some people just like going into a crowded room of other people having fun and farting. [sigh]No it's not the place for your BS, when the thread is a toast and a farewell to a champion of the game. There are numerous other threads to discuss him negatively, this is not the place for it. I know you think your opinion is always warranted and correct, but there is no need for it in this thread. If you're going to slander him on his day of retirement, then get lost.
Joel is an ornament to the game, and it took me a long time but I am finally beginning to understand how he helped shape Geelong's current culture.