Past Dylan Buckley
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Beloved
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Just reading in an old article:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...ley-keen-to-fire/story-e6frf9jf-1225886876732
Do like.
Just reading in an old article:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...ley-keen-to-fire/story-e6frf9jf-1225886876732
Do like.
thylacine60
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Is Dylan training with the club yet?
Is Dylan training with the club yet?
son of dominator
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
DB hasn't been mentioned in the recent write ups on the AFL website about the best midfielders and top 25 picks etc in this upcoming draft, so hopefully we can pick him up for a 2nd or 3rd round pick
DB hasn't been mentioned in the recent write ups on the AFL website about the best midfielders and top 25 picks etc in this upcoming draft, so hopefully we can pick him up for a 2nd or 3rd round pick
Blue and Silver
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Splendini!
I call upon your mighty powers. Rise and UPDATE!!!
Splendini!
I call upon your mighty powers. Rise and UPDATE!!!
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
I'm not sure where Dylan is at injury/training wise....I certainly don't have him in my own top 25, so he's a second rounder for mine.
I'm not sure where Dylan is at injury/training wise....I certainly don't have him in my own top 25, so he's a second rounder for mine.
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
What type of injury has kept him out for nearly entire year?
What type of injury has kept him out for nearly entire year?
Blue and Silver
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
And the great one, having spoketh, honored those who did heareth his words, and they did taketh that update and spread as gospel, for that was the way of the Big Footy
And the great one, having spoketh, honored those who did heareth his words, and they did taketh that update and spread as gospel, for that was the way of the Big Footy
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Blue and Silver
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thylacine60
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Forsooth, my past inquiring doth remain unanswered.
Forsooth, my past inquiring doth remain unanswered.
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
My understanding is that he will commence in November along with all the boys.
Look forward to reporting on him in the off-season.
Forsooth, my past inquiring doth remain unanswered.
My understanding is that he will commence in November along with all the boys.
Look forward to reporting on him in the off-season.
Bluebear
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Should be cured in about a month.
Its called "fathersonbiddingsystemitis".
Should be cured in about a month.
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Blues to bypass skinny draft with sons of guns
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...y-draft-with-sons-of-guns-20110329-1cesl.html
I don't know if this has been puit here before.
An article on Buckley from Ms. Quayle
Blues to bypass skinny draft with sons of guns
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...y-draft-with-sons-of-guns-20110329-1cesl.html
I don't know if this has been puit here before.
An article on Buckley from Ms. Quayle
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
surely not even we would try that one.
Injury?????????????
Its called "fathersonbiddingsystemitis".
Should be cured in about a month.
surely not even we would try that one.
Injury?????????????
blueboys4lyfe
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- Sep 29, 2011
- 98
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Any news on this kid? is he worth our first pick and do we have to use it on him?
Any news on this kid? is he worth our first pick and do we have to use it on him?
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
It's official.
Papers launched today .............
http://twitter.com/#!/AFL_JasonPhelan/status/122198125875179520
It's official.
Papers launched today .............
http://twitter.com/#!/AFL_JasonPhelan/status/122198125875179520
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Patrick Keane has just said on twitter we'll be taking Dylan Buckley with our last draft pick.
Yay!
Patrick Keane has just said on twitter we'll be taking Dylan Buckley with our last draft pick.
Yay!
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Great work by the Club.
Jimmy is my all-time favorite Carlton player.
Will watch Dylan with real interest.
Great work by the Club.
Jimmy is my all-time favorite Carlton player.
Will watch Dylan with real interest.
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Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Dylan Buckley joins the Blues
Dylan Buckley joins the Blues
Dylan Buckley joins the Blues
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
There is honestly no way this could have worked out better for us. This may indicate that other clubs don't rate him, but him going at #98 or #22 doesn't change how good he is. It just means we have no risk.
For what it's worth, I think he will be a jet, and it's not surprising that clubs let him go. I have seen a tiny bit of footage and along with everything I've heard, he is a solid height for a mid (183cm) with good pace, good dual-sided skills, a lot of confidence (whilst maintaining a humble and respectful attitude) and a hard streak. The downsides are that he is very light (just under 70kg) and has had a lot of injury trouble over the past 2 years, which obviously makes picking him on 16yo form very speculative. That is why I think other clubs wouldn't bother bidding - he looks a solid prospect, but injury has limited how much they've been able to see him and why bother pissing us off by forcing us to use a higher pick? Down the track, we will afford other clubs the same treatment. You never give an opponent a break, but it's more advantageous to show some respect in these situations.
The big question mark for me is simply his body. Are these injuries likely to recur? Will he be able to put on the necessary bulk? Aside from those two, with a bit of luck, he should at the very least become a very solid player - nothing lacking in terms of skills, athleticism, hardness. In an ideal world he might become a star, but if he continues on the track that he was on in U16s, he will comfortably fit in to our midfield rotation in 2-3 years. We need no reminder as to how important midfield depth is in the modern game.
What makes me optimistic is that:
- he seems confident, yet grounded and realistic about where he's at. I don't doubt that much of this would stem from a former Carlton legend as a father constantly reminding him of the hard work & sacrifice involved, and the honour of representing Carlton (and indeed being on AFL list at all). That sort of tempered confidence is probably an undervalued commodity in players IMO as having genuine self-belief and confidence in your ability makes you more motivated - you want to work harder, you set ambitious goals for yourself and you're willing to put in the hard yards because you know you're good enough to reach them.
- he has spent the best part of two years practically in the AFL system. Working with AFL coaches, receiving advice from an AFL perspective and making decisions with a guaranteed AFL career in mind. Sore shoulder? Rest it. Broken ankle? Get surgery immediately and rest. He had absolutely no reason to rush back from injury to get runs on the board as he was already coming to us. I'm sure there are players willing to play at less than 100% in their last two years to ensure they get drafted, whereas Dylan would have only played when he & Carlton decided he was fit - basically the luxury of focusing solely on the long-term.
- solid all-round player. The things that often stop someone making it to AFL IMO are: poor skills, poor football brain, soft at the contest, lack of athleticism (and of course injuries). If you suffer from any of those, unless you can magically cure your deficiencies, you are going to be limited going forward. Aside from the injuries, he hasn't got any outstandingly bad traits that will stop him having an AFL career. Maybe you could describe him as "vanilla" (which would be incorrect IMO) but the big hype draftees always have a few outstanding traits. The more solid, less flashy types can slip down the order. Geelong as an example in 2009...Menzel, Duncan, Christensen. Good solid players with few deficiencies. They have done alright.
Yep - this has been a long post and he may not be able to pick up where he left off in U16s, but in these last two years, there was no incentive to rush him back whatsoever. I'm personally very happy with this pick-up and the fact we only have to use our last pick is the icing on the cake - no risk, no pressure!
So let's hope he really grasps this opportunity with both hands and works his arse off. Overcoming injuries is tough for young players, with the monotonous rehab and patience required. He's got a long way to go but if he's professional and works hard, I think we have a bargain on our hands. Looking forward to see how he fares in the pre-season!
There is honestly no way this could have worked out better for us. This may indicate that other clubs don't rate him, but him going at #98 or #22 doesn't change how good he is. It just means we have no risk.
For what it's worth, I think he will be a jet, and it's not surprising that clubs let him go. I have seen a tiny bit of footage and along with everything I've heard, he is a solid height for a mid (183cm) with good pace, good dual-sided skills, a lot of confidence (whilst maintaining a humble and respectful attitude) and a hard streak. The downsides are that he is very light (just under 70kg) and has had a lot of injury trouble over the past 2 years, which obviously makes picking him on 16yo form very speculative. That is why I think other clubs wouldn't bother bidding - he looks a solid prospect, but injury has limited how much they've been able to see him and why bother pissing us off by forcing us to use a higher pick? Down the track, we will afford other clubs the same treatment. You never give an opponent a break, but it's more advantageous to show some respect in these situations.
The big question mark for me is simply his body. Are these injuries likely to recur? Will he be able to put on the necessary bulk? Aside from those two, with a bit of luck, he should at the very least become a very solid player - nothing lacking in terms of skills, athleticism, hardness. In an ideal world he might become a star, but if he continues on the track that he was on in U16s, he will comfortably fit in to our midfield rotation in 2-3 years. We need no reminder as to how important midfield depth is in the modern game.
What makes me optimistic is that:
- he seems confident, yet grounded and realistic about where he's at. I don't doubt that much of this would stem from a former Carlton legend as a father constantly reminding him of the hard work & sacrifice involved, and the honour of representing Carlton (and indeed being on AFL list at all). That sort of tempered confidence is probably an undervalued commodity in players IMO as having genuine self-belief and confidence in your ability makes you more motivated - you want to work harder, you set ambitious goals for yourself and you're willing to put in the hard yards because you know you're good enough to reach them.
- he has spent the best part of two years practically in the AFL system. Working with AFL coaches, receiving advice from an AFL perspective and making decisions with a guaranteed AFL career in mind. Sore shoulder? Rest it. Broken ankle? Get surgery immediately and rest. He had absolutely no reason to rush back from injury to get runs on the board as he was already coming to us. I'm sure there are players willing to play at less than 100% in their last two years to ensure they get drafted, whereas Dylan would have only played when he & Carlton decided he was fit - basically the luxury of focusing solely on the long-term.
- solid all-round player. The things that often stop someone making it to AFL IMO are: poor skills, poor football brain, soft at the contest, lack of athleticism (and of course injuries). If you suffer from any of those, unless you can magically cure your deficiencies, you are going to be limited going forward. Aside from the injuries, he hasn't got any outstandingly bad traits that will stop him having an AFL career. Maybe you could describe him as "vanilla" (which would be incorrect IMO) but the big hype draftees always have a few outstanding traits. The more solid, less flashy types can slip down the order. Geelong as an example in 2009...Menzel, Duncan, Christensen. Good solid players with few deficiencies. They have done alright.
Yep - this has been a long post and he may not be able to pick up where he left off in U16s, but in these last two years, there was no incentive to rush him back whatsoever. I'm personally very happy with this pick-up and the fact we only have to use our last pick is the icing on the cake - no risk, no pressure!
So let's hope he really grasps this opportunity with both hands and works his arse off. Overcoming injuries is tough for young players, with the monotonous rehab and patience required. He's got a long way to go but if he's professional and works hard, I think we have a bargain on our hands. Looking forward to see how he fares in the pre-season!
Mister Carlton
Better than you.
Re: Dylan Buckley - 2011 Father-Son selection
Congrats to Dylan Buckley. Can't wait for the preseason to check him out. #nohomo
Congrats to Dylan Buckley. Can't wait for the preseason to check him out. #nohomo
