Films that have aged because of bad behaviour

[GreyCrow]

Yep Dfens is now the norm rather than the societal outlier it was at the time

 

[JackOutback]

Austin Powers might be able to get away with it by being mostly a satire & even playing on how everything is essentially meant to send up the silly nature of older films.

Austin Powers was big on consent… ahead of its time in some ways.

 

[Andre]

My first thought was Blazing Saddles

Watched the Gene Wilder doco last night and it had clips of it and even cut the N stuff out. Personally I think it was never used racially but as an afront to racism as a mirror to it - but I recognise its green lighting wont happen today

It wouldn't get made today, but it's clearly showing all the racist characters are idiots and how stupid their racism is.

 

[Nugett]

Another film that feels that way to me is Falling Down. More & more the pressures experienced by Duvall & Dfens are true today, and we see many people worn down by the world in a similar manner, even snapping, or I guess being into opioids in situations like these.



Austin Powers might be able to get away with it by being mostly a satire & even playing on how everything is essentially meant to send up the silly nature of older films.

To add another film that was before its time, was Demolition Man. The describing of how every one has to be “nice”. How corporations have taken over, In the film it was Taco Bell, so the only restaurant you could go to was Taco Bell ect. Falling Down is another one.

On movies that have changed people perspective’s obviously any comedy movie from the 70’s & 80’s. Examples being Porky’s, Airplane, Animal House, Blazing Saddles ect. Of movies, Braveheart, mainly because of Mel Gibson and his drunken rant years ago, along with fictional inaccuracies, the same could be argued with his later film The Patriot. I would doubt if a movie like Logan’s Run would get made in today’s time due to its topic of ageism

 

[Nugett]

It wouldn't get made today, but it's clearly showing all the racist characters are idiots and how stupid their racism is.

It’s a lot like Kingswood Country, where the butt of the joke is on the actual racist, but that is not what people generally perceive,they are too hooked up on the words rather than the actions.

 

[ioppolo]

The Hangover Trilogy for sure

Not sure what's wrong with this one. Do you mind elaborating?

 

[ioppolo]

Austin Powers series which I thoroughly have enjoyed would be questioned today by some, to me it's still fun and I'd happily lazily watch it, though I recognise it probably wouldn't get made these days.

I barely remember them but I've also been told Ace Ventura.

Also, I reckon some of the early Bond/007 movies would have some female/male cliches that would be frowned on

I watched the first Ace Ventura recently, nothing stood out as being abhorrent. Jim Carrey just being Jim Carrey

 

[TheEscapeClub]

One that I think is the opposite of what the OP asks for is The Life of Brian.

Attacked hard by the church upon it's realise.

 

[Seeds]

Dustin hoffmans the graduate.

The character we are supposed to root for is literally a sick stalker who should be in prison. Its horrific.

Im staggered this movie hasnt been cancellled yet.

 

[emuboy]

If nothing bad at all had happened on the show 'Hey Dad', this feature of the sitcom's early episodes would be referred to as 'Early Instalment Weirdness', often seen in early series of TV shows where something doesn't seem to be working as hoped or there is a change of tone or dynamics, anything along these lines.

In the first six or so episodes of 'Hey Dad!' the father Martin Kelly, played by Robert Hughes, would at times break the fourth wall and talk to the audience directly. It was then found by show runners that this gimmick wasn't really working or liked by audiences, so was discontinued and not used again.

Viewed many years later it would appear as nothing more than a forgotten anomaly, if not for the shocking allegations that arose from the set of the show and Robert Hughes specifically resulting in the actor spending about a decade in Goulburn, and not because he had purchased a hobby farm and retired to the NSW Southern Tablelands. Now, the thought of Mr. Kelly being able to look through one's TV and into one's living room and talking directly to one's children is definitely troubling ...

 

[El Doederino]

The Shining is still a great movie and watched it recently, but it does make it difficult knowing that Shelley Duvall's performance as an anxious, tortured woman was because the director was torturing her so incessantly.

 

[El Doederino]

Thoughts on American Beauty?

I've not heard of Kevin Spacey misbehaving on the set of that movie, which included several young actors. But from a couple of reports it seems his idea of consent was to touch someone sexually and he would stop if they didn't like it. There could clearly be a power dynamic going on there. It's been one of my favourite movies but I can't help but view it in a different light after his personal habits have been revealed.

American Beauty is also a tough watch now because of how inherently stupid it is. I think there's other movies like that, where at the time they were heralded as having some deeper meaning but over time seem to be a bit of a joke. I think Slumdog Millionaire is a bit like that too. The Twilight movies were huge at the time, but now seem so slow and dull.

Forrest Gump went through it, but I think its come back the other way now to being thought well of again.

 

[The Terrible Thinker]

Its a question that do you feel guilty enjoying a movie, TV show or even a stand up comedy show from the past that would now be seriously frowned upon?

I was only listening to Jim Jefferies the other day and felt conflicted to a degree. Getting caught watching Kingswood Country would probably see me executed live on social media.

There was a interesting episode on the TV show Orville that tackled a society that is ruled by social media law. Depending on how many up votes or down votes you get, determines your status in society. If you get too many down votes, then you get lobotomized.

 

[Pistol Night]

Its a question that do you feel guilty enjoying a movie, TV show or even a stand up comedy show from the past that would now be seriously frowned upon?

I was only listening to Jim Jefferies the other day and felt conflicted to a degree. Getting caught watching Kingswood Country would probably see me executed live on social media.

There was an interesting episode on the TV show Orville that tackled a society that is ruled by social media law. Depending on how many up votes or down votes you get, determines your status in society. If you get too many down votes, then you get lobotomized.

If people tried to remember that actors and comedians are performing a role that is fictitious rather than acting out their true personalities there would probably be a lot less angst in the world of entertainment

 

[GreyCrow]

Its a question that do you feel guilty enjoying a movie, TV show or even a stand up comedy show from the past that would now be seriously frowned upon?

I felt odd watching Django Unchained with the use of the n word. Understood the historical context but even so it jarred

I did notice Tarantino seemed to be the only actor not to use it

I was only listening to Jim Jefferies the other day and felt conflicted to a degree. Getting caught watching Kingswood Country would probably see me executed live on social media.

Interesting point. I think I would be less jarred because to me Ted is a buffoon who is scared of change and spreads his racism around.

 

[The Dice Man]

When I was young I loved Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids,

Im not sure what that would be called these days;

Maybe something like, "Unfortunate Albert who has a Disfunctioning and Slow Digestive System, and The Cosby Kids: Sleeping even deeper than their mums.

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Its a question that do you feel guilty enjoying a movie, TV show or even a stand up comedy show from the past that would now be seriously frowned upon?

I was only listening to Jim Jefferies the other day and felt conflicted to a degree. Getting caught watching Kingswood Country would probably see me executed live on social media.

There was a interesting episode on the TV show Orville that tackled a society that is ruled by social media law. Depending on how many up votes or down votes you get, determines your status in society. If you get too many down votes, then you get lobotomized.

It's funny when people forget that Kingswood Country is meant to be making fun of Ted Bulpit. He was meant to be a buffoon and laughed at.

Great article at:

Tributes flow for Kingswood Country star Ross Higgins

Ross Higgins, the former star of Kingswood Country, who died aged 86, is remembered by his peers as a "vast talent".

www.abc.net.au

Weirdly I've heard lots of people say the movie "It's Pat" wouldn't get made nowadays for fear that it's making fun of gender issues but it's pretty clear watching that once again, it's the people who are obsessed with gender who are being made fun of and shown to be crazy all throughout. Admittedly lots of people just think it's a crap film but it's definitely a guilty pleasure for me.

 

[Mentallo]

It's funny B Saddles was on one of the Foxtel movie channels very very recently, like the last 6 months or so maybe less and much to my surprise the N word was not edited out for current audiences.

 

[DIG]

Not a film OP but Fawlty Towers is so racist and sexist, no way you could pilot it now. And it’s still utterly hilarious

Then there’s Tropic Thunder, not sure it’s on topic here or not but anyway I don’t recall any backlash to Blackface RDJ at the time, well he got the best actor didn’t he. Then last couple of years something shifted and he had to defend himself repeatedly.

 

[Kong]

Not a film OP but Fawlty Towers is so racist and sexist, no way you could pilot it now. And it’s still utterly hilarious

Then there’s Tropic Thunder, not sure it’s on topic here or not but anyway I don’t recall any backlash to Blackface RDJ at the time, well he got the best actor didn’t he. Then last couple of years something shifted and he had to defend himself repeatedly.

No, there was backlash at the time.

The studio's defence was that it was satire, that it was making fun of actors rather than black people.

I remember a few black (non acting) public figures outraged, as well as quite a large chunk of the public.

 

[JackOutback]

Once people saw the film, it was blatantly obvious that the subject of the joke was pompous white actors, which is why it passed muster. He is also called to account within the film. People seem to bring it up occasionally but he doesn't get 'cancelled' because most people understand the joke. Aged less well is Stiller's Simple Jack. Again, the joke is on actors using disability to win favour with the Oscars, but portrayal and regular use of the phrase full-****** doesn't land well today at all.

 

[GreyCrow]

In that vein would The Ringer get made today?

Johnny Knoxville pretends to have a disability to get into the Special Olympics now called the Paralympics

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Should period movies and tv shows that are made now include things like homophobia, the n word etc to accurately depict the eras they are showing?

Or does that help perpetuate attitudes and language that are no longer acceptable?

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Should period movies and tv shows that are made now include things like homophobia, the n word etc to accurately depict the eras they are showing?

Or does that help perpetuate attitudes and language that are no longer acceptable?

and do our stories need heroes and morals? Can they just be the tale of something that happened that wasn't good and wasn't fixed?

 

[El Doederino]

Should period movies and tv shows that are made now include things like homophobia, the n word etc to accurately depict the eras they are showing?

Or does that help perpetuate attitudes and language that are no longer acceptable?

I don't think its necessary

I don't really care for "accurately depicting the eras"

In many of those eras, they didn't have toilets so carried around buckets or just shat their pants. The dress department usually overlooks that and it doesn't take away from the film.