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Fev back off the wagon
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OK, so Daytripper, its obvious you don't like Carlton and Fevola and are doing everything you can to express it and get other people on your side...pathetic mate.
Make your point and give it up, but I guess its no surprise, the Bummers win and still find something to whinge, complain and cry about.
FWIW, I don't see a problem with ANYONE going out and having a drink after a game, whether it be to 5am or 9pm, they deserve a life and if they aren't causing problems for other people all themselves, then there is no issue.
Make your point and give it up, but I guess its no surprise, the Bummers win and still find something to whinge, complain and cry about.
FWIW, I don't see a problem with ANYONE going out and having a drink after a game, whether it be to 5am or 9pm, they deserve a life and if they aren't causing problems for other people all themselves, then there is no issue.
Swann was aware that Fevola told associates that he was off the drink but I see no mention of Brendan promising the club itself he wouldn't imbide. You're seeing what you want to see.
Jack Elliott is to blame 
JeffDunne
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Carlton supporters do make me laugh.
Why deny it? He swore off the grog and every person quoted from the club has repeated that line. Who needs a newspaper quote to back up what I thought was common knowledge? In fact, why would the paper even run the story of him being out if that wasn't the case?
Anyhow, why do you care?
Whatever he's doing atm I'd tell him to keep doing.
Why deny it? He swore off the grog and every person quoted from the club has repeated that line. Who needs a newspaper quote to back up what I thought was common knowledge? In fact, why would the paper even run the story of him being out if that wasn't the case?
Anyhow, why do you care?
Whatever he's doing atm I'd tell him to keep doing.
JeffDunne
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Jack Elliott is to blame
I did get a chuckle hering Jack's quotes on Fev & drinking after the game.
Not sure what was funnier - him being in the rooms after the game or him passing comment on someone's behaviour when on the drink.
You've gotta love them.
I for one don't care, and have said so. Seems plenty of other (mainly opposition) fans do though.
You need the quote because the media have a tendency to invent common knowledge, look at this particular situation.
Its gone from Fev probably telling a few mates he's gonna try to stay away from the grog sessions during the season to him making a solemn and grave commitment to the club not to touch a single drop, and breaking this (now set-in-stone) commitment by having a few drinks after a great win. Please.
And not that I care, its irrelevant, but - "why would the paper even run the story of him being out if that wasn't the case". Geez Jeff if you can't answer that one for yourself I'm not sure I can explain it to you.
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Mate, your denial is sickening. One article states the club and those closest to Brendan was aware he would stop drinking and had imposed not just a season ban but a career ban on booze, and a second article contains a direct quote from Fevola saying that as long as he doesn't drink he'll be right, and you still can't work it out. Your putting your argument down to how you (a Carlton fan
Mate... you can put down the Alka Seltzer. My denial is dependent on your words holding some truth, so really I'm not in denial of anything. Your comments on 2006 were off the mark and your comments re this incident aren't much different.
AFAIC he never said he wouldn't drink. I wouldn't be relying on the writings of Mark Robinson for my facts, rather what was said by the man himself. Fev spoke on TFS and said that he wouldn't have a drink; which was also referred to in the same line as getting on the sauce. Now some will say it's drawing a long bow, but to me getting on the sauce is pretty distinct in its meaning; as has since been clarified.
Fev has been having the odd one for a while now, mostly at home I hear, and I thought most people knew about it. By the reaction of some in this thread that appears not to be the case.
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One could say you are doing exactly the same.
Swann, the CEO for christs sake, was aware Fevola had self- imposed a career long ban on booze.
As a neutral, looking at the quote, I take that as the club being aware of what course of action he was taking.
You, as a Carlton fan (surprise, surprise) don't.
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Believe what you want mate but the fact is you are desperately clutching at very thin straws.
Your whole POV in this argument is based on how you've interpreted Fevola saying "as long as he's off the drink" he'll be fine, which isn't really a stable foundation in your case.
Fevola self- imposed a career long booze ban, the club was aware that was the case from the CEO down to the coach, so he'd obviously spoken about it internally, and if it wasn't true (as you believe) someone in Fevola's camp could have denied it or clarified it which they never did.
From a neutral standpoint, all signs point to Fev going against his word... again.
P.S: My point about 2006 was Fev said he was off the drink, I admitted I was wrong about WHY he went off the drink, but that is insignificant in the scheme of that part of my argument so you may as well stop referring to it, it really doesn't matter why the fact is he did say he was off booze in 2006, but once he returned to some bad habits it quickly spiralled out of control.
That's not a fact. You were grossly wrong about 2006. Now that's a fact. You tried to use an incident to prove a point and got it all wrong; not just the why. The relevance is that a similar event is unfolding right here and now.
When a guy says he won't get on the sauce, it's not clutching at straws to extrapolate the meaning that I have. I venture to suggest it is an even more valid interpretation than your career long booze ban headline impersonation.
As for your assertion that the club was aware from the CEO down to coach, don't speak so suredly.
The CEO - The media spoke to Swann who replied it's what Brendan has told people.
The Coach - In one article the opening paragraph states
Then when you actually read what Ratten says when questioned about it he replies:
Hard hitting stuff right there... thoroughly compelling
The press write a story and you're all over what they say, but have trouble discerning what is actually said. This leaves you with few actual facts, yet imbued with the idea that now you know the truth.
As for Fev's camp coming out to clarify, he did set the record straight since those articles, explaining it was not promise to tee-total. Additional to this is that he has had the odd drink since then and supporters and the club know about it. You really have no point but it seems you've got your mind set in stone. I guess it's best to just leave you reading the headlines now I suppose.
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Why does a small paragraph in a paper get 6 pages of crap. Must be more important things to do with our lives. It was a "snippet" column so he could've been drinking lemonade for all we knew.
As long as he aims it at the porcellin bowl and not the window I don't really care.
As long as he aims it at the porcellin bowl and not the window I don't really care.
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Again, you interpret that as:
"If that's the case (as in, if he has said that he'll stay off it) then that is fantastic."
I interpret that as:
"If that's the case (as in, if he is willing to and can stay off the booze as he's told us) then that is fantastic."
We are just going to have to agree to disagree, because this isn't getting anywhere.
"If that's the case (as in, if he has said that he'll stay off it) then that is fantastic."
I interpret that as:
"If that's the case (as in, if he is willing to and can stay off the booze as he's told us) then that is fantastic."
We are just going to have to agree to disagree, because this isn't getting anywhere.
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Even in the form he's in, he really isn't worth the trouble.
Even in the form he's in, he really isn't worth the trouble.
So you didn't see him say, this came right from his mouth, that he would not have alcohol again in his entire career?I for one don't care, and have said so. Seems plenty of other (mainly opposition) fans do though.
You need the quote because the media have a tendency to invent common knowledge, look at this particular situation.
Its gone from Fev probably telling a few mates he's gonna try to stay away from the grog sessions during the season to him making a solemn and grave commitment to the club not to touch a single drop, and breaking this (now set-in-stone) commitment by having a few drinks after a great win. Please.
And not that I care, its irrelevant, but - "why would the paper even run the story of him being out if that wasn't the case". Geez Jeff if you can't answer that one for yourself I'm not sure I can explain it to you.
Ah, some saints supporters do make me laugh
He said this on the footy show.
Agreed
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