Famous DT Coaches Thread 2012

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FAMOUS DT COACHES - Round 12 Report

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TRADES:

FanFooty EDT (8)
Steven Morris
Sam Shaw

James Magner
Matthew Priddis

Aaron Hall
Sam Gibson

Team Director (7)
Nick Malceski
Sam Shaw

James Magner
Scott Thompson

Impromptu SCE (3)
Aaron Hall
Sam Gibson

James Magner
Matthew Priddis

Dylan’s FFC (9)
James Magner
Sam Gibson

VinegarStrokes EDT (8)
Marty Clarke
Jed Adcock

Billie Smedts
Sam Shaw

Aaron Hall
Brent Harvey

AFLSpace.com Hacks (7)
Steven Morris
Sam Shaw

James Magner
Matthew Priddis

Brendan Whitecross
Jack Redden

Chook Raffle (9)
Marty Clarke
Sam Shaw

James Magner
Matthew Priddis

David Zaharakis
Matthew Boyd

vamsee (6)
Adam Kennedy
Sam Gibson

Lee Spurr
Sam Shaw

The Baxters (6)
Joshua Bootsma
Sam Shaw

Aaron Sandilands
Todd Goldstein

Orren Stephenson
Jarryd Roughead

Warne Dawgs (10)
Steven Morris
Sam Shaw

James Magner
Matthew Priddis

Hamish McIntosh
Dean Cox

Coaches
dylan123 - Dylan's FFC
LemmingMaster - VinegarStrokes EDT
m0nty - FanFooty EDT
mollyfud - AFLSpace.com Hacks
Director - Team Director
Impromptu - Impromptu SCE
SkankDanker - Chook Raffle
footylover18 - vamsee
thebaxters - The Baxters
Warnie - Warne Dawgs
 
Thanks for the update Jolldo.

I assume most coaches will be making a trade or two this week, so it looks like that the average number of trades remaining heading into the post-MBR period will be ~5-6.

Will be interesting to compare rankings at R10 (pre MBRs) and at the conclusion of this round. Baxters and LemmingMaster have already halved their ranking.

One more thing: the URLs at the bottom of the post are broken.
 

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Thanks for the update Jolldo.

I assume most coaches will be making a trade or two this week, so it looks like that the average number of trades remaining heading into the post-MBR period will be ~5-6.

Will be interesting to compare rankings at R10 (pre MBRs) and at the conclusion of this round. Baxters and LemmingMaster have already halved their ranking.

One more thing: the URLs at the bottom of the post are broken.

It will be interesting, I think most will remain approximately where they were unless things happened to fall into place - it is so challenging to get through the byes successfully.

In future I think it will become a matter of determining which round you are going to take the major hit in and then going camping or skiing that weekend. Or spend it in some sort of alcohol induced stupor. Which I should have done last week.
 
It will be interesting, I think most will remain approximately where they were unless things happened to fall into place - it is so challenging to get through the byes successfully.

In future I think it will become a matter of determining which round you are going to take the major hit in and then going camping or skiing that weekend. Or spend it in some sort of alcohol induced stupor. Which I should have done last week.
I actually considered tanking one week to be strong the other two. It was difficult with the bye putting such strong defenders having a bye in round 13 while the best forwards had byes in round 12.

Was just as hard tanking a round as trying to spread out your players across the byes it seemed.

I actually expected larger fluctuations in rankings from the coaches over the bye rounds but in the end the it's the same for everybody theory seems like most of these coaches haven't had dramatic rankings moves.
 
I actually took my zeros in round 11 and considering that was a low scoring round, it ended up being an okay concept. (Pure luck)

I have done another 3 trades this weekend, so heading for the run home with 5 trades remaining.

Horsley -> Gibson
McDonald -> Selwood
Treloar -> Beams

There were a couple of decisions to make with my trades this weekend. I could have upgraded Hargrave to avoid a zero instead of McDonald to Selwood. The main problem was all the premium backs I wanted had their bye this round.

The next point was which premium midfielder to select and it was Thompson up until around 5 minutes to go and I heard a rumor that Thompson had the Flu and could miss... Made a last second call to switch up to Selwood instead of Thompson.

It will be interesting to see how that trade turns out long term, just have a bad feeling about this trade.

I am still strongly considering making two trades next week and coming home with only 3 LTI trades, I will see how this weekend plays out first.
 
Well I have 4 trades left but feel like I have good cover. This (maybe not 4 trades but arguably too little) had happen the past few years and normally is okay.
So this weeks trades again partly based out of desperation (the big/risky one last)!

Out: Redden
In: Tom Campbell
Analysis: I know this looks like a knee jerk reaction to Tom being upgraded but had this trade or a version of it slated for a few weeks. The thought was Orren would play this week to partner Giles, Trade Redden and rest Hale with the bye. Also have Staley in the forwards that I considered being 4th ruck but have decided to risk leaving him available in the forwards to allow the F/R link. Maybe no value but could be handy in the future.

Out: Horsley
In: Chapman
Analysis:
Make a strength stronger (but wait for next trade). Forwards where my strongest area and made it stronger. Now makes Cloke/Mr X, my F7/F8. Also re-opens the m/f link that I let close last week to get in some underpriced mids. Tossed up who to get with this money but Chappy seems to be quietly putting up big numbers and with the Cats fighting for their spot on the ladder, you couldn't see him being rested but their is always the specter of injury. I thought the risk worth taking on that.

Now the really risky one:
Out: Martin
In: ............Sylvia
Analysis:
Yes, I have lost my mind. The saying "Throwing good money after Bad" could come to mind. So why this one. I have to give some credit (or maybe blame) to Impromptu. So firstly have been a bit disappointed in Martin.Not hitting the highs I hoped. Having a bye this round, it gave an opertunity to move him on. But Sylvia? So Sylvia is at 286k meaning I made a ton of cash for a guy that could average the same sort of level. The extra cash could allow me to move on either Bugg or Clarke to a better back (maybe Enright after last night), rounding out my side. Sylvia/Demons have a great run home! 2 games vs GWS, Suns, Lions, Port and North. They only play two current top 8 sides (Crows in Melbourne in Round 22 and Saints in Round 20). Hes a flat track bullie and I hope that he gets his act together to be a creditable backup that can help cover injuries in forwards and mids. This is without having to get rid of Zorko who might be doing better now but being a rookie could be up and down as well.

So what is my side at the moment? Here it is:

AFLSpace.com Hacks

DEF: G Broughton, H Shaw, B Lake, G Birchall, B Goddard, M Golby, M Clarke, T Bugg, S Shaw
MID: J Redden, S Pendlebury, J Selwood, M Priddis, G Ablett, S Mitchell,D Zorko, J McDonald
RUCK: J Giles, D Hale, O Stephenson, T Campbell
FWD: S Sidebottom, L Franklin, P Chapman, D Beams, S Johnson, P Dangerfield, T Cloke, C Sylvia, J Staley

I think looking at it, the forwards are pretty strong. Cloke and Sylvia are risks but as F7/F8 are fairly okay. Rucks lack class but if averages continue as they have will only cost me about 20pts a week. Mids lack the best of the best (Swan,Thompson,Boyd). Really (apart from Ablett/Pendlebury) the 2nd tier of mids. Backs have the glarring missing piece of Delideo. As mentioned above, could do with one more Premium at least to hopefully add a better degree of consistency and not effected by my guy doing tagging jobs!
If Gibson (north) fires this week, could consider trading him in for McDonald and buying Delideo but more likely bring in Enright next week.

Anyway, thats my sad and sorry team. Writing this year off just trying to get as high as I can but a wasted season.
 
Sylvia is a very brave move mollyfud! I thought he'd be a bargain buy after his first couple of matches where I thought he'd be getting a bit of match fitness but I can't believe how disappointed I've been with his this year. From what he was a couple of years ago, we've now seen him as a tagger in matches.... Best of luck with him, hope he can turn it around for you although I wouldn't be holding my breath!


Made the most of three trade system for the first time this year:

Pfeiffer > Boyd
Horsley > Swan
Stephenson > Campbell

My midfield and forwards are both complete with Zorko being my M7/F8.

I would have liked to have thought my backline was also complete with Malceski/Hargrave being my D7/D8 however, due to their ability to not play games when I actually need them to, I'll be looking to move 1 of them out in the next couple of weeks to another premium who will actually play games.

Once the bye round is over I'll tally up how many zeroes I've got over these three bye rounds which is probably more then what I've got over the last 3 years of playing DT altogether...
 
Looks like Marty Clarke (or now after yesterday, possibly Bugg) has put his hand up to be the defender I trade out for a Premium (most likely Enright at this point).
 
This thread is losing momentum! Byes really take it out of everyone I think, stressfull and unrewarding period of the year.

My goal was to try to upgrade as much as possible through the bye period, and I think I have probably learned a bit for next year. The difference between getting 8 zeros and 12 zeros really comes down to cover...we tend to think that 4 extra zeros = 400 points, but at bye time any cover is often 40-50 points so in reality it is 200 odd points...how much trading should be used to make up that ground?

I think I will stick with the strategy next year, but I am not going to let it determine what the final team looks like though...missing guys like Beams and Scotland due to byes is frustrating. I also brought in Lake for Clarke which gives me an immediate 72 point advantage for the game Lake played, but is it worth it over say a Birchall/Scotland type?

The byes shouldn't make you forget about draw analysis etc either. While it is stressfull I don't mind the challenge it has brought to the game either, I just think it is silly that the league games and eliminator continue through the period. Dumb.

Reading a lot about how teams are "finished". Then Zorko scores 69 and all of a sudeen teams aren't quite so finished anymore!

Zorko copped an elbow to the nose, so I think his career is not quite over.

I am beginning to think that the best areas to look to make up points when you have midfields set etc is in the backs and rucks. Most of my forwards and mids are capable of tonning up, but my ruck combo of Giles and Jacobs needs more Mullett. I have Priddis as my M6 which is fine, but he might turn into Pendlebury if trades allow.

In the backs: I have seen people saying they are trading out Lake...I think Lake is probably a keeper and should average well over 80, maybe 90 odd. He has big games squeezed between games of mediocrity (I hope). The only real premium backs at this stage are Scotland, Birchall, Waters and Deledio. Goddard is a disappointment and if he is rubbed out for a few he is on the block for me. Carrazzo will have quiet games when he tags, but is getting some freedom at the moment and has bottomed out. Next tier is Grimes, Shaw, Adcock, Hanley, Johnson who are all prone to low scoring games. Guys like Lake, Heppell, Suckling, Broughton etc will all be within a few points of each other average wise you would think, hardly worth trading unless you have trades up your sleeve. That is unless Broughton stays forward in which case it is probably worthwhile thinking about moving him on.

My D7 is Shaggy who I think will be a bit up and down, hence looking at upgrading say Shaw to someone if I can.

When I get a chance I will go through my bye trades with a commentary, would be good to see the other coaches do this also.
 
Just did the two trades on the weekend and it was basically to make up points on the pack. I will be hoping that injuries don't strike on the way home. Having only 3 left is going to make life hard.

Giles -> Maric
This is the kind of trade that should have occurred weeks ago. Maric is the player that you watch and was part of your plan teams and just did not make the cut. He then starts scoring premium numbers, but you kick yourself because you did not select him in your initial team. You watch as he maintains premium scoring numbers and increase in price, but for some strange reason, you still don't select him.

Then when he is roughly fully priced, you upgrade to him.

Reminds me of Beams, another player who I wanted in the preseason and took a few too many weeks to select in my teams.

Redden -> Campbell

This is basically a cash grab.
 
Did a midseason/post bye update of my side on FFC last week so I should add the key parts here.

So before the bye rounds hit I was ranked 2,623rd, 3 weeks and 15 donuts later (17 for the season which is probably more than the rest of my seasons put together!) I moved up to 1,651st. I've been saying all along that I wasn't going to trade for the byes and instead would focus on building the strongest team I could but I also expected my rankings to take a bad hit over the byes which I'd have to work on regaining for a few weeks after the bye, so the increase of rank of 1k was very surprising to say the least.

Something that has really killed me this year has been my captain selection. I've been one of the few to miss out on Ablett's 162, 186 and Swan's most recent 172 but have Ablett as captain when he scores 61 and 97 (along with having Selwood as captain for his 67)... My captain average currently sits at 107.18 and my vice captain average at 122.71 (this includes having Mummy and Robinson as VC over the partial lockout rounds where both scored sub 100). Overall I've lost 217 points over the above averages which would have me sitting 558th overall instead of my current rank of 1,215th.


My trades for the past two weeks:

Rd 13 -
Pfeiffer > Boyd
Horsley > Swan
Stephenson > Campbell

Boyd and Swan coming in finishes off my midfield

Rd 14 -
Smedts > Horlin-Smith - Trust Smedts to get named the first week after the byes and score as big as he did...I didn't want to trade him but I also wanted to keep Dickson over him so he got the flick.
Malceski > Carrazzo.


With those 5 trades in the past two weeks I'd like to say my side is now complete with strong cover:

Backs: Deledio, Goddard, Waters, M.Johnson, Lake, Heppell and Carrazzo EMG Hargrave and Spurr
Mids: Swan, Ablett, Byod, Watson, Thompson and Selwood EMG D.Martin and Gibson
Rucks: Maric and Jacobs EMG Jenkins and Campbell
Forwards: Beams, Sidebottom, Chapman, Robinson, Dangerfield, Zorko, Whitecross EMG Dickson and Horlin-Smith

I'd like to believe I'm in a pretty good position to rise up the ranks from here on out with a far stronger best 22 than what I had last year with 4 trades in hand for injuries and such. I've got Hargrave ready to come on for Goddard depending on how long he's gone for, Martin to cover the mids or also swap him in with 6 of my 7 premium forwards as well as Dickson on the bench.

Hopefully Buddy's tight hamstring takes a couple of weeks to recover from! :D
 
Dylan have you gone the whole year without Buddy??

Solid side except for the bottom four forwards. A DP fwd benchie like Crozier would give you a lot of flexibility to bring Martin over if need be and play him ahead of WhiteX (not this week Whitecross will score bloody well against GWS you would think, his type of game).
 

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Dylan have you gone the whole year without Buddy??

Solid side except for the bottom four forwards. A DP fwd benchie like Crozier would give you a lot of flexibility to bring Martin over if need be and play him ahead of WhiteX (not this week Whitecross will score bloody well against GWS you would think, his type of game).
I have! I didn't want to start with Buddy as I thought due to his early draw he'd be likely to drop in price and by the time he was at a cheap price I went for Robinson instead I think which has probably cost me a bit thinking about it now since Robinson cost me more and has averaged less.

I was just thinking about it earlier and that's possibly a mistake I've made with trading Horlin-Smith in over Couch (or another DPP forward). I really wanted to bring in someone that was a chance to play as you never know when you might need multiple guys on which Couch didn't really look to fit that picture. But after Whitecross' poor score I can only think that it was a mistake to not jump on Couch for the DPP purpose to have Martin on over him. On Crozier, the reason I didn't pick him was due to the fact that I thought it would be hard for him to get his spot back in the side with guys like Spurr, Duffield (different positions) pushing hard and the likes of Morabito and Fyfe to return. It also seems Crozier has picked up Gladular fever if twitter is anything to go off so I sort of dodged that bullet (but like Couch, the DPP would have been rather handy).
 
My side is going so badly that I have given up and making decisions that are fun for me rather then necessarily the most optimum decision (i.e. Suckling over Carrots last week).
 
I had 200k+ in the kitty last week and decided to go Clarke -> Carrots even though Clarke was playing. Happy with that.

Four trades left. Thinking of upgrading McDonald to finish my mid six. I only have $109k though so I'd need a double upgrade to reach the top echelon. Currently I'm thinking Orren -> Derickx and McDonald -> Boyd. I think Giles will need an upgrade too so that might come next week with Adams -> McIntyre and Giles -> Maric. That would leave me with zero trades but a full side.

Deledio, Scotland, Birchall, Grimes, Heppell, Carrazzo, Goddard
Bugg, S. Shaw

Swan, Ablett, Boyd, Pendlebury, S. Thompson, Priddis
Gibson, Crozier

Cox, Maric
Derickx, Redden

Sidebottom, Franklin, Beams, Robinson, Dangerfield, Cloke, Zorko
Martin, McIntyre

Bench backs are a bit light on but otherwise I could just pray for minimal LTIs and back that 30 home.
 
I had 200k+ in the kitty last week and decided to go Clarke -> Carrots even though Clarke was playing. Happy with that.

Four trades left. Thinking of upgrading McDonald to finish my mid six. I only have $109k though so I'd need a double upgrade to reach the top echelon. Currently I'm thinking Orren -> Derickx and McDonald -> Boyd. I think Giles will need an upgrade too so that might come next week with Adams -> McIntyre and Giles -> Maric. That would leave me with zero trades but a full side.

Deledio, Scotland, Birchall, Grimes, Heppell, Carrazzo, Goddard
Bugg, S. Shaw

Swan, Ablett, Boyd, Pendlebury, S. Thompson, Priddis
Gibson, Crozier

Cox, Maric
Derickx, Redden

Sidebottom, Franklin, Beams, Robinson, Dangerfield, Cloke, Zorko
Martin, McIntyre

Bench backs are a bit light on but otherwise I could just pray for minimal LTIs and back that 30 home.

Looking at that side, baring a large number of injuries I'm not getting anywhere near you this year!
 
I could conceivably go Adams -> McIntyre/Murdoch and McDonald -> Boyd this week leaving me $102k, then go Giles -> Jacobs next week, leaving me one trade. Hmm.
 
I could conceivably go Adams -> McIntyre/Murdoch and McDonald -> Boyd this week leaving me $102k, then go Giles -> Jacobs next week, leaving me one trade. Hmm.

Giles vs AD plus Boyd vs HW versus Jacobs vs GWS plus Adams vs AD?

50 + 130 versus 110 + 70. Tough choice.
 
I'd end up with the same trade-ins from the three trades, it just depends on which upgrade I delay to next week.

Gotcha. Adams looked good last week I thought, a heap of time in the middle. But Jacobs is no gtee for big points, he absolutely monstered Lobbe last week, not sure he will go quite so large, whereas Boyd against a non-tagging Hawthorn midfield (admittedly Sewell may be back) probably will.

I agree hard choice!
 

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