Dream Team Squads Part 2

[LemmingMaster]

Just to make things clear, my comments have not been directed at anyone. My comments are more of an observation.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Just wondering if you have Raines in your squad. He should be a regular in the Tigers side this year as long as he can continually play at the same level he did last weekend against the Dockers.

My main worry with Raines is if he has a bad patch, two off weeks, he may be dropped.

Before the start of the NAB, I thought Raines may struggle to make it into the Tigers best 22. Still not sure if one game is enough to break into the Tigers best 22. (Good signs for the Tigers)

 

[CrozaN]

@Houli2Gumbleton. No, very good side ! Don't need to change anything IMO.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

@Houli2Gumbleton. No, very good side ! Don't need to change anything IMO.

Just my thought is that maybe some changes on the forward line might be good.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Just wondering if you have Raines in your squad. He should be a regular in the Tigers side this year as long as he can continually play at the same level he did last weekend against the Dockers. Doesn't cost much more than Hill and could end up being a keeper that cost nothing to start off with.

Yep, I have him in my side

 

[_RT_]

My main worry with Raines is if he has a bad patch, two off weeks, he may be dropped.

Before the start of the NAB, I thought Raines may struggle to make it into the Tigers best 22. Still not sure if one game is enough to break into the Tigers best 22. (Good signs for the Tigers)

Prior to the 08 season, Raines was seen as a possible midfield inclusion however he went down with the injury early and missed the rest of the season. I think with Cousins coming in and Coughlans possible returning Raines could well be looked upon to fill the small defenders role down back rather than moving to the midfield. It is the one weakness I see in the Tigers backline, they have tried King (who got found out by Jones), Tambling (I think they believe he can still cut it in the middle), McMahon & Newman (too attack orientated). IMO Raines can play as an accountable defender first and foremost but also knows when the right time to create is.

Having said all that, I think he will be given a fair crack early on to re-establish himself and as I said in the earlier post, if can play at the same sort of level as last weekend on a consistent basis, he should be in the 22 more weeks than not.

However, it should be noted that I am a Tigers fan and for the good of the side I hope that is the case. The best advice I can give to anyone contemplating Raines is to watch a copy of the Freo game (if you can) and then watch Thursday night and then make up your own mind on whether you think he is a worthy inclusion to your side.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Prior to the 08 season, Raines was seen as a possible midfield inclusion however he went down with the injury early and missed the rest of the season. I think with Cousins coming in and Coughlans possible returning Raines could well be looked upon to fill the small defenders role down back rather than moving to the midfield. It is the one weakness I see in the Tigers backline, they have tried King (who got found out by Jones), Tambling (I think they believe he can still cut it in the middle), McMahon & Newman (too attack orientated). IMO Raines can play as an accountable defender first and foremost but also knows when the right time to create is.

Having said all that, I think he will be given a fair crack early on to re-establish himself and as I said in the earlier post, if can play at the same sort of level as last weekend on a consistent basis, he should be in the 22 more weeks than not.

However, it should be noted that I am a Tigers fan and for the good of the side I hope that is the case. The best advice I can give to anyone contemplating Raines is to watch a copy of the Freo game (if you can) and then watch Thursday night and then make up your own mind on whether you think he is a worthy inclusion to your side.

Nice write-up mate
Would love to see Raines play alot of footy this year.

Anyway I need one more suggestion for the time being.

Should I have 2 youngsters in the backline + Mackie + Volt + Yarran (or even Sidebottom? or an 83k player which means I could upgrade some more forwards/backline players)

Or, should I have Gram + Adcock (instead of 2 youngsters, now just one) + Gia/Harvey + 83k player?

 

[KP78]

Any comments appreciated folks!

B: Fisher Goddard Enright Malceski Wojinski Petterd J Smith (Petrenko Suban)

M: Ablett Selwood Gibbs Judd Haselby Rich (Ziebell M Robinson)

R: Cox McIntosh (Currie Pyke)

F: Pavlich Deledio J.Brown Lucas Higgins Skipworth Yarran (Gumbleton Ballantyne)

10K leftover.

 

[Houli2Gumbleton]

Backs:

S.Fisher
Goddard
Cornes
H.Shaw
Malceski
Raines
Hill

Suban
Rance

Midfield:

G.Ablett
Bartel
Gibbs
Masten
Hasleby
Rich

Robinson
Swift

Rucks:

Cox
McIntosh

Currie
Pyke

Forward:

Pavlich
Richardson
Deledio
Lucas
Higgins
Sidebottom
Gumbleton

Ziebell
Balantyne

Team changed slightly...thoughts?

 

[MP_]

my team for the moment any suggestions appreciated

B - goddard, c cornes, lockyer, birchall, rivers, raines, hill - suban petrenko

M - swan, gibbs, boak, vince, haselby, skipworth - rich, swift

r - cox, maric - currie, j tippett

f - pavlich, deledio, n brown, d thomas, vesper, higgins, gumbleton - yarran, ziebell

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Any comments appreciated folks!

B: Fisher Goddard Enright Malceski Wojinski Petterd J Smith (Petrenko Suban)

M: Ablett Selwood Gibbs Judd Haselby Rich (Ziebell M Robinson)

R: Cox McIntosh (Currie Pyke)

F: Pavlich Deledio J.Brown Lucas Higgins Skipworth Yarran (Gumbleton Ballantyne)

10K leftover.

Your backline is too risky having Malceski, Wojinski, Petterd and Smith. Personally I think you should downgrade Ablett (to maybe a Cross) which allows you to upgrade Wojinski.
Besides that, I think your team is pretty strong.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Backs:

S.Fisher
Goddard
Cornes
H.Shaw
Malceski
Raines
Hill

Suban
Rance

Your backline is great, Good job Just like me you have taken the risk of starting Hilll and Ranies. Personally, im a but scared about that but hopefully it works out.

Midfield:

G.Ablett
Bartel
Gibbs
Masten
Hasleby
Rich

Robinson
Swift

Nice midfield. Interesting you have both Bartel and Ablett, I really thought it was impossible to have a great team and spend 1/7th of your cap on two players.

Rucks:

Cox
McIntosh

Currie
Pyke

Nice ruck

Forward:

Pavlich
Richardson
Deledio
Lucas
Higgins
Sidebottom
Gumbleton

Ziebell
Balantyne

Team changed slightly...thoughts?

Fantastic team, well done.
How much money do you have leftover?

 

[banana_bus]

Your backline is great, Good job Just like me you have taken the risk of starting Hilll and Ranies. Personally, im a but scared about that but hopefully it works out.


Nice midfield. Interesting you have both Bartel and Ablett, I really thought it was impossible to have a great team and spend 1/7th of your cap on two players.


Nice ruck

Fantastic team, well done.
How much money do you have leftover?

There will be donuts in that forward line.

Gumbleton will also pull you plenty sub 50 scores, being a young KPP.

But i guess having Ablett as captain will make up for that

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

There will be donuts in that forward line.

Gumbleton will also pull you plenty sub 50 scores, being a young KPP.

But i guess having Ablett as captain will make up for that

Hahah true.
He/She has Ziebell on the bench which should be starting infront of Gumby.
Lucas (not too sure about him) and Higgins should play all games if fit, so where will the donuts come from?

 

[KP78]

Your backline is too risky having Malceski, Wojinski, Petterd and Smith. Personally I think you should downgrade Ablett (to maybe a Cross) which allows you to upgrade Wojinski.
Besides that, I think your team is pretty strong.

Thanks very much Porps, I really appreciate the feedback and yeah, the backline was my main fear.I truly believe Wojinski is going to have a massive year, but I think I will take your advise and try and remove one of the other injury concerns down back.

What would you think about getting rid of Petterd for Hill and then upgrading Smith to say a Houlihan, something like that?

 

[banana_bus]

Hahah true.
He/She has Ziebell on the bench which should be starting infront of Gumby.
Lucas (not too sure about him) and Higgins should play all games if fit, so where will the donuts come from?

"If fit" being the key term there.

Not every player can play 22 games, and even the most consistent players get injured every now and then, I mean look at Pavlich last year.

Higgins is notoriously injury prone and Lucas is old.

Ziebell plays for the Roos, Gumby is injury prone, Sidebottom will struggle to get a game (imo) etc etc.

 

[_RT_]

Nice write-up mate
Would love to see Raines play alot of footy this year.

Anyway I need one more suggestion for the time being.

Should I have 2 youngsters in the backline + Mackie + Volt + Yarran (or even Sidebottom? or an 83k player which means I could upgrade some more forwards/backline players)

Or, should I have Gram + Adcock (instead of 2 youngsters, now just one) + Gia/Harvey + 83k player?

If it was me I would play it safe and go with Gram/Adcock/Gia or Harvey and $83k, for the simple reason that they are a safer option. However I would keep watching games or reading match reports of the NAB Challenge games that aren't televised. When it gets closer to the season you should then have a better idea as to who you want in your team, because although posters can give you advice about what to do, it all comes down to you in the end, because it is your team.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Thanks very much Porps, I really appreciate the feedback and yeah, the backline was my main fear.I truly believe Wojinski is going to have a massive year, but I think I will take your advise and try and remove one of the other injury concerns down back.

What would you think about getting rid of Petterd for Hill and then upgrading Smith to say a Houlihan, something like that?

Hey no probs mate.
If you really think he'll have a big year, stick with him.
I would think of downgrading someone and getting a player like Houlihan to be honest; it will really help your team

"If fit" being the key term there.

Not every player can play 22 games, and even the most consistent players get injured every now and then, I mean look at Pavlich last year.

Higgins is notoriously injury prone and Lucas is old.

Ziebell plays for the Roos, Gumby is injury prone, Sidebottom will struggle to get a game (imo) etc etc.

Yeah true. Lucas is a player that everyone seems to be getting, but I would defiently stay away, but Higgins I think is over his injuries.
Hopefully Ziebz will get some games even though Laidley doesnt usually play youngsters.

If it was me I would play it safe and go with Gram/Adcock/Gia or Harvey and $83k, for the simple reason that they are a safer option. However I would keep watching games or reading match reports of the NAB Challenge games that aren't televised. When it gets closer to the season you should then have a better idea as to who you want in your team, because although posters can give you advice about what to do, it all comes down to you in the end, because it is your team.

Cheers for that RT. Atm, I have the other option but I will deffiently keep my eye out. Im keen on the Gram/Adock etc etc .. one but that means I will have to start an 83k player. Also if I do the other option, I can upgrade an 83k midfielder to Hartlett so Dangerfield is on the bench (which for me is a safer option.)
But thanks again.

 

[Lakey91]

I assume this has been sparked with my most recent post. I throw a few names in to give people an idea of what I would do. You do have a point, though, but the last thing you want to see is a response from the person whose team has been analysed "who should I get then instead of X".

When I have recieved questions regarding some players I have had in my squad and whether people should include them in their squads, I don't tell posters whether they should include them or not. Instead my response has been to provide the reason why I picked that particular player and then I tell the poster that it is there choice if they want to include them.

I assume this might be aimed at me.
The players I recommend are only the highly known and talked about players. I have locked in a couple of different smokies, should any of them come up in conversation I will comment but i'll still recommend only the most popular options as examples. Should people want something different or do their own research it may pay off more than riding off everyone elses advice.

I think theres atleast a dozen good prospects which havent been talked about and another half dozen talked about only in mentioning. I think these minor differences should they pay off will perhaps make the difference. Besides though this is early times, between now and Round 1 no doubt much of my side will change due to injury, NAB cup forms and anything thats written or heard particularly quoted from coaches. By round 1 I think there will be more secret smokies as people just carbon copy the teams here posted and havent spent the time looking at players themselves.

First of all - wasnt directed at anyone! Was just a thought.

My point isnt dont talk about players, its just dont recommend the same players saying "downgrade so and so to higgins" cos then everyone will end up with a similar team. I know it doesnt matter come round 22 as trading, luck, captain choices have split everyone apart, but i think each should feel like their team is actually theirs.

 

[the egg]

Porps_is_HOT_loz could you give me some advice on my team?

 

[_RT_]

Cheers for that RT. Atm, I have the other option but I will deffiently keep my eye out. Im keen on the Gram/Adock etc etc .. one but that means I will have to start an 83k player. Also if I do the other option, I can upgrade an 83k midfielder to Hartlett so Dangerfield is on the bench (which for me is a safer option.)
But thanks again.

Just a question, why are you starting an $83k player for? Most of the people I know who do that tend to overspend on 'premiums' or midpriced players because of their reputations. Perhaps it might be wise to have a look over your team again and see if you've spent too much money getting a particular player when one just as effective might be a few thousand dollars cheaper, which in turn would allow you to upgrade your $83k player to a much safer option to start on the ground.

 

[Hodges]

Yeah true. Lucas is a player that everyone seems to be getting, but I would defiently stay away, but Higgins I think is over his injuries.
Hopefully Ziebz will get some games even though Laidley doesnt usually play youngsters.

Bradshaw anyone? Lucas is a proven performer, should be able to bounce back.

 

[DerpWerls]

Feedback Please

B: Enright, Campbell Brown, Wojinski, Garland, Tiller, Raines, Stephen Hill (Rance, McNamara)

M: Selwood, Gibbs, Judd, Cousins, Haselby, Rich, (Coughlan, Cockie)

R: Cox, Fraser (Naitinui, Graham)

F: Richo, Deledio, Giansiracusa, Fevola, Lonergan, Watts, Shane Edwards (Gumbleton Ziebell)

110K leftover.

A lot of Richmond, I know. Tried not to pick so many tigers... Only my 2nd DT year

 

[_RT_]

Any thoughts on my team thus far...

BACKS:
Fisher
Goddard
Cornes
Lockyer
Houlihan
Raines
Hill
(Petrenko, McKernan)

MID
Corey
Swan
Selwood
Gibbs
Rich
Robinson
(Swift, Davenport)

RUCK:
Cox
Ottens
(Currie, Jacobs)

FORWARD:
Pav
Deledio
Harvey
Gia
Higgins
Ziebell
Gumbleton
(Grant, Walker)

A solid squad with plenty of top end talent, but it seems you're relying on a lot of rookies to get games to start the season. It might help to remember that sides don't normally player all their better player in NAB Cup games so some rookies who are starting at the monent may not even be in the side come round 1. Best advice would be to pay close attention to the next few weeks of practice matches and NAB Cup games and try and get as much info as possible about the rookies you have starting on the ground. That way you can be as sure as possible that they will play round 1 and you wont cop 0's.

 

[the egg]

Just a question, why are you starting an $83k player for? Most of the people I know who do that tend to overspend on 'premiums' or midpriced players because of their reputations. Perhaps it might be wise to have a look over your team again and see if you've spent too much money getting a particular player when one just as effective might be a few thousand dollars cheaper, which in turn would allow you to upgrade your $83k player to a much safer option to start on the ground.

This man knows what he's on about. Too many people just go for the big names without thinking about who could score as well at a lesser price...example Kornes/Swan combo is not far behind a Ablett/Bartel combo. Also it's very ballsy starting 83k players...which is why my cheapest are Ziebell and Hill who should play games.

And to people starting Rich...goodluck. He's no running machine like Palmer playing in a crappy side without a tag so don't expect him to produce big numbers.