Updated Easey St Murders Collingwood * ARREST MADE

[GreyCrow]

i see channel 7 are running with a story that italian police say he is also a suspect in julie garciacelay's disappearance,surely that cant be right?

I might offer another explanation

Maybe the Italian police dont want to be seen handing over someone from a 50 year old case and have added some mayo to make him seem dangerous

Just a thought

 

[Kurve]

Only hours away now, he's on his way.

Suspect in murders of two women to be extradited after decades-long cold case

The slayings of the two friends were dubbed the ‘Easey St murders’ and became one of Australia’s long-running cold cases.

7news.com.au

 

[Kurve]

The Greek Times also has Kouroumblis linked to the murder of Julie.

Kouroumblis is wanted in Australia for questioning in connection with the notorious Easey Street double murder, which occurred and resulted in the deaths of 27-year-old Susan Bartlett and 28-year-old Suzanne Armstrong.

He is also a suspect in the disappearance of 19-year-old Julie Garciacelay, who vanished from her North Melbourne flat in July 1975. A Victorian coroner declared Garciacelay a victim of homicide in 2018.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2024/12/01/kouroumblis-extradition-imminent/

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[Kurve]

im thinking someone over there has looked up the case and seen a possible link to that crime,so have run with it,but that possible link was john grant & the othere two beauties he was with that night

Wikipedia has the Easey Street killer linked to Julie's murder by the common link of the crime reporter who became a suspect as a friend of Julie's, and who also was staying over in the house next door where the girls were murdered.

 

[Kurve]

 

[jimmytigs]

Wikipedia has the Easey Street killer linked to Julie's murder by the common link of the crime reporter who became a suspect as a friend of Julie's and who also was staying over in the house next door where the girls were murdered.

yes exactly,the link is to john grant,not to pk,so the italian police are full of shit,with pk looking good for easey street there is no more link,overwhelming probability is that either john joseph power or rhys tommy collins killed julie garciacelay,whichever one of them remained with her when the other 2(along with grant)went out to get pizza,i will be totally stunned if grant was the one that stayed with Julie,for sure it was power or collins & that was the person who murdered her

 

[Kurve]

He's landed and to be interviewed, at a guess tomorrow?

Easey Street murder suspect to face charges of murder, rape after extradition

After arriving on a late-night flight under police guard, Perry Kouroumblis is set to face court later today over the alleged double murder of two Melbourne women in 1977.

www.abc.net.au

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[Sqotty from office works]

He's landed and to be interviewed, at a guess tomorrow?

Easey Street murder suspect to face charges of murder, rape after extradition

After arriving on a late-night flight under police guard, Perry Kouroumblis is set to face court later today over the alleged double murder of two Melbourne women in 1977.

www.abc.net.au

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Has channel 7 reported on what food he ate on the aeroplane?
Did he speak to stewardesses?
Is he as yet guilty of any crime?
Was the policeman who let him get away with driving at the age of 17 suspended over shoddy work practices?

 

[Kurve]

Has channel 7 reported on what food he ate on the aeroplane?
Did he speak to stewardesses?
Is he as yet guilty of any crime?
Was the policeman who let him get away with driving at the age of 17 suspended over shoddy work practices?

 

[jim180167]

Looks like a set up to get him out of Greece, but the gloves are off with this sort of crime. They have already matched the DNA to a relative, that is what I have read, so he is their man.

 

[Kurve]

Back in court February 26, 2025.

Mr Kouroumblis faced a brief filing hearing in the Melbourne Magistrates' Court on Wednesday afternoon.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12...-murderer-perry-kouroumblis-charged/104682468

 

[kaiserchief13]

If he was 17 years old when he allegedly committed the crimes would he be sentenced as an adult, if he is guilty?

 

[GrayRanga]

If he was 17 years old when he allegedly committed the crimes would he be sentenced as an adult, if he is guilty?

The Death Penalty for a convicion of Murder was abolished in Victoria in 1974, and was replaced by a mandatory sentence of imprisonment for the term of the person's natural life.

Prior to the abolition of the Death Penalty, a person concicted of a murder committed under the age of 18 was sentenced to be detained at the Governor's Pleasure (an indefinite sentence)

From memory, the changes to the Crimes Act 1958 in 1974 didn't differentiate between the age of the offender at the time of the commission of the offence

However, all persons sentenced to imprisonment for the term of their natural life could apply to the Supreme Court to have a minimum term fixed upon the sentence

If he goes down, the Sentencing Judge can take into consideration his age at the time of the commission of the offence, his current age, the offences and the fact he did a runner.

 

[Eaglette01]

Wonder if PK's spent any time in WA

We've plenty of missing/murdered here in the Wild Wild West !!!

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

ACCUSED EASEY STREET KILLER FACES COURT CHARGED WITH MURDER, RAPE

ACCUSED EASEY STREET KILLER FACES COURT CHARGED WITH MURDER, RAPE

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

 

[jimmytigs]

im pretty sure that even if we still were a nation of backward scholars like iran saudi arabia china and texas & the death penalty still existed,as a 17yo when the crime was committed he would not be eligable to receive it at 65 or any other age

thank goodness we are australia and dont have to concern ourselves with that stuff like backward countries or backward states of countries

having said that i do wish the term of their natural life would be used and actually stuck to,can see it very possible that if found guilty he will be out in his early 70s & will probably live another 20 years

i doubt he is any kind of a serial killer though,im thinking the fact that bartlett knew him left him with no choice but to kill them after doing whatever it was he was doing there,either trying to rob them or get into armstrongs pants,the 55 stab wounds on bartlett compared to 27 on armstrong really indicates to me that he was extra eager to make sure she was dead

perhaps she harmed his chances of getting with armstrong & could identify him,there is the anger & need to make sure she didnt live

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

im pretty sure that even if we still were a nation of backward scholars like iran saudi arabia china and texas & the death penalty still existed,as a 17yo when the crime was committed he would not be eligable to receive it at 65 or any other age

thank goodness we are australia and dont have to concern ourselves with that stuff like backward countries or backward states of countries

having said that i do wish the term of their natural life would be used and actually stuck to,can see it very possible that if found guilty he will be out in his early 70s & will probably live another 20 years

i doubt he is any kind of a serial killer though,im thinking the fact that bartlett knew him left him with no choice but to kill them after doing whatever it was he was doing there,either trying to rob them or get into armstrongs pants,the 55 stab wounds on bartlett compared to 27 on armstrong really indicates to me that he was extra eager to make sure she was dead

perhaps she harmed his chances of getting with armstrong & could identify him,there is the anger & need to make sure she didnt live

It's the savagery that makes these murders so much worse, and psychotic. As with the Hill/Clay murders: utterly destroying the bodies afterwards was just beyond brutal.

 

[RichmondVFA]

I doubt these questions will ever be answered but I really want to know how the murderer came to be there in the first place.

Was it a random robbery gone wrong, had they been a guest there before, attempt at sexual assault?

 

[jimmytigs]

I doubt these questions will ever be answered but I really want to know how the murderer came to be there in the first place.

Was it a random robbery gone wrong, had they been a guest there before, attempt at sexual assault?

hard to imagine that he didnt know the teacher from his school lived there,so im thinking as it was back in the 70s he would have been there before & thought he had a shot at armstrong,he couldnt stand the rejection and as bartlett knew him he couldnt let her live

but as you said its likely we will never know for sure

 

[ms finch]

Just catching up on this. It's incredible. I agree that with the poster who said that an arrest like this in this case rivals the Claremont case for extraordinary.

I tend to believe that police dismissed PK as a suspect at the time in large part due to his age. Even now with all of our additional knowledge and understanding it's hard to fathom that a 17/18 year old could be responsible for such a brutal, sadistic and frenzied murder, although it would be more thoroughly checked. But back then this would have been unfathomable. Given he was provided an alibi, however dodgy, I think they just put this down as a dumb kid who'd unwittingly gotten himself into a mess.

Faced with this now, one of the theories I'd be looking at would be meth - the nature of it in the absence of another personal motive (although there may be one) and given his age would make me think it was a meth induced rage. Obviously meth wasn't available then, but could we be looking at something like an alcohol and drug induced attack? Say he was hanging out with them, based on the woman next door who said she saw them drinking with someone, made a pass and was rejected. So then he attacks and it spirals into something totally sadistic due whatever he's been partaking in.

 

[Kurve]

Just catching up on this. It's incredible. I agree that with the poster who said that an arrest like this in this case rivals the Claremont case for extraordinary.

I tend to believe that police dismissed PK as a suspect at the time in large part due to his age. Even now with all of our additional knowledge and understanding it's hard to fathom that a 17/18 year old could be responsible for such a brutal, sadistic and frenzied murder, although it would be more thoroughly checked. But back then this would have been unfathomable. Given he was provided an alibi, however dodgy, I think they just put this down as a dumb kid who'd unwittingly gotten himself into a mess.

Faced with this now, one of the theories I'd be looking at would be meth - the nature of it in the absence of another personal motive (although there may be one) and given his age would make me think it was a meth induced rage. Obviously meth wasn't available then, but could we be looking at something like an alcohol and drug induced attack? Say he was hanging out with them, based on the woman next door who said she saw them drinking with someone, made a pass and was rejected. So then he attacks and it spirals into something totally sadistic due whatever he's been partaking in.

Through the 70s, there was a lot of marijuana, cocaine which I assume was probably too expensive for many especially someone that age, heroin and LSD. Psychedelics mixed with alcohol might have factored in, he was tripping?

 

[ms finch]

Through the 70s, there was a lot of marijuana, cocaine which I assume was probably too expensive for many especially someone that age, heroin and LSD. Psychedelics mixed with alcohol might have factored in, he was tripping?

I wondered about psychedelics. There is so much we don't understand fully about them, and they have a broad spectrum of impacts from therapeutic to dangerous hallucinations. It wouldn't surprise me if that was in play here. It's the right era for them definitely, although I don't have a great deal of understanding about the breadth of demographics that commonly took them. I know, obviously, about "hippies" and sexual revolution, but I have no idea if it would be something an inner city antisocially behaving Greek kid would be likely to engage with. The two women, maybe, and he could have been offered it by them. (Not victim blaming here, of course. I have no issue with people partaking in recreational drugs.)

I know alcohol alone can lead to significant aggression and violence but this seems over the top for just that.

 

[ms finch]

The other theory I'd add, which comes from the totally opposite perspective, is the possibility that PK is responsible for the post death SA, but not the murders. I've seen this mentioned, but not really discussed.

He was responsible for burglaries so perhaps he went into this house with the intention of stealing. It was obviously a house that was easy to access at any time given the people who went in even after the women were killed. He comes across the bodies and does things to one of them. Obviously this would still make him sick and twisted, but it's different to having killed them. He finds the murder weapon and pockets it as a souvenir.

This also gives him reason enough to run when he's asked for his DNA, because he was still involved in something seriously abhorrent, and who is going to believe that he only SAed her after death?

Depending on what other evidence exists, this theory IMO presents a huge problem for any prosecution. He was young at the time, he doesn't as yet appear to have a criminal history that aligns with such a sadistic murder, and it's hard to fathom a motive. There is undeniably a problem with the ease of access to the house until the bodies were discovered. Certainly copping to the post mortem SA would reveal a truly disturbing character, but it's still better than copping to brutal double murder.

ETA: My theories come from the fact that I find it difficult to countenance that a 17 year old, and this particular 17 year old given what we know of him from the time and subsequently over his lifetime, simply committed these brutal murders. It's not impossible, of course. Thompson and Venables brutally tortured and killed James Bulger when they were ten, so it is absolutely within the public consciousness that young people can be brutal. However, even if it turns out that he did this and acted alone and unimpeded by substances, with all of our progress in understanding killers, this would still remain an outlier.

And aside from the obvious questions of what he was doing there in the first place and any motive, there are others. If he was there in a social capacity, how did two women in their twenties, one of whom was a teacher, not manage or diffuse an escalating situation with a 17 year old? Not victim blaming at all, just trying to get my head around how this would have played out. How did he overpower both of them and one not manage to escape? I can see that it's likely that SA was killed in her bedroom and probably SB went to investigate and then went for the door to escape, but there were other escape routes in the house. How did they end up isolated from each other, such that one was seemingly unaware that the other was in danger?

If it was a burglary that escalated, why on earth would it have turned into something so brutal, and the cold calculation of someone who felt confident enough to clean up a bit afterward rather than just running in terror?

So I also think it's possible that two or more people were involved, possibly older guys and, if PK was involved, he was encouraged to do the post mortem SA.

 

[sosos]

Meth was first synthesised in the late 19th century. Was used on soldiers in WWII and was popular with beat musicians in the 50s.

Could easily be a factor here.

 

[ms finch]

Meth was first synthesised in the late 19th century. Was used on soldiers in WWII and was popular with beat musicians in the 50s.

Could easily be a factor here.

It is my understanding that while amphetamines were around and used back then, this was in the form of speed, which is different to meth both in terms of the purity and also the molecular structure. Hence why there was a shift in the type and gravity of behaviours when speed shifted to meth.