Fall and Fall of Big Bash

[Cleavy]

Cricket Australia rejects the Stars' last-second attempt to add international star to squad

“They say it would open Pandora's Box and speak to the integrity of the competition.”

sen.com.au

things continue to get worse for the Stars

 

[western royboy]

Cricket Australia rejects the Stars' last-second attempt to add international star to squad

“They say it would open Pandora's Box and speak to the integrity of the competition.”

sen.com.au

things continue to get worse for the Stars

“Integrity of the Competition” are these campaigners on drugs?

 

[eddiesmith]

Cricket Australia rejects the Stars' last-second attempt to add international star to squad

“They say it would open Pandora's Box and speak to the integrity of the competition.”

sen.com.au

things continue to get worse for the Stars

So you’re limited to players on your list, so can’t replace internationals with internationals? What a dumb organisation. Besides, haven’t they always had injury replacements hence why we end up with players for 2-3 game stints?

 

[eth-dog]

So you’re limited to players on your list, so can’t replace internationals with internationals? What a dumb organisation. Besides, haven’t they always had injury replacements hence why we end up with players for 2-3 game stints?

I think Lawrence can be an injury cover player next game but it's because the squad for tonight was submitted at 5 last night and he was injured after that it got rejected.

Honestly so stupid

 

[hutchy31]

There continues to be an alarming difference in the quality of coaching, captaincy and leadership in the comp.

Are the Sixers and Scorchers just lucking into the best lists/players? Or are the better franchises with better coaches.

If there was any integrity in the Stars lineup then Maxwell would be demoted or even dropped. We all know that won’t happen though.

 

[Aussie_boy]

There continues to be an alarming difference in the quality of coaching, captaincy and leadership in the comp.

Are the Sixers and Scorchers just lucking into the best lists/players? Or are the better franchises with better coaches.

If there was any integrity in the Stars lineup then Maxwell would be demoted or even dropped. We all know that won’t happen though.

As a staunch defender of the BBL I sorta enjoy the Sixers and Scorchers dominance as they're the two teams that take it seriously. Heat finally learned their lesson and sorted their bowling attack/mentality and look what happened. Back in the 14 game seasons I don't remember hearing the Sixers or Scorchers complaining that the season was too long meanwhile Stoinis used to take a weeks break mid-season. In fact I'm pretty sure Greg Shipperd came out when they shortened the season saying it was a mistake.

Scorchers more so than the Sixers have definitely 'lucked' into the fact that WA just produce white ball guns and have had guys like Behrendorff and Tye through their whole careers to date.

 

[happy_eagle]

Scorchers more so than the Sixers have definitely 'lucked' into the fact that WA just produce white ball guns and have had guys like Behrendorff and Tye through their whole careers to date.

They have also lost a bit of talent over the years who have chased money elsewhere, but managed to cover it pretty well

Phillippe
S.Marsh
Bancroft
Whiteman
Tim David
Cartwright
Coulter Nile
Paris
Hogg
Stoinis
M.Hussey
Voges

 

[largebus]

There continues to be an alarming difference in the quality of coaching, captaincy and leadership in the comp.

Are the Sixers and Scorchers just lucking into the best lists/players? Or are the better franchises with better coaches.

If there was any integrity in the Stars lineup then Maxwell would be demoted or even dropped. We all know that won’t happen though.

Sixers and Scorchers build around their local players who are less inclined to leave and chase the $, and fill the gaps with the internationals.

When Khawaja signed with the Heat he told them to do the exact same thing (while telling Chris Lynn and drinking buddies to piss off) and hey presto, they came runners up then won a title.

The Stars are the Heat of several years ago. Maxwell has broken his leg at a party, hit his head fallen off a golf cart and been rushed to hospital after a bender. At the very least, this is not the bloke you want leading your team.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I wonder if part of the "no soul, no culture" problems with the Stars comes from the fact that they play most of their games at the MCG?

If the Renegades get say 20k at Marvel, it at least looks half full and has some noise. If they close the top level and get everyone down near the action, there can actually be a pretty good atmosphere even with a mediocre crowd.

If the Stars get 20k at the G, it just feels like a huge cavernous empty stadium with a bunch of seagulls flying around. There's honestly very little atmosphere with the crowd scattered all over.

It must be harder to build anything other than pure franchise vibes when you play home games in a dead environment.

 

[eth-dog]

Victoria's one day side is pretty decent. Stars need to focus on building on those players rather than interstate guys. From the players who've played at least two games (or international cricket):

Brown: Renegades
Sutherland: Renegades
Short: Strikers
Harper: Stars
Handscomb: No contract
Harris: No contract
Merlo: Stars
Elliott: No contract
Maxwell: Stars
Rogers: Stars
Siddle: Stars (but last year)
Murphy: Sixers
O'Neill: Renegades

They need to dump Stoinis, get short back across and offer him captaincy, somehow tempt Murphy back as well. Handscomb could easily bat 4 for them too.

 

[cats_09]

Victoria's one day side is pretty decent. Stars need to focus on building on those players rather than interstate guys. From the players who've played at least two games (or international cricket):

Brown: Renegades
Sutherland: Renegades
Short: Strikers
Harper: Stars
Handscomb: No contract
Harris: No contract
Merlo: Stars
Elliott: No contract
Maxwell: Stars
Rogers: Stars
Siddle: Stars (but last year)
Murphy: Sixers
O'Neill: Renegades

They need to dump Stoinis, get short back across and offer him captaincy, somehow tempt Murphy back as well. Handscomb could easily bat 4 for them too.

On the eve of the season the Renegades signed Vic duo Harris & Xavier Crone

Not see we'll see either player, as would think that Wells is ahead of Harris as a batting option, and Crone only if we opted to rest one of the current quicks

 

[ioppolo]

Why does Handscomb not get contracts anymore? He tore the Scorchers a new one at one stage.