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And who determines what the truth is? The Synod of Hippo?
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And who determines what the truth is? The Synod of Hippo?
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The dictionary.
Red Black and Blue
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People determine what goes into the dictionary, words and meanings don't magically appear there.
DNA is inanimate. No sleep.
Does anyone know what the quack chiro Hooper testified to ASADA? Imagine if he told ASADA exactly what he injected into the players. That would spell trouble for EFC wouldn't it?
What about the nurse? She did some injecting herself at the off-site clinic. Anyone know what she testified?
On the balance of probability, the evidence out in the public domain really paints a bleak picture for EFC. The testimonies of these people may in fact bury the club. In addition to ASADA uncovering further information such as money trails and supply chains. Hard to hide those kinds of things. You can't just delete bank transfers and payment transactions.
Does it really matter what Dank is saying (or not saying) at this point in time. ASADA didn't even think it worth talking to that mad prick and I can only assume they didn't do so as they had enough from other sources.
What about the nurse? She did some injecting herself at the off-site clinic. Anyone know what she testified?
On the balance of probability, the evidence out in the public domain really paints a bleak picture for EFC. The testimonies of these people may in fact bury the club. In addition to ASADA uncovering further information such as money trails and supply chains. Hard to hide those kinds of things. You can't just delete bank transfers and payment transactions.
Does it really matter what Dank is saying (or not saying) at this point in time. ASADA didn't even think it worth talking to that mad prick and I can only assume they didn't do so as they had enough from other sources.
blackshadow
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Comedy!
I notice the writer is too gutless to actually put their name to it.
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No. He's admitted to giving them something. He just hasn't said exactly what drug or combination of drugs were administered. The point I am making is that you cannot assume it was only one of the several possibilities. It could have been several.
Makes it difficult to play the man when you don't know who the man is.
Rebut the article all you like
blackshadow
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EFC doesn't make the rules about what's permitted or prohibited, if you have a beef with what ASADA said was fine to use take it up with them.
I can see why Caro is so popular in these parts
go_nodders
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Why would an expert need to clarify something 24 hours later? Surely when he was quizzed about it, he would have clarified his comments there and then.
If he did get it wrong, you have to ask yourself what type of moron they employed to run a highly sophisticated supplement program that was running extremely close to the line.
If you do believe he made a mistake, surely you must be thinking what other mistakes he has made and what are going to be the consequences of those mistakes??
That's a very good point. I too am wondering why Dr Harcourt stated that the AFL forcibly retired several illicit drug users in November and now in July his masters have had to come out and 'clarify' his comments.
I am also wondering why Australia's experts in prohibited substances stated to several parties that AOD was not prohibited and then had to come out and 'clarify' its comments months later?
Insult definitely has promise; bonus points for the correct spelling and punctuation (those apostrophes can be a little tricky).
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Or as Caro said, deny, deny, deny...supress,suppress,suppress.
Is that you Albert?
What have you got against oxidants?
The fact that ASADA collected 98,000 texts and 449 GB of emails suggests they have more than enough evidence. They are just tying up loose ends.
The volume of seized information does not equate to the relevance of the information. You do understand this, don't you?
That's like saying we know the murderer had a telephone, I have a copy of the White Pages. Gee, I'm close to apprehending the murderer.
The loose ends ASADA seek are a twice previously published in the public domain article, that by inference of dosage and outcome, cannot possibly be related to TB-4. Cutting edge investigation technique, not having accessed this gem of guilt earlier. Better late than never.
Their biggest slam-dunk was the mysterious, mystical and totally banned AOD 9604, confessed as being used on national TV by the EFC Captain. Nada from ASADA or WADA?
I don't feel EFC are "ducking" all that much anymore. Telling the AFL, and the other clubs that we played it your way, and got royally screwed over for it - so we will now do it the way we wanted to originally, makes it seem that ASADA, and the late AFL hierarchy, are doing all the "ducking".
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and you keep telling yourself that...
what it tells me is that they have quantity, whether the quality is there is another thing but i would like to think that the reason they gained that quantity is because they could see some quality within it...otherwise why would they bother? shits & giggles...pffffftttt!
at least you are aware that 'at least' one illegal substance (AOD 9604) was used at the club...you may want to explain this to some of your fellow supporters...they may finally grow an understanding that what went on at the club a couple of years ago wasnt cool, by anyones standards!
Better Loosen Up
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Not at all surprising that no Essendon supporters have chosen to reply to this post......
Don't know if this has been addressed and apologies if it has - I am slowly wading through the amusing posts from the Essendon fans trying to defend the indefensible. However I felt that your post, kfc1, needed to be put into perspective.
You neglect to mention that the 'former telco head' has a PhD (much like your learned self, I understand) in a field as prestigious as nuclear physics from Melbourne University. And if his Wikipedia page is to be believed he also spent six years in post doctoral research, presumably in this field. Add to that his experience with corporate governance as CEO of both Optus and Telstra, and you have a pretty impressive resume that would suggest serious academic rigour in the investigation.
Belittling his opinion because he you feel he doesn't completely understand the sports science and rejecting the conclusions of his report would seem unwise unless you have seen all the evidence he has been privy to.
As a matter of interest, is his report available for public viewing? Where can I obtain it?
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Was on the AFL web site from memory.
Are you serious? Very ordinary analogy. That's a shocker. Essendon arguments get more desperate very day as the inevitable D-Day and infractions draws closer. Obviously panic!
I'm sure amongst all that they have alot of evidence otherwise they would not be handing out SC notices. They got in a retired judge and have had the man who brought down Lance Armstrong, Richard Young, work through it so you can be sure that they are sure The odds of having something damning amongst that body of evidence would be huge. Think even you would know that deep down.
At some point you have to accept reality. Living in hope won't help you.
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How does it suggest that?
