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Dogs v Swans - game analysis
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Curly5
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Tackling and commitment were great. They ran out of legs in the last quarter and will have to address that. Don't forget the Swans had 13 regulars not playing while we had only 3 or 4 out. Goal kicking is another area that needs urgent attention. Decision making showed improvement.
I was happy with the win though, will take anything at this stage.
Did you see the lady crying after Murph's 9 pointer?
I was happy with the win though, will take anything at this stage.
Did you see the lady crying after Murph's 9 pointer?
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Curly5 said:
Yep - Great Stuff - Got Misty Eyed myself after seeing her
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we played well in spurts. tended to get punished around half back for fiddling about too much under pressure and coughing it up.
would like to see hargreave and macmahon comit their bodies more when playing in the backline. As defenders they need to play the percentages more. Power needs to go in harder as well.
cooney won a fair few centre clearances roving to darce, and could have been even more damaging if for a touch of the fumbles here and there.
west looked like he was mixing in some defensive work to his game, and relishing being the agressor in that regard on occasion. still managed to get heaps of hard ball and many telling touches under pressure.
I thought overall there were some encouraging signs when we didnt revert to fidling handball too much, although against quite poor opposition.
would like to see hargreave and macmahon comit their bodies more when playing in the backline. As defenders they need to play the percentages more. Power needs to go in harder as well.
cooney won a fair few centre clearances roving to darce, and could have been even more damaging if for a touch of the fumbles here and there.
west looked like he was mixing in some defensive work to his game, and relishing being the agressor in that regard on occasion. still managed to get heaps of hard ball and many telling touches under pressure.
I thought overall there were some encouraging signs when we didnt revert to fidling handball too much, although against quite poor opposition.
stefoid said:
Well called. I almost threw something at the TV when they were ****ing around with silly handballs.
General decision making was often poor NB kicking to a palyer with 2 or three opponents.
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Overall i think we did well. The final scoreboard flattered the Swans a little bit, i was a bit disappointed in the last Qtr leading by 40 and we took our foot off the throat and nearly let them back in..soon after we only led by 15 points with the ball deep in their forward line, but hey we're into the final 8 of the Wizard cup and there's a lot more positives than negatives to come out of it.
Best part for me was tackling and general aggro. Mr Harris seems to have improved using his body.
But the tackling and general aggro seemed to be a little patchy towards the end - fitness?
But the tackling and general aggro seemed to be a little patchy towards the end - fitness?
I agree with the hardness and at the ball people have already mentioned. A period in the third where we won the game by the pressure we put on there backs. I think a lot of early Swans goals came from our mistakes.
Poor handballing backwards in the back line. It must be said that Swans were very undermanned but we can only play who is out there.
Rawlings and Harris in the backline look good. MacMahon was very good. Gilbee as well. Cooney excellent.
Hargraves was beaten and made numerous fumbling/decision errors but he is worth persisting. Johno made a few bloopers but kicked 3!
I think a girl from here was sitting behind me on (Lvl 2 city side) as she was talking about rec footy.
Poor handballing backwards in the back line. It must be said that Swans were very undermanned but we can only play who is out there.
Rawlings and Harris in the backline look good. MacMahon was very good. Gilbee as well. Cooney excellent.
Hargraves was beaten and made numerous fumbling/decision errors but he is worth persisting. Johno made a few bloopers but kicked 3!
I think a girl from here was sitting behind me on (Lvl 2 city side) as she was talking about rec footy.
stevebiscuit
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Best thing for me was the forward pressure, managed to lock the ball in the forward line and not let it bounce straight out like the last couple of years.
Also Smith in the forward line is good. We have a number of players who can run the ball out of defence but not many who can cause a bit of havoc in the forward line. I think he is better suited there for team balance.
Also Smith in the forward line is good. We have a number of players who can run the ball out of defence but not many who can cause a bit of havoc in the forward line. I think he is better suited there for team balance.
yes, there was more forward line pressure which was good, and of course grant down there really keeps the oppositon on their toes.
Smith I think is adjusting to life as a parts player, but I dont think jonho is quite used to not being the centre of all things. Still a fair few runs to the boundary line/nowhere to receieve, and having shots on goal when centering was the thing to do, or demanding the ball when he should be sheparding etc...
Smith I think is adjusting to life as a parts player, but I dont think jonho is quite used to not being the centre of all things. Still a fair few runs to the boundary line/nowhere to receieve, and having shots on goal when centering was the thing to do, or demanding the ball when he should be sheparding etc...
the dog catcher
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The biggest thing we did was show ourselves that when we apply pressure (like in the 3rd quarter) we force the opposition to make the mistakes we have been making for 2 1/2 years.
Committment was good, but really, if Sydney were at full strength, we would have lost by 10 goals.
I thought the skill level at times was VERY poor, and nothing showed me that our goal kicking will be dynamite this year.
The pressure to keep the ball in the forward 50 was promising, but there is a LOT of improvement needed, because I honestly thought we looked like a bottom 4 team....
I thought the skill level at times was VERY poor, and nothing showed me that our goal kicking will be dynamite this year.
The pressure to keep the ball in the forward 50 was promising, but there is a LOT of improvement needed, because I honestly thought we looked like a bottom 4 team....
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Dry Rot said:
the flood perhaps ... (though its hard to tell from the tv)
i think the tackling was way more intense.
the fiddling round in the backline like hand-balling to another doggie in a worst positioin than the first, under pressure was due to the presuure from Sydenee.
I guess we must temper this all with the fact that the WiZaRd cup is in fact a scratch match, so the final tactics rest with Rodney.
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Mitch in forward line - CHF?
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Dry Rot said:
Over the past couple of years we have gone very wide into the forward line, out of defense..well all over the ground really.
Today we were a lot straighter, i noticed a few times players were deliberately ignoring the wider option.
Perhaps it was due to the opposition being not as strong as we have faced in the recent past, but i think it was definetely a big improvement/plus in our game plan.
One other thing, we had around 27 scoring shots to 15 of Sydney so the final margin of 20 points is a little bit deceptive.
Our kicking for goal wasn't bad.....6 of the points were rushed.
The scoreboard definitely flattered the Swans, due to their accuracy and our turnovers across half back .
The scoreboard definitely flattered the Swans, due to their accuracy and our turnovers across half back .
Good hitout, the general intensity of our players was up a significant margin on previous outings. Cooney, Harris, Bubba, Boyd and Cross in particular really rushed on their opponents and drilled them at every chance, I loved Harris' hit on the big fellow near the boundary line in particular.
We tended to bring the ball in-board almost at every opportunity across half back which was encouraging although the robotic nature of it cost us posession on a few occassions when the better option was ignored for the game plan (not sure if that is a good or bad thing in the long run?)
Kicking for goal was ordinary, we really need to make more of our goal scoring opportunities. It has been a huge hole in our performances over the past 4 to 5 years now! It certainly and will continue to unless we can improve.
We tended to bring the ball in-board almost at every opportunity across half back which was encouraging although the robotic nature of it cost us posession on a few occassions when the better option was ignored for the game plan (not sure if that is a good or bad thing in the long run?)
Kicking for goal was ordinary, we really need to make more of our goal scoring opportunities. It has been a huge hole in our performances over the past 4 to 5 years now! It certainly and will continue to unless we can improve.
Was reasonably pleased with the effort.The swans played a style of game that was designed to make it into a real scrap and thats what it was.
What I liked
Forward Pressure-The tackling and chasing from our forwards and onballers was fantastic.Bubba was throwing himself around like an idiot and made a real difference when he didnt have the ball.Cooney was also pretty impressive in that aspect.Had 6 tackles mid way through the third and some of them were crackers.
What I didn't like
Tall Forwards-Grant struggled as pretty much a lone tall target and doesn't have the ability to pull in 10 marks a game on a regular basis like Rawlings does.He is going to need more help down there from either Darcy or Rawlings.I thought Rawlings should have played forward yesterday because the swans forward line was pretty undermanned and was never going to hurt us.We just didnt look to be a threat in the air.
Hanballing Backward-I dont mind when they go backwards to create space but the amount of times the handpassed over there head to a stationary player was out of control.When we are under pressure like that we just need to get some distance on the ball down the line.Also thought this came about because we lacked another tall target leading up the ground from CHF.
What I liked
Forward Pressure-The tackling and chasing from our forwards and onballers was fantastic.Bubba was throwing himself around like an idiot and made a real difference when he didnt have the ball.Cooney was also pretty impressive in that aspect.Had 6 tackles mid way through the third and some of them were crackers.
What I didn't like
Tall Forwards-Grant struggled as pretty much a lone tall target and doesn't have the ability to pull in 10 marks a game on a regular basis like Rawlings does.He is going to need more help down there from either Darcy or Rawlings.I thought Rawlings should have played forward yesterday because the swans forward line was pretty undermanned and was never going to hurt us.We just didnt look to be a threat in the air.
Hanballing Backward-I dont mind when they go backwards to create space but the amount of times the handpassed over there head to a stationary player was out of control.When we are under pressure like that we just need to get some distance on the ball down the line.Also thought this came about because we lacked another tall target leading up the ground from CHF.
Good question.I wasn't at the ground but from what I gathered Bandy and Bowden were there at times.I just thought we brought the ball forward a little disjointed at times.When you have Gilbee coming out of the backline and your forced to back track because there is no tall leading down the line then something is wrong.Alot of the errors across half back seemed to be made because we were trying to create some run after having to chnage direction because there was not a player presenting.I have said more about it in my player reviews.Dry Rot said:
TheGnu
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We won...that has to be good. Should've won by more...that's not good.
For much of the game I sat bewildered as these guys in blue threw themselves at the ball and at the opposition, went straight and generally looked more committed than the team that fronted up last year. I have to agree with much of the good stuff said about Rohan Smith...the ultimatum has clearly been put to him and his aggro and approach were great.
No Williams, Keneally, Baz and Goodes left Sydney short-changed, but last year's side would have folded after having a few goals in a row kicked against them.
For much of the game I sat bewildered as these guys in blue threw themselves at the ball and at the opposition, went straight and generally looked more committed than the team that fronted up last year. I have to agree with much of the good stuff said about Rohan Smith...the ultimatum has clearly been put to him and his aggro and approach were great.
No Williams, Keneally, Baz and Goodes left Sydney short-changed, but last year's side would have folded after having a few goals in a row kicked against them.
Dog Town said:
Tha Saints backline looks undermanned at the moment, and we need a real option/target at CHF. If Rawlings play back, I don't either Bowden or Bandy are the answer.
Although Bandy covers alot of ground he isn't a genuine lead up the ground type.He gets alot of ball running back towards goal.Just out runs his opponent.With the swans pushing back so hard it wasn't really ideal for him yesterday because he didn't have the space to run into.I think he can be effective for us but we still need someone pushing up from CHF at the ball carrier and as you said Bandy isn't the man.Dry Rot said:
