Player Watch Esava Ratugolea
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Everyone who watches us knows it isn’t our working as a defensive unit that’s the main problem. It’s when we’re under pressure and defenders are forced to defend one on one that we leak like a sieve.
We are shithouse one on one and have been for as long as I can remember under Hinkley. Ratugolea will solve nothing in that regard. He doesn’t have that football nous either, that comes part naturally and partly from growing up as a kid playing the game.
We are shithouse one on one and have been for as long as I can remember under Hinkley. Ratugolea will solve nothing in that regard. He doesn’t have that football nous either, that comes part naturally and partly from growing up as a kid playing the game.
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This is the second year we have tried to cut a half decent deal with Geelong for a player that wants to come to us. We probably will have pick 40 by the time compo picks are accounted for. A fair trade would see us upgrade this a bit to #30-#35.
Offer that to Geelong. If they say no, get him to nominate our agreed wage and terms and use that pick on him. Geelong can redraft him with pick 8 if they want him. They don’t have another pick until the 60s.
This time, we hold the cards.
A lot of picks before ours.
They just front load the contract, he says he won't go anywhere else & it's done.
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If it were that easy everyone would do it. If he gets through to a draft I reckon Hawthorn take him.
It's been done before.
It rarely happens because clubs don't actually want to fracture trade relationships.
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Didn’t seem to hurt the Crows when they did it.
Getting a bit tired of us always the “reasonable club”
What advantages do we really get?
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Would like to see what happens if an out of contract superstar requested a trade to the bottom team, lets say Zak Butters requested a trade to bottom-placed North next year.
Would the club even try trading as his value would be at least 2 firsts, but they could get him for free with no risk of any other clubs picking him up.
I would absolutely be trying to screw over Geelong and that work experience kid, Mackie.
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The JHF trade last year was a perfect example of the benefits of being known as a reasonable club. An extremely complicated trade that benefited all clubs made it over the line. A couple of the clubs even threw extra our way to make sure it happened.
In general, players know they can confidently nominate us as a destination knowing they will get here.
Clubs will deal with us and deals get done. It's not about whether nuffie supporters think we've won or lost trades or early trade period posturing. We've done well in our trading over the years.
So if they don’t accept a 35 ish pick?
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That's what negotiation is about. There's 10 days to work out a trade. It's not all going to happen in 5 minutes.
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Lol at posters wanting the club to act more like Mackie. He's new to this game and doesn't realize that trying to win every negotiation comes with a cost. It's a short sighted strategy, and doesn't bode well in the medium to long term.
If you are going the Mackie route of trying to bend another party over during a negotiation, you want to be damn sure that you aren't dealing with that party again in the future, or anyone that talks with said party. Anyone that has experience with negotiations knows what I'm talking about.
If you are going the Mackie route of trying to bend another party over during a negotiation, you want to be damn sure that you aren't dealing with that party again in the future, or anyone that talks with said party. Anyone that has experience with negotiations knows what I'm talking about.
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He only had to bend as far as the txt messaging app on his phone to get Ken traded here from the Gold Coast so maybe he sees us as the weaker party at trading.
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So what was the attempted Rat trade last year evidence of?
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He was contracted and planning/aiming for this year; same for saldo next year.
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Not every trade works, not every person is going to come to the party.
Being a reasonable club doesn't give you Jedi mind powers. If one club has a fixed view on the worth of a player and you can't meet it, they're not just going to roll over and say All good mate, you can have him for much less than we think he's worth.
We will get the trade done. There will be Port supporters who will complain we paid too much and Geelong supporters complain we paid too little.
[Daniel Gorringe stares at you through the window from the pouring rain]
Other trades took precedent where our list mangers are trade titans.
Where our offer was take it or leave with no other trade chips on the table.
