F1 2022

[Achy Blakey Heart]

You can say Piastri is an inexperienced rookie and Webber is an incompetent manager - but surely both would not simultaneously release that kind of statement without a guarantee of a seat somewhere. It makes no sense if they don't have a guaranteed seat as they have no leverage otherwise - Piastri is a hot commodity but he's still a newbie with no F1 races under his belt.

Imagine if Christian Horner and Helmut Marko sent out a cryptic tweet right about now - are we sure it must be with McLaren if Piastri is refusing to drive for Alpine next year?

What previous management form does Webber have to suggest he is incompetent?

 

[happy_eagle]

What previous management form does Webber have to suggest he is incompetent?

Does he have any management form at all ?

 

[Forward Press]

What previous management form does Webber have to suggest he is incompetent?

He has none, that's the point - even the most incompetent manager or agent knows the value of leverage and not burning bridges until you have one lined up in front of you.

 

[BIRDBRAIN]

No. I personally like the Piastri to RB and driving for Alpha Tauri until Checo's contract is up rumour.

This would be huge for both RB and Oscar. They would probably let Alpine poach Gasly in that case.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Wow
What a bombshell

 

[gaskin]

This would be huge for both RB and Oscar. They would probably let Alpine poach Gasly in that case.

The problem with that is even though Alpine would then have 2 French drivers, Gasly and Ocon supposedly do not get on at all.

 

[Forward Press]

This would be huge for both RB and Oscar. They would probably let Alpine poach Gasly in that case.

What helps a possible Oscar to AT/RB move is the apparent lack of talent in the Red Bull Academy at the moment.

Would be a massive coup for Oscar and Webber if so - but still think it's McLaren with the seat and some kind of secret exit agreement worked out between McLaren, Oscar and Ricciardo that was being finalised before Alonso decided the day after Oscar's agreement expired to move elsewhere.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

He is indeed a super talent - but plenty of talent in lower formulas never made the step up. Personally I think Webber and Ricciardo could only ever win the drivers championship with a lot of luck in the right car and they were never in the mix with the generational talent (Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen etc).

Let's hope Oscar isn't one of them - or at least has a lot more luck going his way.

In the right care I always thought Ricciardo could win, I rate him a lot higher than I ever did Webber. I thought Webber was very robotic and lacked imagination / dare.

 

[99 Problems]

What helps a possible Oscar to AT/RB move is the apparent lack of talent in the Red Bull Academy at the moment.

Would be a massive coup for Oscar and Webber if so - but still think it's McLaren with the seat and some kind of secret exit agreement worked out between McLaren, Oscar and Ricciardo that was being finalised before Alonso decided the day after Oscar's agreement expired to move elsewhere.

McLaren is definitely a big possibility given the rumours, but it pretty much requires Ricciardo to have another seat lined up already.

Realistically who could that be? Maybe Haas or Williams? Are there any other possibilities?

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Man I hope he’s going to a good car and not the Mclaren. Oscar is a gun and I’d hate to see him waste his career driving a shopping trolley.

 

[happy_eagle]

Whilst we are throwing possibilities out there

Do you reckon there is any appetite for Red Bull to bring Daniel back into the fold , likely at Alpha Tauri. Or do you reckon he burnt too many bridges upon his exit there (he and Max still get along very well, and I don't think Max would be threatened by him as a team mate these days. Max is on a whole other level).

In terms of musical chairs it would be
Gasly to Alpine
Piastri to McLaren
Ricciardo to Alpha Tauri
(on standby depending on what RBR do with Perez)

 

[Forward Press]

McLaren is definitely a big possibility given the rumours, but it pretty much requires Ricciardo to have another seat lined up already.

Realistically who could that be? Maybe Haas or Williams? Are there any other possibilities?

McLaren - obvious- they have money, and lots of it
RB/AT - longer shot, PER is committed for 2023 I believe but as we all know AT can be pliable - GAS and TSU may be elsewhere (Alpine for the former, out of F1 for the latter)
Haas - no money, quite a sideways move
Williams - no money and also not expected to contend any time soon
Alfa - they will persist with Zhou and Bottas for at least next year surely
Aston Martin - kek
Alpine - if all else fails...
Mercedes/Ferrari - no chance

 

[happy_eagle]

McLaren - obvious- they have money, and lots of it
RB/AT - longer shot, PER is committed for 2023 I believe but as we all know AT can be pliable - GAS and TSU may be elsewhere (Alpine for the former, out of F1 for the latter)
Haas - no money, quite a sideways move
Williams - no money and also not expected to contend any time soon
Alfa - they will persist with Zhou and Bottas for at least next year surely
Aston Martin - kek
Alpine - if all else fails...
Mercedes/Ferrari - no chance

Has Hamilton committed beyond this year to F1 ?

He feels like the kind of driver that could pull the pin at any moment

 

[gaskin]

Whilst we are throwing possibilities out there

Do you reckon there is any appetite for Red Bull to bring Daniel back into the fold , likely at Alpha Tauri. Or do you reckon he burnt too many bridges upon his exit there (he and Max still get along very well, and I don't think Max would be threatened by him as a team mate these days. Max is on a whole other level).

Probably not. He could be a good mentor for Yuki but I don't think he would go back unless it was in the actual RB seat.

 

[Forward Press]

Has Hamilton committed beyond this year to F1 ?

He feels like the kind of driver that could pull the pin at any moment

Even if he did - would Piastri have a chance?

 

[OldBlueFan]

Has Hamilton committed beyond this year to F1 ?

He feels like the kind of driver that could pull the pin at any moment

Hamilton is desperate to break Schumi's record. I reckon he'll go 'round at least one more year. If Merc were to fall off a cliff for some reason next season, or at least show that they're not getting close to the top again, then he might call it.

 

[doggies ftw]

If everyone can just swallow their pride Ric to Alpine actually makes a lot of sense, I hope it happens

 

[99 Problems]

McLaren - obvious- they have money, and lots of it
RB/AT - longer shot, PER is committed for 2023 I believe but as we all know AT can be pliable - GAS and TSU may be elsewhere (Alpine for the former, out of F1 for the latter)
Haas - no money, quite a sideways move
Williams - no money and also not expected to contend any time soon
Alfa - they will persist with Zhou and Bottas for at least next year surely
Aston Martin - kek
Alpine - if all else fails...
Mercedes/Ferrari - no chance

The only way I could imagine McLaren paying so much money for Ricciardo to not drive would be if he was struggling in a car competing for wins. I just can’t see them doing it to put in a rookie kid who will still be finishing 6th-14th.

Ric clearly hasn’t signed for Alpine because they didn’t know anything was happening. Ferrari/Mercedes isn’t happening. Aston Martin have finalised their line up. Very unlikely Alfa will change theirs.

He could fill the Perez role at Red Bull, but why would they do that when they can just keep Perez?

That leaves AT/Haas/Williams. If it’s not one of them, I’d be thinking Piastri is going somewhere other than McLaren.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Hamilton is desperate to break Schumi's record. I reckon he'll go 'round at least one more year. If Merc were to fall off a cliff for some reason next season, or at least show that they're not getting close to the top again, then he might call it.

I think he's contracted for next year.
It'll be his last surely.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

If everyone can just swallow their pride Ric to Alpine actually makes a lot of sense, I hope it happens

To be fair, Piastri to drive for Alpine actually makes the most sense.

So I think this has already breezed past everyone swallowing their pride. We're up to slinging mud status I think.

 

[Forward Press]

The only way I could imagine McLaren paying so much money for Ricciardo to not drive would be if he was struggling in a car competing for wins. I just can’t see them doing it to put in a rookie kid who will still be finishing 6th-14th.

Ric clearly hasn’t signed for Alpine because they didn’t know anything was happening. Ferrari/Mercedes isn’t happening. Aston Martin have finalised their line up. Very unlikely Alfa will change theirs.

He could fill the Perez role at Red Bull, but why would they do that when they can just keep Perez?

That leaves AT/Haas/Williams. If it’s not one of them, I’d be thinking Piastri is going somewhere other than McLaren.

Not really arguing against your post, just your username had me rapping in my head as if I was Oscar 'JayZ' Piastri...

"If you're having driver problems I feel bad for you son
Got 99 problems but a seat ain't one"

 

[royboy2]

 

[happy_eagle]

If everyone can just swallow their pride Ric to Alpine actually makes a lot of sense, I hope it happens

Turns out most of the key people that Daniel would have pissed off by leaving Renault are no longer there. So not as much bad blood to navigate.

 

[Bradesmaen]

The problem with that is even though Alpine would then have 2 French drivers, Gasly and Ocon supposedly do not get on at all.

They could push for Pourchaire.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

If everyone can just swallow their pride Ric to Alpine actually makes a lot of sense, I hope it happens

Cyril would rage.