We have nothing the fear from A League.
Do we need another AFL Club or are there too many as it is?
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We have nothing the fear from A League.
PoppedCorn
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No
Ffs
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GC, 4 vic clubs fold, two vic clubs merge, dont care who.
We would be one of the last teams ever considered to be culled.
Ten teams in the same state in a national league, give me a ****ing break.
Have you ever wondered why they don't do this? It's because history shows in a range of codes that when a club disappears, whether it's through it's own demise, or because it gets relocated or dissolved by the governing body, you frequently lose fans. They don't all just go find another team to support. They will often leave the sport altogether and sometimes hop to another code. Whether you like it or not, Victoria were the ones to expand their own competition, that's why they will always have more legacy clubs than any other state. Heck, if the AFL got rid of my team, I'd strongly consider moving on from AFL. Maybe I'd take more interest in the A-league. This is exactly what the AFL is trying to avoid. Their revenue relies on a stable supporter base - even if some clubs require more help than others to stay afloat. This notion that you can strip the competition back to have equal representation across all states denies a whole lot of underlying realities about the league. Even being relatively saturated isn't a problem because Victoria's population is growing faster than all other states. And why would you cull supporters only to give rivals like the A-league an opening and to try to win them back again. If you enjoy dominance in an area, you protect that dominance. It's a basis of doing business.
The experience in both WA & SA suggests you don't lose fans to any noticeable extent - what history are you calling on ?
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Ummm they are where they came from.. .Boot Gold Coast out and send them back where they came from, merge Melbourne with Essendon and piss them off to the VFL and then replace them with Williamstown or Port Melbourne
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Colonial
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Easy when you are killing someone elses club off isnt it?
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WA and SA never had teams in the AFL that folded. I'm talking about the AFL here, and how they should be protecting their patch. Oh, and I know people who supported both South Melbourne and Fitzroy who never came back to the game after they were relocated - and it's well acknowledged in Melbourne that this happened. I could give you other examples, but they are the most relevant. It would be even more dramatic if the AFL just folded teams without relocation. You don't give a threatening rival like soccer an opening.
I'm sure you have no problem with six teams being cut as long as your team isn't one of them, ay?
Colonial
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It was a question
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Not exactly like Adelaide just joined the draft list
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Yet again.
Fitzroy Football Club did not relocate to Brisbane. Fitzroy was thrown out of the AFL competition, by having its licence to compete in the AFL withdrawn.
Like the Frankston Dolphins in the VFL.
You're just one of those guys, aren't you? Don't give a crap about anything unless it directly impacts you.
Ok, I skated over history a bit there for the sake of expediency. Sorry if I offended. But my point is that a lot of people walked away from the AFL when that happened and never came back.
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Yes, and the AFL lost quite a few fans at the time by removing Fitzroy.
The AFL tried to lessen the impact by having the Bears rebrand to resemble something more of the Fitzroy identity.
The AFL tried to lessen the impact by having the Bears rebrand to resemble something more of the Fitzroy identity.
I was ropable when they kicked Fitzroy out. They were always my second team. I felt very disillusioned with the game when they left. I can only imagine how painful it was for a Fitzroy supporter. If my team left, I'd be done with AFL. Even a merger or relocation would probably kill it off for me. I don't love the game that much that I don't care who's in the competition.
If we're talking of reducing the number of clubs in Melbourne to stop the dilemma of who to merge, solve it by merging everyone (nearly).
Collingwood are always banging on about being the biggest club (and the rest of us need a team to hate) so let them go it alone.
Geelong isn't really in Melbourne so they can stay as is.
Easiest way is to do it geographically (also has the benefit of matching a "bigger" club with a "smaller" club):
Western Bulldogs & Essendon: Maribyrnong Bulldogs - Essendon jumper but with royal blue instead of black
North Melbourne & Carlton: North Melbourne Blues - Navy blue with a redesigned monogram
Melbourne & Richmond: Melbourne Tigers - Melbourne's yolk in Richmond's colours
Hawthorn & St Kilda: Monash Hawks - Tri-panel with red, brown and gold
Redistribute the four teams as needed, or reduce the number of teams.
Collingwood are always banging on about being the biggest club (and the rest of us need a team to hate) so let them go it alone.
Geelong isn't really in Melbourne so they can stay as is.
Easiest way is to do it geographically (also has the benefit of matching a "bigger" club with a "smaller" club):
Western Bulldogs & Essendon: Maribyrnong Bulldogs - Essendon jumper but with royal blue instead of black
North Melbourne & Carlton: North Melbourne Blues - Navy blue with a redesigned monogram
Melbourne & Richmond: Melbourne Tigers - Melbourne's yolk in Richmond's colours
Hawthorn & St Kilda: Monash Hawks - Tri-panel with red, brown and gold
Redistribute the four teams as needed, or reduce the number of teams.
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Like an objective view , but you might have to a bit careful when you go to you're board next.
Melbourne Magpies - MCG (east siders)
Melbourne Bulldogs - Etihad Stadium (west siders)
would be like Sox v Cubs in Chicago
Melbourne Bulldogs - Etihad Stadium (west siders)
would be like Sox v Cubs in Chicago
Well done you. Managing to get the relocation response as the first post after the OP.
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I can only speak for myself, I posted preemptively because I knew Melbourne clubs supporters would complain about the existing expansion teams. I'm a bit over listening to how we've caused global warming, earthquakes and plagues.
Was hoping that suggesting reduction in Melbourne would keep them on the defensive.
Sad and petty really, and I'm ashamed
Ok over it now and ready to move on
kane249
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Did I say strip it completely back so everything was equal? Stop making assumptions.
You said it yourself later on, the AFL already culled South Melbourne and Fitzroy from the bloated Melbourne market and the game is as strong as ever. It may have alienated a handful of supporters from those teams but over time the number of new supporters who came to a strong game has far outweighed this. That's called smart business by making tough decisions.
There's 9 teams in Melbourne which is way too many to support long term regardless of population growth. That isn't even taking into consideration there's another tram just up the highway further taking a piece of the pie also.
As for expansion the VFL had to go national to avoid going broke. A number of teams were going to fold and the cash injection the massive license fee the Bears and the Eagles paid gave them a lifeline.
But hey keep living in a romantic delusion that the over crowded Melbourne market is a sound business model long term.
