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ATM you only have 1 midfield gun, so you will need to find the cash to get another + your rucks are a bit weak...IMO. I'd look to downgrade one of Fisher, Shaw or Hodge to fix rucks and then downgrade one of Riewoldt, Bron, Deledio or Buddy to get another midfield gun.
Downgrading in one area to fix another doesn't change much overall though. Every team is going to start with holes/weak spots because of the salary cap restrictions, but finding value in the positions where you spend the least money helps somewhat.
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Very good point. But I just think some balance needs to come into it and ATM there's little in that side. I guess it's personal opinion, but I reckon a midfield should start with at least 2 premiums - no matter where the value is. But footycool said he would have 2 midfield premiums, so all is fine.
Hey guys.......towards the end of the year was LeCras playing forward or mid?
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I Now have Selwood and Goddard as 2 MID guns (If Goddard stays in the backline ill put him in there and get swan into my mid) and Have Roo,Buddy and Delidio in my FWD, ill have 2 see about the rucks... still time 
bit of house cleaning monty, lade and thurstans retired (remove from planner).
Also noticed Tim Boyle and i read on the sun a few weeks ago that he decided to retire.
Since my net is uncapped i just picked a team.
Looks like this
Backs:
Enright
S.Fisher
Hargrave
Hodge
A.Walker
Ladson
J.W.Smith
P.Davis
D.Grimes (someone at that $$ range)
4 premiums, 3 possible keepers and 3 to make $$$.
Mids
Swan
Daziell
Cotchin
Palmer
Mcveigh
Scully
Blease
Shuey
2 Premium, 3 possible keepers, 3 $$$.
Rucks
Brennan
Charman
Warnock
Lobby
1 Premium, hopefully 1 of Charman or Warnock can pull a 70+ avg to be a ruck keeper then Lobby for bench backup.
Forwards
Knights
Franklin
J.Kennedy
Medhurst
Danger
Mayne
Porp
L.Johnston
Gumpleton
2 Premium, 5 possible keepers and 2 $$$.
130k in the bank
Tried to pick a few who i think will improve on their last seasons performance because there is no point trying to pick my best 30 atm since i will change my mind a lot after trades and draft then also pre season.
Mordecai
Norm Smith Medallist
Is it possible for us to enter our own predicted average for players for all our players of interest and then for fanplanner to compute the best possible team based on our predicted average for our players of interest?
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Interesting side - a lot different to mine, you've spent big $$ in the backline and not much up forward, complete reverse for me. No idea which choice would be better?
But I'm wondering where are your 2 forward premiums? Surely you can't count Knights as a premium...the guy didn't average over 85 this year and only scored over 100 three times.
no i already asked monty about that earlier (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15686281#post15686281) i got told there is no point. and
"Yeah chad, I still don't see the point for anyone other than you.
"so clearly you wouldn't use it
First Crack
Goddard, Mackie, Hodge, Fisher, Myers, Ladson, Ash Smith (rookies x2)
Swan, Hayes, Mclean, Palmer, Young, Scully (rookies x2)
Sandilands, Hille (Lobbe, Trengrove)
Pavlich, Deledio, Gian, Murphy, Walker, Mayne, Watts (rookies)
Goddard, Mackie, Hodge, Fisher, Myers, Ladson, Ash Smith (rookies x2)
Swan, Hayes, Mclean, Palmer, Young, Scully (rookies x2)
Sandilands, Hille (Lobbe, Trengrove)
Pavlich, Deledio, Gian, Murphy, Walker, Mayne, Watts (rookies)
If past experience has taught me anything. starting a rookie in the backline can so easily lead to disaster. Lobbe and Trengrove as 3 and 4 are great picks (i have them too
walker,mayne,watts and 2 rookies could be a bit risky too.
walker,mayne,watts and 2 rookies could be a bit risky too.
If past experience has taught me anything. starting a rookie in the backline can so easily lead to disaster. Lobbe and Trengrove as 3 and 4 are great picks (i have them too
walker,mayne,watts and 2 rookies could be a bit risky too.
Which Walker is it? Although granted they're both risky for differing reasons.
Don't mind that side at this stage of the year. Quite like Mayne.
Mordecai
Norm Smith Medallist
no i already asked monty about that earlier (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15686281#post15686281) i got told there is no point. and
"Yeah chad, I still don't see the point for anyone other than you.
so clearly you wouldn't use it
To me that's all people do when making their squad for the year. "I think xyz players will average abc - given I have a pool of 50+ players to fit into 30 positions what is the best combination overall?" - Thus begins a mass shuffling of in's and out's with no real calculations - it's all on instinct. Tinkering would be a lot quicker if you could put your predicted average for every player your interested in and then a program says given your predictions this is the best possible combination....
It saves a lot of time. He didn't say there is no point - he said he didn't see the point. Hopefully everyone can see the point.
Thought I would give this a go, finally got a FF account up and running. Its a bit different from what I ran this year, dont mind the look of it though.
B: Fisher, Hodge, Mackie, Harbrow, Hansen, Myers, Ladson (Polak, Ash Smith)
C: Bartel, Ebert, Ward, Young, Palmer, Scully (rookie x2)
R: Sandilands, Renouf (Hille, Lobbe)
F: Deledio, Franklin, Rioli, LeCras, Gray, Mayne, Wonaeamirri
The players in bold I would expect to be keepers. Players like Gray, Hansen, Myers and Ladson could all be low end keepers, especially in the backline.
The only bad thing with this sort of structure is the amount of mid-pricers in the midfield. MP's have more of a chance of being keepers in the backline or up forward, due to the lower "premium" average. In the mids you want players averaging 100 minimum, which would be a hard task for any of the players I have selected.
Still, its an interesting team. Im going to try and not rely on rookies on the field next year, it went massively pear-shaped for me this year.
B: Fisher, Hodge, Mackie, Harbrow, Hansen, Myers, Ladson (Polak, Ash Smith)
C: Bartel, Ebert, Ward, Young, Palmer, Scully (rookie x2)
R: Sandilands, Renouf (Hille, Lobbe)
F: Deledio, Franklin, Rioli, LeCras, Gray, Mayne, Wonaeamirri
The players in bold I would expect to be keepers. Players like Gray, Hansen, Myers and Ladson could all be low end keepers, especially in the backline.
The only bad thing with this sort of structure is the amount of mid-pricers in the midfield. MP's have more of a chance of being keepers in the backline or up forward, due to the lower "premium" average. In the mids you want players averaging 100 minimum, which would be a hard task for any of the players I have selected.
Still, its an interesting team. Im going to try and not rely on rookies on the field next year, it went massively pear-shaped for me this year.
^^^^ Hodges, I like the look of that team.
Just player specific, how do you rate Brent Renouf, i am really strongly considering him, been in and out of my team about 3 times, but would like a second Hawks supporters opinion. To be honest, i hope he is our first ruckman next year but not sure whether Clarko will see it the same way.
I don't see anything wrong with all the mid-pricers in the middle really. If you think they are the midpriced players that will increase their average by the most then go with them. Yes, the midfield has alot of players that score highly but it does not mean you need to have them in your team and it doesn't mean that you need your players to average 95 minimum or whatever. There are plenty of options in other positions that will score high anyway so i'm sure the rest of the your team would be able to compensate for the 'lack' of guns in your midfield.
I don't see why people feel they have an obligation to trade someone just because they are in a certain position and aren't averaging enough to be a 'premium' in that position. Yes, there are less options in other positions that can average >100 but they are out there (particularly in the forward line), you might have to aim a little higher with your trading for other positions but if 6 mid-priced midfielders offer the best value, go with them I say! Alot of people think the midfield offers a heap of value for trading - which it does because there are a large amount of 'guns' that decrease in price, simply because the midfield has the highest quantity of 'guns'. However, it also offers an absolute heap of mid range value at the start of the year.
Just player specific, how do you rate Brent Renouf, i am really strongly considering him, been in and out of my team about 3 times, but would like a second Hawks supporters opinion. To be honest, i hope he is our first ruckman next year but not sure whether Clarko will see it the same way.
I don't see anything wrong with all the mid-pricers in the middle really. If you think they are the midpriced players that will increase their average by the most then go with them. Yes, the midfield has alot of players that score highly but it does not mean you need to have them in your team and it doesn't mean that you need your players to average 95 minimum or whatever. There are plenty of options in other positions that will score high anyway so i'm sure the rest of the your team would be able to compensate for the 'lack' of guns in your midfield.
I don't see why people feel they have an obligation to trade someone just because they are in a certain position and aren't averaging enough to be a 'premium' in that position. Yes, there are less options in other positions that can average >100 but they are out there (particularly in the forward line), you might have to aim a little higher with your trading for other positions but if 6 mid-priced midfielders offer the best value, go with them I say! Alot of people think the midfield offers a heap of value for trading - which it does because there are a large amount of 'guns' that decrease in price, simply because the midfield has the highest quantity of 'guns'. However, it also offers an absolute heap of mid range value at the start of the year.
I think Renouf is going to be a pretty decent mobile-ruckman. He isnt the greatest tap ruckman, but gets enough to make him DT relevant. He has a pretty good engine and is versatile - he played as a leading forward late in the season when Roughie went down.
He is still pretty raw though, so it all depends on his PS. If he is looking solid (and his disposal improves) then I would consider him. IMO its only a matter of time till he breaks out, just got to pick the right season.
He is still pretty raw though, so it all depends on his PS. If he is looking solid (and his disposal improves) then I would consider him. IMO its only a matter of time till he breaks out, just got to pick the right season.
Yeah, he is certainly athletic enough to be a good DT ruckman. He did quite well being the lone ruckman against the Bombers in the last game which was encouraging after he got absolutely slaughtered early in the season when he came up against Jolly alone. I think he's matured quite alot since then though so one to keep an eye on. As you said, pre-season should be a good indicator.
Ben the Gooner
Stand by Hird
Just threw this together without a huge amount of planning. I'm not really happy with the structure, and haven't had the time to tweak it, but a few comments on this starting point would be appreciated.
B: Bock, Fisher, Hodge, Hill, Buckley, Myers, Gillies (Smith, Davis)
C: Judd, Salopek, Ward, Masten, Palmer, Scully (Blease, Shuey)
R: Brennan, Brogan (Warnock, Lobbe)
F: Goodes, Pavlich, Franklin, Rioli, Porplyzia, Reimers, Yarran (Gumbleton, 90.7k)
Bold are the genuine premiums, and I'd be hoping 2-3 from the mids, 2-3 from the backs, 3 from the forwards and Brogan become keepers as well.
I still think I've underspent on the backline though.
(I know Judd is suspended, but a rookie can cover for three games, and he'll be a very unique player amongst the top players who I expect to do well)
B: Bock, Fisher, Hodge, Hill, Buckley, Myers, Gillies (Smith, Davis)
C: Judd, Salopek, Ward, Masten, Palmer, Scully (Blease, Shuey)
R: Brennan, Brogan (Warnock, Lobbe)
F: Goodes, Pavlich, Franklin, Rioli, Porplyzia, Reimers, Yarran (Gumbleton, 90.7k)
Bold are the genuine premiums, and I'd be hoping 2-3 from the mids, 2-3 from the backs, 3 from the forwards and Brogan become keepers as well.
I still think I've underspent on the backline though.
(I know Judd is suspended, but a rookie can cover for three games, and he'll be a very unique player amongst the top players who I expect to do well)
Yeah i counted Knights and Franklin as premiums but i guess you would not. I think its me more what i expect them to be next season.
In a way i think having fewer keepers in the mid could be good because when it comes to upgrading you will know which are the best mids and will be able to get them into your side.
I personally dont think its worth copping 3 weeks of having to play a rooke (and potentially zeros) just to get someone who might be unique among the "top players", with a bit of upside (in your opinion).
Rookies in the first round are incredibly hard due to the fact we often dont get to see many final teams, pre-lockout rush etc etc. I started with anthony, beams, otten and rich in my midfield in 2009 - that seemed pretty solid, and i was confident 3 of those would get games. But, anthony went down - if i had of been carrying a suspended/injured player like judd, i would of been copping a zero before the season had begun.
Just not a risk im willing to take, though i understand it does depend on your structure, the rookies, etc etc.
