisms to ensure an even competition, the draft, salary caps etc etc. Some how Richmond seem incapable of making the right decisons at the draft table, picking their coach, picking washed up drug addicts and right now it's exactly like having a bye.

At what stage does the AFL stop, take stock and realise some clubs just cant be helped back into contention.

They are deplorable and yes I realise we the Fremantle football club havent been a shining light ourselves but this club the Richmond football club have been a stain on the competition for the better part of 30 years.

Is this something the AFL should consider, a relagation zone for clubs who continue to flounder, promote a side from the SANFL, WAFL or VFL via a national carnival?

At the moment I'd back the Claremont Footy club to pump Richmond, in years gone by Subiaco would have been a higher quality side than the Tigs.

No doubt there will be some who will howl about the history of the game in Victoria, but tough shit, it's a national code, it's meant to be about the best 16 sides in the land.

Richmond are no where near it.

Where were you last year after the dockers could only manaage <35 points twice last year

 

[MadMac]

We have 10 premierships you have 0.

Oi, why feed the troll? There's no need for that crap. Most Freo fans on this site wouldn't agree with this thread being open at all. If you want to have a discussion about Freo, open your own thread.

 

[Mayneman]

We have 10 premierships you have 0.

Really.

Like I said it's a national code - The AFL.

State premierships are irrelevant.

This isnt strictly related to Richmond's onfield performance of the last quarter of a century, but the manner in which they recruit, organise themselves and fail to compete on a regular basis should should surely be enough for AFL to at least consider their position in the nations elite sporting code.

What's the point of having a side which is uncompetitive on such a regular basis?

 

[Shane Hird]

I think it's massively over stated tbh.

Broughton - Dual Subi premiership player
Barlow - Country Footballer
Liam Anthony - East Freo league player
Hayden Ballantyne - Peel Player
Garlett - Swan Districts League player
Podsy - Geelong player for how long?
Stratton - East Perth
Kayler Thompson - Perth Football club

All these blokes have stepped into AFL footy and havent looked completely out of place.

Richmond presently are not competitive.

I'd back Claremont to at least put up a fight.

So in the space of 10mins you have gone from 'Tigers would pump the Tigers' to '...back them to at least put a up a fight'....


Make up you're ####ing mind sunshine!


Go and have another can of Solo before the game starts...

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I think it's massively over stated tbh.

Broughton - Dual Subi premiership player
Barlow - Country Footballer
Liam Anthony - East Freo league player
Hayden Ballantyne - Peel Player
Garlett - Swan Districts League player
Podsy - Geelong player for how long?
Stratton - East Perth
Kayler Thompson - Perth Football club

All these blokes have stepped into AFL footy and havent looked completely out of place.

Richmond presently are not competitive.

I'd back Claremont to at least put up a fight.

You'd have an argument if the above players all came from the one club, but they didn't. (were both Podsiadly and Barlow at Werribee?)

This thread is a bit rich coming from a Freo supporter. As much as I think that Freo will finish top 4 this year and at least make a Preliminary Final just remember your club has been a rabble for more years than not in its brief existence.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Ugh...

 

[EagleMan87]

91 points down at 3qtr time.

Not looking good for the Tiges.

 

[1jasonoz]

The winners of various state leagues (WAFL, SANFL, VFL, TFL) playoff to determine the best state league side. The winner of this knockout comp then play who ever came last in the AFL to see who is allowed to be the 16th team the following year.

The losing team is relegated/remains in their respective states league.

 

[Mayneman]

Another insightful comment Byron.

You surely have to be the biggest waste of space on here.

Could you please attempt to post something longer than 50 characters?

 

[Dazb86]

Tigers don't even play their best 22 each week. They are playing kids for the sake of it that aren't anywhere near ready for AFL.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Travel back 40 years, merge the VFA and VFL, stick it out at the suburban grounds, implement staggered salary caps and forget about a draft.

 

[Jetau]

Now, let's be serious here this mob is a rabble. Have been for some time and dont look like turning the corner any time soon.

The AFL has implemented a number of mechanisms to ensure an even competition, the draft, salary caps etc etc. Some how Richmond seem incapable of making the right decisons at the draft table, picking their coach, picking washed up drug addicts and right now it's exactly like having a bye.

At what stage does the AFL stop, take stock and realise some clubs just cant be helped back into contention.

They are deplorable and yes I realise we the Fremantle football club havent been a shining light ourselves but this club the Richmond football club have been a stain on the competition for the better part of 30 years.

Is this something the AFL should consider, a relagation zone for clubs who continue to flounder, promote a side from the SANFL, WAFL or VFL via a national carnival?

At the moment I'd back the Claremont Footy club to pump Richmond, in years gone by Subiaco would have been a higher quality side than the Tigs.

No doubt there will be some who will howl about the history of the game in Victoria, but tough shit, it's a national code, it's meant to be about the best 16 sides in the land.

Richmond are no where near it.

You are a tool. In a more cutthroat league environment Freo would have probably folded after 2001. Now you're kicking the worst team in the league while they're down.

 

[Shane Hird]

Another insightful comment Byron.

You surely have to be the biggest waste of space on here.

Could you please attempt to post something longer than 50 characters?

No. You're stupid, pointless thread is..

 

[Mayneman]

You'd have an argument if the above players all came from the one club, but they didn't. (were both Podsiadly and Barlow at Werribee?)

It's widely acknowledged that there are plenty more of these types out there just waiting for there chance.

Take a look at Richmonds list, obviously they are void of AFL level players, it's embarrasing that they play along side Geelong.

Surely you can see the argument here.

These clubs have the luxury of knowing they arent going to be dumped from the comp, they then go into stages of rebuilding, sadly for Richmond they seem incapable of diong this correctly.

It breeds a culture of failure.

Yes, I understand Freo have been poor since inception and for a good 10 years I would have agreed they didnt deserve their place.

Surely it has to be looked at, Richmond are deplorable and because there's no pressure for their spot they can continue down this road of mediocrity without fear of ramification.

I'm a believer that this type of thinking would be a deterrant for the tank, and ensure a high quality in terms of competitiveness from each club.

This thread is a bit rich coming from a Freo supporter. As much as I think that Freo will finish top 4 this year and at least make a Preliminary Final just remember your club has been a rabble for more years than not in its brief existence.