Prediction Done & dusted

[Gasometer]

I partly agree with this.

The problem is it's the same things that keep happening that stop us from getting over the line.

Time for change.

So said Greg Chappel

 

[Horace]

I've probably spent too much time reading the "sympathy for *essendon" thread and so I'm in denial but I'm going to go out on a limb and say we will win the last 7 and get back into the top 4.

(Now, where did I leave my medicine?)

 

[Passmore]

TBH I think we have culture issues. The club (and fans) seem to be content with near enough is good enough, and are only too willing to grab any excuse to pat themselves on the back whenever they inevitably come up short.

I knew the season was lost when we barley beat Essendon. Got out to a comfortable lead and then just lazily stopped. Boomer was interviewed and said 'we got the four points so that's what matters'. The fans on the board were making excuses and congratulating the players. The sentiment was 'you can't expect the players to serve their best when playing Essendon. They will suprise many this year.'

We always had the toughest draw from there, and although we were undefeated we had a rubbish percentage because we were playing poorly. We needed percentage from that game but no one gave a shit because they were too lazy and four points was all that mattered.

Now everyone is blaming injuries. No, North aren't good enough its as simple as that. We have an ancient list with a bad culture. There's nothing to get excited about.

You make some fair points , but I'm not sure what a supporter can be expected to do about culture. At the end of the day, you support your team come what may. Enjoy the good. and unfortunately, accept the bad.

Delivering chicken poo, ranting on talk back radio, slamming a keyboard, abusing the players or not turning up to games hasn't really helped other teams.

 

[Hojuman]

I've probably spent too much time reading the "sympathy for *essendon" thread and so I'm in denial but I'm going to go out on a limb and say we will win the last 7 and get back into the top 4.

(Now, where did I leave my medicine?)

I've got it. Is it 3 or 4 times daily ?

 

[Contra Mundum]

Coming to a similar conclusion. Reminds me of 2008 in where I think it's heading. Teased a bit but started tracking towards an inevitable downswing and feeling the coach had taken the group as far as he was ever going to.

There are short term extenuating circumstances but I feel like I'm watching the same tape over and over under brad.

I can't believe I am going to articulate my darkest fear BUT maybe Brad is simply incapable of coaching a team into the grand final - plenty of chances

 

[naturally north]

Ray is not confirmed out next week. Nahas is fit to go.

Dal Softo coming back.

We are still in it, have big hopes

LOL piss off Viper

 

[Caracas]

I can't believe I am going to articulate my darkest fear BUT maybe Brad is simply incapable of coaching a team into the grand final - plenty of chances

We can think whatever we like. It's very simple really. Either we make the GF or else, we gone backwards, or we're running on the spot. Time will tell. Apart from that, we just have to suck it up....

 

[naturally north]

I can't believe I am going to articulate my darkest fear BUT maybe Brad is simply incapable of coaching a team into the grand final - plenty of chances

20,023 posts before this one, haven't followed your work closely, but am now thinking I should have.

 

[Mr Despondent]

I went and saw my psychic last weak and I said we are dung and dusted we wont win another game this year let alone next year but he said hold on despondent i reckon you wont be too bad after the eagles in fact i think you'll win a lot from here on.

Well I dunno but im going to cling on to that and over come my natural thoughts and think maybe we are still in for a shout.

 

[Horace]

I've got it. Is it 3 or 4 times daily ?

I can't remember.

 

[Hojuman]

I went and saw my psychic last weak and I said we are dung and dusted we wont win another game this year let alone next year but he said hold on despondent i reckon you wont be too bad after the eagles in fact i think you'll win a lot from here on.

Well I dunno but im going to cling on to that and over come my natural thoughts and think maybe we are still in for a shout.

I got out my ouija board last week and it told me that turnovers, loopy handballs, stupid free kicks & 50 metre penalties will cost us more games against better more disciplined teams above us on the ladder.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Recruiters are the issue - the difference is the skill level or the want to move.
We just bomb it - they hit up targets.

recruiters aren't responsible for skill levels. It's our development and line coaches that need to be looked at. And the bloke they all report to.

 

[RHLK]

Ray is not confirmed out next week. Nahas is fit to go.

Dal Softo coming back.

We are still in it, have big hopes

Thanks for the uplifting lols, worth a quote

 

[Zebrah]

I posted this in the autopsy thread but

That's our last 10 weeks.

Our year is basically over, but there are some overreactions happening at the moment.

Year is not over, but yes there are overreactions.


Looked like totally different team today.

No-one can tell me the following changes would mean at least two extra wins...and that would have us top:

Wells for Ray
Higgins for Mullett
McDonald for McKenzie
Waite for Wagner


Most sides can cope wth a couple of key outs, but FFS. Fit sides win flags. We can't do it with our current injury list, but we are not out of it.

 

[DrZaius]

Year is not over, but yes there are overreactions.


Looked like totally different team today.

No-one can tell me the following changes would mean at least two extra wins...and that would have us top:

Wells for Ray
Higgins for Mullett
McDonald for McKenzie
Waite for Wagner


Most sides can cope wth a couple of key outs, but FFS. Fit sides win flags. We can't do it with our current injury list, but we are not out of it.

I've said it before, if any side can win from outside the top 4 I honestly think we can. But we need a full strength team + full match fitness into the injured guys to even consider that.

Sadly the timing of our injuries makes it very difficult with guys returning at the very end of the H&A season.

 

[Hazey1977]

recruiters aren't responsible for skill levels. It's our development and line coaches that need to be looked at. And the bloke they all report to.

I'm wondering if the compromised draft years are now starting to show? We finish mid table and pick up a series of blokes in the late teens at the earliest. Taking the 'best' available approach, which has seen us become too much the same and lacking genuine classy mids? (With some pace)...

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[Rod Stroker]

I'm wondering if the compromised draft years are now starting to show? We finish mid table and pick up a series of blokes in the late teens at the earliest. Taking the 'best' available approach, which has seen us become too much the same and lacking genuine classy mids? (With some pace)...

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I don't know. Weren't Atley, Harper, McKenzie, Clarke, Mountford, etc, supposed to be the "genuine classy mids" that we picked up at our draft positions?

 

[ozzyoslo]

I don't know. Weren't Atley, Harper, McKenzie, Clarke, Mountford, etc, supposed to be the "genuine classy mids" that we picked up at our draft positions?

No and no

 

[koshari]

I don't know. Weren't Atley, Harper, McKenzie, Clarke, Mountford, etc, supposed to be the "genuine classy mids" that we picked up at our draft positions?

the drafts somewhat a lottery,
Have you ever heard of a bloke called Richard Tambling?

 

[Aberration]

Funny thing is, we probably have the best possible draw to make the Top 4 from here.

Next 3 are MUST wins to stay in touch and we should start favourites in all of them, at Etihad.

Dogs, Swans, Hawks and Giants games are all chances to take points off teams ahead of us. Should get a few key players back around this time as well.

It's in nobody's hands but our own. If we are good enough, we are still a shot.

 

[dus]

Wells, Waite, Nds all 30+. Injured
Dish, Scooter, Spud all 30+. Cooked.

We are old and we only have ourselves to blame.

We have a bunch of injury prone promising kids, and a few blokes that 'could' make a difference that the club but don't get the opportunities others are given.

We need a rebuild.

 

[Prefectionist]

West Coasts run home is as bad as ours.
Problem is if we beat Dogs we go to Adelaide in Wk2

Pray for GWS to start dropping the bundle from here on out.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Wells, Waite, Nds all 30+. Injured
Dish, Scooter, Spud all 30+. Cooked.

We are old and we only have ourselves to blame.

We have a bunch of injury prone promising kids, and a few blokes that 'could' make a difference that the club but don't get the opportunities others are given.

We need a rebuild.

You are contradicting yourself. If it proves something that three over 30 players are injured, what does the bunch of "injury prone" kids prove? What about all our draft picks last year being injured? We have been unlucky with injuries with players at all ages. No need to blame ourselves or anyone or anything. We have a well-balanced list and did very well when they were mostly available. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

 

[dus]

You are contradicting yourself. If it proves something that three over 30 players are injured, what does the bunch of "injury prone" kids prove? What about all our draft picks last year being injured? We have been unlucky with injuries with players at all ages. No need to blame ourselves or anyone or anything. We have a well-balanced list and did very well when they were mostly available. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

True, it's very frustrating.

I think we are carrying to many 30+ players is what I'm getting at. They are either injured, or not performing. Decisions need to be made at seasons end.

I can see merit in carrying a few injury prone youngsters if they look like guns. They have their whole career ahead of them still.

We can't do both.

 

[koshari]

True, it's very frustrating.

I think we are carrying to many 30+ players is what I'm getting at. They are either injured, or not performing. Decisions need to be made at seasons end.

I can see merit in carrying a few injury prone youngsters if they look like guns. They have their whole career ahead of them still.

We can't do both.

you need a balance of both, Hawthorn, Geelong and the Swans do it well, theres no value in tanking and attempting to recycling your list with rebuilds every few years like Carlton and Melbourne do.