DT Squads Part Three

[King Arthur]

What is with all these people starting Hill?

Why not? There is no other decent scoring rookies who will play as often as Hill and after Grimes' injury, no other prospects in the 150-240k bracket except for the obvious Mr.Raines. A rookie in the backline looks alot better this year then last and i think Hill is the man to fill that void.

 

[Lakey91]

All players price is based on their performance last year. So it's not really convincing to get rid of somebody because they're not a good DTer, because in that case they will be cheaper.

It would be different if they were expected to score less than they did the year before. But Maxwell is pushing up to the wing more, he should improve a little this year. (but by no means my best pick in the team)

Averaged between 49 and 60 in the past 4 years...

 

[Bordo89]

What is with all these people starting Hill?

Why not? There is no other decent scoring rookies who will play as often as Hill and after Grimes' injury, no other prospects in the 150-240k bracket except for the obvious Mr.Raines. A rookie in the backline looks alot better this year then last and i think Hill is the man to fill that void.

YEH ! what he said

 

[Atavistic]

I have taken some suggestions on board, and this is what my team looks like

I think this is my final team, what does everyone think ???

Looks half decent. I wouldn't have Dempsey, McLean or Staker, but that's just me. I particularly like the rucks - nice solid pairing there.

I think I have 15 or 16 of the same players as you.

 

[Saint KFC]

Why not?

The lack of depth in the defensive rookies? Keep in mind that your bench rookies are there for more than just giving cover for your onfield rookie - they also have to cover 6 other players aswell. Raines gets a two-week niggle injury and Petrenko/Suban/Broughton haven't been named. You're pretty much stuffed, not to mention if Hill isn't a regular. Starting a rookie in the backs is just asking for trouble IMO.

There is no other decent scoring rookies who will play as often as Hill and after Grimes' injury, no other prospects in the 150-240k bracket except for the obvious Mr.Raines. A rookie in the backline looks alot better this year then last and i think Hill is the man to fill that void.

For a start, there are alot of prospects in that range. Houlihan, Collier, Geary, Petterd to name a few. Secondly, last year has no relevance on this year - look objectively at the depth in the backs, and ask yourself - will these two players get a game often enough to cover the rookie I am starting + the other 6 players?

 

[Lakey91]

Why not? There is no other decent scoring rookies who will play as often as Hill and after Grimes' injury, no other prospects in the 150-240k bracket except for the obvious Mr.Raines. A rookie in the backline looks alot better this year then last and i think Hill is the man to fill that void.

Ah? Isnt this exactly why you should leave him on the bench?

Because: "Theres no other decent scoring rookies who will play..."?

Means you will be left with little cover IMO, and when most of BF posters are getting chad who isnt most durable player going around, I sense a few donuts!

 

[Crazy22]

people seem to have jumped off harvey in their forward line... is there any reason?

 

[happy_eagle]

people seem to have jumped off harvey in their forward line... is there any reason?

ssshhhh
Dont tell them

Starting a rookie in the backs is just asking for trouble IMO.

What about starting 2 rookies in the backs

 

[Saint KFC]

What about starting 2 rookies in the backs

Great option. I also suggest selecting the majority (if not all) of these players: Cornes, Raines, Drummond, Malceski and Wheatley.

 

[Cruiser23]

The lack of depth in the defensive rookies? Keep in mind that your bench rookies are there for more than just giving cover for your onfield rookie - they also have to cover 6 other players aswell. Raines gets a two-week niggle injury and Petrenko/Suban/Broughton haven't been named. You're pretty much stuffed, not to mention if Hill isn't a regular. Starting a rookie in the backs is just asking for trouble IMO.

For a start, there are alot of prospects in that range. Houlihan, Collier, Geary, Petterd to name a few. Secondly, last year has no relevance on this year - look objectively at the depth in the backs, and ask yourself - will these two players get a game often enough to cover the rookie I am starting + the other 6 players?

I've been back and forth with the idea of starting Hill of late. From the pre-season, it seems he can become a prominent scorer pretty quickly because of his very big tank. Therefore him on the ground is probably better, scoring wise in the short term because you then take into account the extra money you get, you can upgrade on of your mid ranged players to a keeper. Long term though you MAY find yourself in a bit of strife though.

The backline rookies aren't great and not having Hill on the bench leaves you fairly vulnerable with not only getting zeros in defense but also providing more cash cow options.

I see it as a risk/reward situation like most things in DT and after being fairly certain of starting a few days back, right now i'm not sure again.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

Great option. I also suggest selecting the majority (if not all) of these players: Cornes, Raines, Drummond, Malceski and Wheatley.

You just named my whole backline!

 

[Crazy22]

ssshhhh
Dont tell them


What about starting 2 rookies in the backs

is that sarcasm or what? im confused...

 

[Saint KFC]

I've been back and forth with the idea of starting Hill of late. From the pre-season, it seems he can become a prominent scorer pretty quickly because of his very big tank.

True, but you also have to consider whether or not he will get rested/avoid contact due to his slender frame. After a year or two in the gym, his game will benifet greatly. You have to hand it to Freo, even though they've traded like crap, they've drafted fairly well - Palmer, Mayne, Ibbotson, Hill and maybe Suban and Broughton.

Therefore him on the ground is probably better, scoring wise in the short term because you then take into account the extra money you get, you can upgrade on of your mid ranged players to a keeper. Long term though you MAY find yourself in a bit of strife though.

In my opinion, the elevated risk of copping zero compared to other position nullifies the positive benifets. That's only my opinion though, as I like to mitigate my risk as much as possible.

I see it as a risk/reward situation like most things in DT.

The problem with rookies is that they are an unknown quantity - will they get enough games, what is their durability like, will their scoring propensity (or lack thereof) translate into poor DT scores once in the AFL, just how prone are they to form slumps etc. For that reason, I personally don't like to start any more than two rookies in my entire team - I was burnt last year badly by putting too much faith in rookies, and in hindsight it was a risk that I shouldn't have taken. Too many variables, not enough assurances and therefore a greater chance for it to come back and bite you in the ass. In my eyes, this is magnified in the backline due to the lack of rookie options.

 

[kangaroo19]

I must admit, starting Hill or not is doing my head in the most. Basically, the only way he can fit into my team is to be on the field as the 7th back, and shift Houlihan forward. The other alternative would be to shift Houlihan to the backs, and then play Krakouer in the forward line as the 5th forward with Hentshel and Z-ball on the field (Walker/Brown bench). The money saved would let me do a Selwood-->Swan upgrade or something like that.

 

[Crazy22]

so back to my question... is there any reason y people r jumping off b harvey ?

 

[Athomas]

so back to my question... is there any reason y people r jumping off b harvey ?

He's getting old. Too many good options to pass up around his price. Could be good for a 90-95 average though.

 

[Cruiser23]

True, but you also have to consider whether or not he will get rested/avoid contact due to his slender frame. After a year or two in the gym, his game will benifet greatly. You have to hand it to Freo, even though they've traded like crap, they've drafted fairly well - Palmer, Mayne, Ibbotson, Hill and maybe Suban and Broughton.

TBH i hadn't even considered Hill until a month or two ago because i thought with his body, weight close to 70kg he will struggle to cope with the riggers of AFL footy. I thought the Dockers would put him on ice for the first half of the year and play him late in the piece. I know he played in the WAFL most of the year last year and coped well but this is a player they took with pick 3 so i thought they may be a little tentative with him, especially considering the way he plays. They have done pretty well in the draft of late and i think they picked up a few quality players late in this years draft like Bucovaz and Walters.

In my opinion, the elevated risk of copping zero compared to other position nullifies the positive benifets. That's only my opinion though, as I like to mitigate my risk as much as possible.

No that's a fair point, i guess it depend on the backline people decide to go with, whether their history with injury is positive or negative.

The problem with rookies is that they are an unknown quantity - will they get enough games, what is their durability like, will their scoring propensity (or lack thereof) translate into poor DT scores once in the AFL, just how prone are they to form slumps etc. For that reason, I personally don't like to start any more than two rookies in my entire team - I was burnt last year badly by putting too much faith in rookies, and in hindsight it was a risk that I shouldn't have taken. Too many variables, not enough assurances and therefore a greater chance for it to come back and bite you in the ass. In my eyes, this is magnified in the backline due to the lack of rookie options.

If you do your research you can nullify those unknown quantities somewhat. Obviously you can't totally but you can get a fair idea on what they are capable of. Obviously that's true though, rookies are risky business but you can reap the benefits. Normally if you have 3/4 rookies capable of playing early games and score fairly well you'd look to start 1. For the backline this year though, Hill is basically the only one, i guess you could agree Broughton and Suban case but the issue still stands, it's risk business considering the options.

 

[lifelike_]

Hill's on my bench and I've got no plans to start him.

It doesn't bother me that I might potentially have 60 points sitting on the bench each week, I'm far more concerned about generating money for upgrades. I'm prepared to sacrifice a few points early on by having a bit more money on the bench if it means a huge long term gain.

I've got no doubt there'll be people whinging about having no money to upgrade players with midway through the season.

 

[IRSISRSRI]

Averaged between 49 and 60 in the past 4 years...

Uh yeah... so he is priced like a player who did. You get how they price players right?

Every layer who had a full season last year in the same price bracket would have averaged the same.


I picked him because he potentially has a bigger role this season.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

Uh yeah... so he is priced like a player who did. You get how they price players right?

Every layer who had a full season last year in the same price bracket would have averaged the same.


I picked him because he potentially has a bigger role this season.

Ok, so what do you think Maxwell will average this seson? Personally I can only see him averaging 65-70 at best.

 

[Crazy22]

is goddard out for 1-2 weeks or is this a rumour?

 

[Willie Stark]

Any feedback would be much appreciated! This is the first year I have really taken DT seriously, so I would like to do well.

Backs: Hodge, Goddard, C Cornes, Bock, Drummond, Raines, Hill (Petrenko, Broughton)

Mids: Ablett, Gibbs, Judd, Masten, Mackay, Rich (Davenport, Robinson)

Rucks: Cox, McIntosh (Giles, Spencer)

Forwards: Pavlich, Deledio, Chapman, Houlihan, Higgins, Skipworth, Hentschel (Walker, Garlett)

I have $70,000 left in the cap. Are there any obvious changes that need to be made? Also is it smart to have two players (Gibbs, Judd) from the same team in the mids? I wasn't sure, but I think they are both going to have big years.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

is goddard out for 1-2 weeks or is this a rumour?

Where did you hear that?

 

[Crow_68]

Any feedback would be much appreciated! This is the first year I have really taken DT seriously, so I would like to do well.

Backs: Hodge, Goddard, C Cornes, Bock, Drummond, Raines, Hill (Petrenko, Broughton)

Mids: Ablett, Gibbs, Judd, Masten, Mackay, Rich (Davenport, Robinson)

Rucks: Cox, McIntosh (Giles, Spencer)

Forwards: Pavlich, Deledio, Franklin, Houlihan, Higgins, Skipworth, Walker (Gumbleton, Garlett)

I have $88,700 left in the cap. Are there any obvious changes that need to be made? Also is it smart to have two players (Gibbs, Judd) from the same team in the mids? I wasn't sure, but I think they are both going to have big years.

Willie,
I would look at downgrading Judd to someone like a Travis Tuck, downgrade Bock & use the generated cash to upgrade Gumbleton or Garlett. Shift Walker to the bench & you will be ready to go.

 

[force65]

one more spot left in my backline....

Fisher, Cornes, P burgoyne, Shaw, Drummond and Raines

this players needs to be a keeper below 377k

whats the best option