DT Preseason Form Guide 2011

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NORTH Melbourne defender Nathan Grima will miss the start of the season following surgery to a bulging disc in his back.
Grima suffered hip and leg pain on the second day of the club's altitude camp in Utah in November, and took no further part in the training with his teammates.
The pain worsened when he was in his home state of Tasmania over the Christmas break.
Grima sought the advice of an Adelaide-based specialist who determined that the 25-year-old had no choice but to undergo a partial discectomy.
"It had got to the stage where the bit that had broken away from the disc was pressing on some nerves which gave me a lot of pain in my leg and hip," Grima told kangaroos.com.au.
"It's just a lot of wear and tear. David Hall (the surgeon) said sometimes back injuries like this can date back a few years.
"I've had a sore back on and off for a few years but it usually clears up after a couple of days.
"I just presumed that with a bit of treatment I would be right, but a few days turned into a week and a week turned into a month and here we are."
While Grima is expected to spend 12 weeks in rehabilitation, he is confident he can return to full strength.
"Even though I was in pain, I could still smile knowing that in a few months' time I'll be back playing AFL footy," he said.
"People come back from injuries like this who are not full-time footballers and who don't have the medical resources we have ... so I know I'll come back at 100 percent.
"It's relieved the pain ... when I woke up from the surgery I didn't have any pain or tingles in my leg so [it's] so far so good."
Grima finished seventh in North's best and fairest count after a 17-game season in which he emerged as its most important backman.
Having joined the club's rookie list at the end of 2007, he missed the entire 2008 season because of a knee reconstruction.
Grima played 13 games in his 2009 debut season, but faced another injury hurdle when he broke a finger in February 2010.
 
Finally some news from Hawthorn. Jordan Lewis is down for a few weeks with a calf injury and the big man Max Bailey has had a set back on his knee. No one really knows the nature of the injury, but even if minor, it makes you think twice about picking him.
 
Finally some news from Hawthorn. Jordan Lewis is down for a few weeks with a calf injury and the big man Max Bailey has had a set back on his knee. No one really knows the nature of the injury, but even if minor, it makes you think twice about picking him.

If he's named round 1 and you're picking him as your 4th ruck then there's really not that much risk as you never really expect your 4th ruck to contribute anyway.
 

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On Hargrave from Dogs board on BF:

Family friend works as a nurse at hospital where Hargrave had surgery..i asked her what went on...she said " he tried running weeks before he should've and broke bones and undid all the work they did in surgery"
Not good news for Shaggy






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THE AFL playing future of star West Coast Eagles rover Daniel Kerr goes on the line later this month when he attempts to resume full training.



Kerr, 27, suffered a horrendous hamstring tear last April just seconds before half-time against Essendon and has undergone a delicate recovery schedule in a bid to salvage his injury-savaged career.


West Coast coach John Worsfold has all but ruled the gifted rover out of next month’s NAB Cup competition.


Kerr is also highly likely to miss early 2011 premiership season games.
 

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Not the greatest news for Bernie.


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ADELAIDE is confident star midfielder Bernie Vince can play for another "six or seven years" despite the best-and-fairest winner nursing a degenerative knee injury similar to the one that threatened to end Andrew McLeod's career.

Vince had the lateral meniscus in his left knee removed after twisting awkwardly while tackling Brisbane Lions veteran Luke Power in round 20 last season.

The 25-year-old recovered in time to complete the first block of pre-season training but reported soreness in his knee prior to Christmas and was scheduled for more surgery.

He was expected to return to full training in mid-January, but is yet to progress past running laps and is set to miss the Crows' NAB Cup opener against Port Adelaide and Melbourne on February 11.

Football operations manager Phil Harper said Vince's injury would require ongoing management for the rest of his career.

"Bernie is progressing a bit slower than we would've hoped, but we're still aiming for him to play in the second round of the NAB Cup," Harper told afl.com.au.

"It's a bit similar to Andrew McLeod's injury, with the amount of cartilage left in Bernie's knee. It’s an ongoing management issue, but he should be able to play for another six or seven years.

"If Bernie could play 340 games and play until he was 34 years of age like Andrew did we'd be pretty happy. I don't envisage him playing until 34, but he should still get to age 30 pretty easily."

Injured wingman David Mackay is also aiming to play in round two of the pre-season competition.

Mackay had surgery on his groin in November but Harper said the 22-year-old would be ready to join in full training following the club's trip to the Gold Coast next week.

"David is doing a mini pre-season because he missed all of the first part of the actual pre-season. He'll be right to play by round two or three of the NAB Cup and should be up, fit and firing by round one," Harper said.

"We think we have just enough time left to get him cherry ripe for round one, but we don’t need any more setbacks, so we’ve been pretty cautious with him."

Mackay has been dogged by injury since joining Adelaide via pick No.48 in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft.

The 55-gamer won the Mark Bickley award, which recognises the achievements of a first or second-year player, and finished 11th in the Crows' best and fairest in 2008.

Chris Knights, who injured his quad two weeks ago, will join in full training on the Gold Coast, as will ruckman James Craig, who has been cleared of structural damage after injuring his knee in a tackling drill earlier in the week.

Second-year player Sam Shaw (back) and rookie Chris Schmidt (knee) remain on modified programs.
 
That's a quad strain in 2006, 2008 and now 2011 for Knights! Last year he even managed to strain his "side"... side of what you may ask. :confused:

He's the type of guy that would cop a soft tissue injury when wiping his arse with Sorbent.

"Knighta" is on a mission to "strain" every muscle in his body; buyer beware!
 
That's a quad strain in 2006, 2008 and now 2011 for Knights! Last year he even managed to strain his "side"... side of what you may ask. :confused:

He's the type of guy that would cop a soft tissue injury when wiping his arse with Sorbent.

"Knighta" is on a mission to "strain" every muscle in his body; buyer beware!

I agree but hes such a class player and can put up midfield type numbers.

Once he retruns to pre season he needs to have an interrupted preseason from than on to the start of the season, or i probably wont pick him. Quite a decent amount of solid forward midpricers like there is every year.

Morton, Petterd, Knights, Varcoe, Petrie, Tippett, Gray, Porpz, Roughead and good rookies aswell it seems.
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I think you need to treat Knights like Burton from a couple of years ago. You know his body won't hold up for the whole year so he's not a keeper but the price is too good to ignore. So make your 100-150K, upgrade him when the time is right and get out of Dodge. Problem is while he's there he'll be putting up keeper type numbers so you can't really offload until he goes down.

Either way he'll cost a trade.
 
Knights is great. Goal scorer. Possession getter. But due to his questionable durability I'll give him a miss.

Why waste the trade?
 
Knights is great. Goal scorer. Possession getter. But due to his questionable durability I'll give him a miss.

Why waste the trade?

why you would "waste" a trade is if you believe he can agerage 70+ for 6-7 games, then he will be a "straight swap" to a premium. (whilst putting up very good scores for 220k). Anything else you buy for that price will need atleast 1 trade anyway.
 
why you would "waste" a trade is if you believe he can agerage 70+ for 6-7 games, then he will be a "straight swap" to a premium. (whilst putting up very good scores for 220k). Anything else you buy for that price will need atleast 1 trade anyway.

Good point. Thanks.

Any thoughts on Matt de Boer?
 
Good point. Thanks.

Any thoughts on Matt de Boer?

Love him as a player, fearless and totally team orientated. ATM from a DT perspective his role as a fwd tagger will not allow him to get enough ball to be relevant.

That said, he's building his tank and possibly being groomed to take over from Crowley / McPhee tagging through the midfield. He may get stints through there this year but hard to see him improving enough this year to be a worthwhile pick.
 

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