Universal Love Essendon Team of the 21st Century

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VelvetSledge said:
B: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
HB: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
C: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
HF: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
F: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
R: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton

INT: Stanton - Stanton - Stanton - Stanton
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I feel bad for the 1 Stanton that cops the tag.
 

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Bunk Moreland said:
B Fletcher - Hurley - M Johnson
HB Hardwick - Hooker - Wellman
C Stanton - Watson - Goddard
HF Mercuri - Lucas - Hird
F Caracella - Lloyd - Ryder
R Hille - J Johnson - Heppell
I Misiti - Zaharakis - McPhee - McVeigh
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I agree with this team Buck except I would have long for goddard,zaka for o`donnel and swap joey misiti for hepp.The reason being is he was a 2 double prem player.By the way I am a long time reader of ess big footy forum first time typer.So hey dudes and dudettes:>
 
menzel case said:
Hi all, as part of a promotion of our game to the community, i am involved in a 21st century afl publicisation. for every team, we are preparing what we believe is the best 22 since 2000 inclusive. all players must have played minimum 50 games in this time period to be considered. I have chosen players purely on position so thats why someone like monfries gets a spot. would appreciate your thoughts on your team:

FB M.JOHNSON D.FLETCHER D.HARDWICK

HB M.MCVEIGH M.HURLEY* A.MCPHEE

C D.HEPPELL* J.WATSON* (vc) B.STANTON*

HF M.MERCURI S. LUCAS D.ZAHARAKIS*

FF B.CARACELLA M.LLOYD A.MONFRIES

RR P.RYDER J.HIRD (c) J.JOHNSON

INT D.HILLE J.MISITI B.GODDARD* D.PEVERILL

COACH: KEVIN SHEEDY
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Is this the thread to talk about Essendon's team of the century? What does it look like now that we're starting to compare our current list to how good it was at the turn of the century :D

These days...

FB M.Johnson Fletcher Hooker
HB Goddard Hurley Heppell
C Misiti Watson (C) Merrett
HF Caracella Daniher Lucas
FF Mercuri LLoyd Fantasia
RR Ryder Hird (VC) J.Johnson
INT McVeigh Stanton Zaharakis AMT
COACH: Sheedy

Looking way better I reckon. Only a few more star playerssss and it'll be ripper!

Unlucky: Rioli? Wellman? I would have liked to squeeze Kelly in there, but I like the 50 game cut off and he only played 40 games. Hardwick played 45 arrgghhh

Lucky: Stanton made the team lol
 
blacksockred said:
Is this the thread to talk about Essendon's team of the century? What does it look like now that we're starting to compare our current list to how good it was at the turn of the century :D

These days...

FB M.Johnson Fletcher Hooker
HB Goddard Hurley Heppell
C Misiti Watson (C) Merrett
HF Caracella Daniher Lucas
FF Mercuri LLoyd Fantasia
RR Ryder Hird (VC) J.Johnson
INT McVeigh Stanton Zaharakis AMT
COACH: Sheedy

Looking way better I reckon. Only a few more star playerssss and it'll be ripper!

Unlucky: Rioli? Wellman? I would have liked to squeeze Kelly in there, but I like the 50 game cut off and he only played 40 games. Hardwick played 45 arrgghhh

Lucky: Stanton made the team lol
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You should be finding a spot for Wellman in there without a doubt. Replace Heppell with Wellman. Heppell to a wing and Misiti to the bench which is rough but the 5 onballers ahead of him were all better. McVeigh has to go imo.
 
un_eggs said:
You should be finding a spot for Wellman in there without a doubt. Replace Heppell with Wellman. Heppell to a wing and Misiti to the bench which is rough but the 5 onballers ahead of him were all better. McVeigh has to go imo.
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You’d have Johnson ahead of Misiti? I’d honestly say that Misiti is second to only Watson as the best pure mid (not someone that reliably plays forward or back) that I’ve seen in my time watching Essendon
 
Halftimehero said:
If Hawthorn can win a premiership with Lake, Frawley, Gibson and Stratton in the one side then you could play Fletcher, Wellman, Hooker and Hurley in the same defence. Yes, they are collectively taller but Fletcher and Hurley can play on smalls, mediums and talls quite easily.
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Gibson was 189cm 3rd tall and Stratton can play on smalls
Wellman, Hooker, Hurley and Fletcher are all genuine KPDs so I agree and would only carry 3 max in the one side.
 
How about the calendar? Fascinating stuff.
 
Orazio2Joe said:
You’d have Johnson ahead of Misiti? I’d honestly say that Misiti is second to only Watson as the best pure mid (not someone that reliably plays forward or back) that I’ve seen in my time watching Essendon
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Misiti was great and probably shades JJ over his career but JJ post 2000 was immense. 2000-2006 he was our midfield spark and won 2 BnFs. Who can forget him bursting out of centre clearances and bombing goals on the run from outside 50? He was the inside/outside mid we’d love today.

As far as where I rate them in the best Essendon players I’ve seen - I have them both as emergencies in my best team since 1980. So they’re close.
 
un_eggs said:
You should be finding a spot for Wellman in there without a doubt. Replace Heppell with Wellman. Heppell to a wing and Misiti to the bench which is rough but the 5 onballers ahead of him were all better. McVeigh has to go imo.
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Yeah I would much rather have Wellman in the side than McVeigh. I’m sure Wellman was the better footballer, although McVeigh had one brilliant year there. I still think the backline could be too tall though.... BJ at half back is already pushing it with Fletch, Hurley and Hooker down there.

We could go with Fletch and Wellman, then one of Hurley/Hooker is the third KPD while the other is on the bench as a swingman utility. McVeigh loses his spot. Still a bit too tall though? Missing dash of half back ala McKenna and Saad!
 
blacksockred said:
Yeah I would much rather have Wellman in the side than McVeigh. I’m sure Wellman was the better footballer, although McVeigh had one brilliant year there. I still think the backline could be too tall though.... BJ at half back is already pushing it with Fletch, Hurley and Hooker down there.

We could go with Fletch and Wellman, then one of Hurley/Hooker is the third KPD while the other is on the bench as a swingman utility. McVeigh loses his spot. Still a bit too tall though? Missing dash of half back ala McKenna and Saad!
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Fletch Hurls and Wellman all make my best 22 seen. Wanganeen Thompson and Harvey are the other defenders. So that would leave Hooker out if you’re looking for better balance.
 
It would be easier to leave Hooker out if there is more selection pressure from small/medium defenders like those champs in the 90s. Maybe Hardwick deserves a spot just due to the importance of his impact in 2000-01, albeit short-lived.

How far off are McKenna and Saad from being as good as Hardwick this century? Surely they already eclipse guys like Dempsey and Welsh, and not far off McVeigh.
 

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My two bob's worth -

13 players just about pick themselves

*** Fletcher Mark Johnson
*** Hooker Wellman
*** Watson Merrett
*** Lucas Hird
*** Lloyd ***
Hille JJ Heppell
Interchange (or anywhere) Zaka *** *** ***

After that, remaining 9 spots in any positions you like, but less certainly deserving of a spot -
Hurley
Hibbo (why is no-one including him?)
Stanton
Goddard
McVeigh
Misiti
Daniher
Fanta
Tippa

I would leave out
Mercuri - after 2000 he was just a shadow of what he had been
Rama - just starting to get established when he got sick. Just a player thereafter
McPhee - just no
Hardwick - not enough games
Caracella - not enough games and even then only modestly good post 2000
Ryder - not sure he ever played enough good games as a ruckman, and I just find it goes against my grain to include him in any Essendon "best of" side on principle (I know).
Edit: on reflection, should have included Winderlich, so leave out Tippa.
 
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I predict (well, hope) these teams will look quite different within a year or so. List is looking as good as it has done in a long time, and a few of our young players will be hitting out beyond 50 games pretty soon....as will Stringer, Saad, Smith and that Sheild fellow
 
60sbomber said:
My two bob's worth -

13 players just about pick themselves

*** Fletcher Mark Johnson
*** Hooker Wellman
*** Watson Merrett
*** Lucas Hird
*** Lloyd ***
Hille JJ Heppell
Interchange (or anywhere) Zaka *** *** ***

After that, remaining 9 spots in any positions you like, but less certainly deserving of a spot -
Hurley
Hibbo (why is no-one including him?)
Stanton
Goddard
McVeigh
Misiti
Daniher
Fanta
Tippa

I would leave out
Mercuri - after 2000 he was just a shadow of what he had been
Rama - just starting to get established when he got sick. Just a player thereafter
McPhee - just no
Hardwick - not enough games
Caracella - not enough games and even then only modestly good post 2000
Ryder - not sure he ever played enough good games as a ruckman, and I just find it goes against my grain to include him in any Essendon "best of" side on principle (I know).
Edit: on reflection, should have included Winderlich, so leave out Tippa.
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I’m blown away about Mercs! I knew he dropped off but still. Was Hille’s best better than Ryder’s best? I thought Hibbo wasn’t good enough for long enough but fair call, I probably didn’t consider him enough. I think Tippa has already surpassed Winderlich.

I was relooking at our 2009 list and oh man it was embarrassing! It’s no wonder the 21st century team is pretty much just bookended by early 2000s players and currrent players. Within 2 years there will be no room for left for the McVeighs, Hibberds, Stantons...
 
B. Hurley Fletcher M johnson
HB. Solomon Carlisle Wellman
C. Stanton Watson(vc) Heppel
HF. Hird (c) Daniher Mercuri
FF. Fantasia Lloyd Caracella

RR. Ryder J Johnson J Misiti
Inter. Hooker Winderlich Lucas Goddard
 
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FB: D.FLETCHER - C.HOOKER* - M.JOHNSON
HB: A.MCPHEE - M.HURLEY* - B.GODDARD
C: D.HEPPELL* - J.WATSON (vc) - B.STANTON
HF: M.MERCURI - S. LUCAS - A.MCDONALD-TIPUNGWUTI*
FF: B.CARACELLA - M.LLOYD - J.DANIHER*
RR: P.RYDER - J.HIRD (c) - J.JOHNSON
INT: Z.MERRETT* - D.ZAHARAKIS* - J.MISITI - D.PEVERILL
COACH: KEVIN SHEEDY

Minimum 50 games.

Thoughts?
 
B Fletcher Hurley M.Johnson
HB McPhee Hooker Goddard
C Stanton Watson Mcveigh
HF Hird Lucas Mecuri
F Tipungwuti Lloyd Caracella
Foll: Ryder Heppell J.Johnson
Inter: Daniher, Stringer, Long, Z.Merrett
Coach: Sheedy
 
Updated for end of 2020. In: Saad. Out: Peverill


[TD valign="top"]FB[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]D.FLETCHER[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]C.HOOKER*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]M.JOHNSON[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HB[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]A.MCPHEE[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]M.HURLEY*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]B.GODDARD[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]C[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]D.HEPPELL*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]J.WATSON (vc)[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]B.STANTON[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]HF[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]A.MCDONALD-TIPUNGWUTI*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]S. LUCAS[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]M.MERCURI[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]FF[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]B.CARACELLA[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]M.LLOYD[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]J.DANIHER*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]RR[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]P.RYDER[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]J.HIRD (c)[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]J.JOHNSON[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]INT[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]Z.MERRETT*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]D.ZAHARAKIS*[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]J.MISITI A.SAAD*[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]COACH:

[/TD]
[TD valign="top"]KEVIN SHEEDY
[/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
 
B: D Fletcher C Hooker S Wellman
HB: B Goddard M Hurley M Johnson
C: D Heppell J Watson Z Merrett
HF: J Stringer S Lucas M Mercuri
F: J Daniher M Lloyd B Caracella
R: P Ryder J Hird J Johnson
INT: D Shiel, A Saad, J Misiti, J Winderlich

EMG: J Blumfield, B Stanton, A Tipungwuti
 
Fletcher - Hooker - Hibberd
M Johnson - Hurley - Saad
Mercuri - Watson - Merrett
Winderlich - Lucas - Hird
Daniher - Lloyd - McDonald-Tipungwuti
Ryder - J Johnson - Heppell
Shiel - Wellman - Goddard - Stanton
 

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