Coach Fages and the coaching group

[irel]

And achieved what exactly?

More than the previous fifteen years.
I gather you'd rather us go back to being average so your negativity can have some validity.

 

[WhiteLionfever]

Fages is more of an welfare coach ala hawks.

He is a good man but that is the trouble. He is a good man who couldnt drop his faves. Ala gunston last year.

He looks perplexed in the coaches box at times i hate to say. He never has a go at the blatant robbery that we get.nit against geelong a few yrs ago against biclavs that cost us.

Imagine that had been the other way around in the gf when cwd got 'advantage' called with 60s to go.not a peep.

He is NOT a tactician and nothing changes.

Imo bring in a sydney or geelong assistant to teach sydney or geelong patterns of play and employ a tactician.

Fagan is a director of welfare - supervisor imo.

What i wdnt giv for chris scott

Chris Scott

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48

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182cm

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89kg

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16.6

4star

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11.2

4star

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5.4

4star

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5.1

5star

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1.6

4star

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0.4

3star

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13.2

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10.2

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3.0

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2.2

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2.8

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0.4

3star

to come back home to giv us a hard edge

 

[Ceebee]

We could have kept Vossy but instead we hired that old goon.

Disgusting thing to say .

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

Disgusting thing to say .

Wow, Vossy is a legend of the club mate you need to calm down.

 

[BrownYouGun]

Bar some overly emotional comments, I don’t think any of the people who want us to move on from Fagan (myself included) are opposed to the job he’s done taking us from a basket case to a place where players want to be.

BUT, we recognise that now that we have established the talent and a positive atmosphere and Fagan has had a shot at doing what he can - it’s time to transform to the next level by bringing in a new face who will focus on the tactics and reward performance to get us to the flag.

It’s no surprise that some of our fringe players look to struggle when we’ve stuck with winning games off the back of our top 20 talents each week. Not exposing these guys more, or having a clearly defined game plan, means that when they come in we lack cohesion. That’s what we need to build and have needed to build for a couple of years

 

[davemc_lions]

Tactically I said for ages we need a better assistant
Although we have some game killer players who fumble marks/ball and miss tackles although never dropped for it.

 

[Mr Ripper]

It isn't Fages dropping marks, duffing kicks and missing tackles, which is ultimately what is costing us games. You could certainly question whether we do enough to remedy our deficiencies in said areas, though.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Some serious spoiled brat attitude

He was a part of taking us from wooden spoon basket case to a kick away from premiers. You don’t do that with a lousy coaching panel

Whilst that is true, he isnt the man to bring us the flag. Fremantle were in a sinilar situation to Ross Lyon. Ross is good at building a team up but cant elevate them. Fagan is the same. If freo had the balls to get rid of Ross in their prime they would have won a flag. If we had the balls to get rid of Fagan we would win the flag.

Bookmark this post. I been saying the same thing for the last 3 years to people before I came back here. We will not win a flag under Fagan and in 3 years will regret not replacing him when we were in our window.

Very similar.

We would have a flag under Clarkson, under Hardwick, under Horse. Under Scott. The list is too talented. Fagan has done all he can. Time to go.

 

[SpecialBruce]

It isn't Fages dropping marks, duffing kicks and missing tackles which is ultimately what is costing us games. You could certainly question whether we do enough to remedy our deficiencies in said areas though.

It is Fages that keeps making the wrong people scapegoats because he doesn't want to hurt feelings and ruin his grandfather rep

 

[CarterS]

Lose next week vs Kangas and media will start talking

 

[Surly Boy]

club isnt going to sack the coach within 12 months of making a grand final

Mebbe... depends how bad this gets....

 

[Grasshopper17]

Yep. Its a shame the racism saga didn't kick Fagan out of the AFL

This is a genuinely abhorrent comment.

 

[Nunez]

This is a genuinely abhorrent comment.

Plenty of those around tonight. God help dlanod

 

[Balony_pony16]

Fagan will give us contested possession stats… all good

 

[Paul Mac]

Yep. Its a shame the racism saga didn't kick Fagan out of the AFL

What sort of a comment is this?

 

[kylegee28]

You've gotta make sure that you sack your coach whenever the slightest amount of pressure builds. That's what successful clubs do

 

[Ceebee]

Wow, Vossy is a legend of the club mate you need to calm down.

Leppitsch replaced Vossy after he was sacked . Get your facts right .

 

[SpecialBruce]

What sort of a comment is this?

Based on confidential information I have, Fagan and Clarkson should have been reprimanded heavily and it's a shame the full story will never come out.

 

[brisbanelions]

I would class Hipwood a lead up forward , Daisy cutters on a lead ,yet we will still send in bombs, totally illogical. We have not learnt from the past, which in my opinion is simply dumb football. The line coaches must be held to account and take some of the blame for dumb football. If fagan leaves, the line coaches must also need to be changed as in my opinion they are just as much of the problem as that of Fagan and of certain players.

Watching all the games this season, there is a total lack of thinking outside the square, no imagination, no out there moves to spark a resurgence nothing other than, to suggest to me we are facing a combination fried rice scenario. Total lack of tactical nous and players unwilling to bleed for the jumper except for a very few. The lions have seemingly lost their way. Heart breaking.

I would be personally calling on ,a total review of not only the football dept. but also the playing list, as it is not as good as people think. A TOTAL RETHINK REQUIRED ASAP.

 

[mpal6]

You guys need a new vision. You should consider Andrew Dunkley for the role

Hahaha, man its been a year and a bit now.. you are still hung up on Dunkley. Hope you're ok.

 

[lionsrules]

If the club pulls that trigger. When is the best time he goes ? How does it need to be planned ? Does the club start chatting to interested parties now ?
Also …. How about another 2-3 assistants …. If they can’t afford them now how can they when there’s a payout looming for Fagan.

I think we are in no mans land.

 

[McIvor]

I would class Hipwood a lead up forward , Daisy cutters on a lead ,yet we will still send in bombs, totally illogical. We have not learnt from the past, which in my opinion is simply dumb football. The line coaches must be held to account and take some of the blame for dumb football. If fagan leaves, the line coaches must also need to be changed as in my opinion they are just as much of the problem as that of Fagan and of certain players.

Watching all the games this season, there is a total lack of thinking outside the square, no imagination, no out there moves to spark a resurgence nothing other than, to suggest to me we are facing a combination fried rice scenario. Total lack of tactical nous and players unwilling to bleed for the jumper except for a very few. The lions have seemingly lost their way. Heart breaking.

I would be personally calling on ,a total review of not only the football dept. but also the playing list, as it is not as good as people think. A TOTAL RETHINK REQUIRED ASAP.

But apparently the line coaches have won awards from other assistants and coaches so why would we dare do that

 

[McIvor]

If the club pulls that trigger. When is the best time he goes ? How does it need to be planned ? Does the club start chatting to interested parties now ?
Also …. How about another 2-3 assistants …. If they can’t afford them now how can they when there’s a payout looming for Fagan.

I think we are in no mans land.

I fail to understand why clubs extend coaches when no one is coming after them and then leave themselves open to not being able to move them on because of the financial system in play. It’s just plain incompetence and why Fagan was given a two year extension is just staggering because unless Fagan voluntarily resigns which he won’t, we’re stuck with him until end of next year and no doubt the same applies to his award winning assistants.

 

[dlanod]

I fail to understand why clubs extend coaches when no one is coming after them and then leave themselves open to not being able to move them on because of the financial system in play. It’s just plain incompetence and why Fagan was given a two year extension is just staggering because unless Fagan voluntarily resigns which he won’t, we’re stuck with him until end of next year and no doubt the same applies to his award winning assistants.

The AFL inserts clauses into the standard coach contracts for a maximum six month payout for clubs that receive AFL assistance, including us. You can stop worrying.

 

[Nathan Barley]

But apparently the line coaches have won awards from other assistants and coaches so why would we dare do that

If it was up to internet numpties 90% of assistant coaches wouldn't last a season