Flaggers v Non-Flaggers

[NetworkNerd]

This is Aaron Keating slander and I will not stand for it.

 

[kickazz]

Good thread idea.

If we arbitrarily say you need to have played at least 100 games to be considered, would the number of players in the 'non flag' camp significantly outweigh the flag camp?

Weight of numbers to pick from alone would be some advantage to the non-flag players.

Then of course you have to consider: with the likes of Bobby Skilton standing out in poor sides - would he just be another good player in a top side, or would good teammates elevate his play even further?

 

[Hawksboy72]

No Flags.
Coach: Len Smith
Captain: Bob Skilton
V-Captain: Robbie Flower

Flags.
Coach: Norm Smith
Captain: Leigh Matthews
V-Captain: Ron Barrasi

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[RonnieRaven]

Non flag team

Fb Burke McPharlin Gasper

HB. R.smith Roos Goddard

C Harvey Buckley winmar

HF Pavlich Reiwoldt Ablett snr

Ff modra. Lockett Betts

Fol. Sandilands Fyfe P Kelly


Flag side

Fb b hart Scarlett waganeen

Hb Enright jackovich McLeod

C Bradley Voss black

Hf Martin Carey Akermanis

FF jarman dunstall tredrea

Fol cox Ablett jnr diesel

Flag side wins with a lot better defence
Not much either way in the other field areas

Sorry in advance for any oversights
This is from AFL era that i remember.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Good thread idea.

If we arbitrarily say you need to have played at least 100 games to be considered, would the number of players in the 'non flag' camp significantly outweigh the flag camp?

Weight of numbers to pick from alone would be some advantage to the non-flag players.

Then of course you have to consider: with the likes of Bobby Skilton standing out in poor sides - would he just be another good player in a top side, or would good teammates elevate his play even further?

Yeah just make your teams everybody is eligible.

Non-flag camp would have more players to pick from but quality could outweigh quantity from the flag camp side.

 

[BF Tiger]

Rene Kink gets a jersey as a non-flagger who went oh so close.

 

[Mr Meow]

Non flag team

Fb Burke McPharlin Gasper

HB. R.smith Roos Goddard

C Harvey Buckley winmar

HF Pavlich Reiwoldt Ablett snr

Ff modra. Lockett Betts

Fol. Sandilands Fyfe P Kelly


Flag side

Fb b hart Scarlett waganeen

Hb Enright jackovich McLeod

C Bradley Voss black

Hf Martin Carey Akermanis

FF jarman dunstall tredrea

Fol cox Ablett jnr diesel

Flag side wins with a lot better defence
Not much either way in the other field areas

Sorry in advance for any oversights
This is from AFL era that i remember.

I'll keep mine to AFL era to fit your criteria.

Flaggers

FB: Enright Scarlett Wanganeen
HB: Hodge Rance McLeod

C: Judd Voss Matera
FOL: Cox Williams Ablett.Jr

HF: Hird Carey Martin
FF: Franklin Dunstall S.Johnson

IC: Goodes Cousins Akermanis Dangerfield

Non-flaggers

FB: Burke Andrews Clement
HB: R.Smith Roos Hinkley

C: P.Kelly Hocking Buckley
FOL: Stynes R.Harvey Fyfe

HF: Pavlich N.Riewoldt Ablett.Sr
FF: Modra Lockett B.Johnson

IC: Richarson Goddard West Betts

Non-flaggers would have GAS, Pavlich, B.Johnson, Smith, Buckley and Richardson running havoc as utilities.

Although the flaggers could rightly do the same with McLeod, Hodge, Goodes, Akermanis, Hird and Dangerfield.

Edit: Out Rutten, in Andrews.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Just considering some of the teams who've had memorable droughts over the history of the league, a few names I'd throw up from each team (several of these could have been included under multiple teams, so I've just gone with the team that i associate them most readily with:

Adelaide: Tony Modra, Eddie Betts
Brisbane: Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

Carlton: Bruce Comben, John James, Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

Collingwood: Des Tuddenham, Len Thompson, Nathan Buckley
Essendon: Zac Merrett
Fitzroy: Kevin Murray, Garry Wilson, Paul Roos, Bernie Quinlan, John Murphy
Fremantle: Matthew Pavlich

Matthew Pavlich

Age

42

Ht

192cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

G

2.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

12.8

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

8.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

3.4

5star

, Nat Fyfe, Aaron Sandilands

Aaron Sandilands

Age

42

Ht

211cm

Wt

118kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

31.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

5.4

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

2.0

2star

HO

13.6

5star

Geelong: Gary Ablett Sr. Garry Hocking, Paul Couch, Dick Grigg, Joe Slater, Henry Young
Gold Coast: N/A
GWS: Toby Greene

4

Toby Greene

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

G

1.2

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

G

2.3

5star

D

26.6

5star

K

12.4

5star

HB

14.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.0

1star

Hawthorn: Col Austen, Bert Mills, Jim Bohan
Melbourne: Gary Hardeman, Robert Flower, Garry Lyon, Jim Stynes
Port Adelaide: Travis Boak

10

Travis Boak

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

Richmond: Matthew Richardson

Matthew Richardson

Age

49

Ht

195cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.0

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

3.1

3star

M

8.0

5star

T

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

7.8

5star

T

0.8

3star

, Maurice Rioli Sr, Bill Morris, Roy Wright
St Kilda: Tony Lockett

Tony Lockett

Age

58

Ht

191cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

6.3

5star

T

0.5

3star

G

4.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.6

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.4

5star

, Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Trevor Barker, Nicky Winmar, Nathan Burke, Lenny Hayes

Lenny Hayes

Age

44

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

0.4

3star

Sydney: Bob Skilton, Peter Bedford, Gerard Healy, Paul Kelly, Barry Round
West Coast: N/A
Western Bulldogs: Gary Dempsey, Doug Hawkins, Brad Johnson

Brad Johnson

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

14.1

5star

HB

5.6

4star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.8

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.6

3star

, Scott West

Scott West

Age

50

Ht

178cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

12.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.0

3star

, Chris Grant

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

I'll keep mine to AFL era to fit your criteria.

Flaggers

FB: Enright Scarlett Wanganeen
HB: Hodge Rance McLeod

C: Judd Voss Matera
FOL: Cox Williams Ablett.Jr

HF: Hird Carey Martin
FF: Franklin Dunstall S.Johnson

IC: Goodes Cousins Akermanis Dangerfield

Non-flaggers

FB: Burke Rutten Clement
HB: R.Smith Roos Hinkley

C: P.Kelly Hocking Buckley
FOL: Stynes R.Harvey Fyfe

HF: Pavlich N.Riewoldt Ablett.Sr
FF: Modra Lockett B.Johnson

IC: Richarson Goddard West Betts

Non-flaggers would have GAS, Pavlich, B.Johnson, Smith, Buckley and Richardson running havoc as utilities.

Although the flaggers could rightly do the same with McLeod, Hodge, Goodes, Akermanis, Hird and Dangerfield.

Not a bad effort. Harris Andrews a much better player than Rutten. Id also swap Dunstall with Billy Frampton.

 

[Mr Meow]

Not a bad effort. Harris Andrews a much better player than Rutten. Id also swap Dunstall with Billy Frampton.

Actually, not a bad point about Andrews. I wasn't thinking much about current players except for Dangerfield and Fyfe, who are close to retirement (i.e have played their peak footy).

Greene could also end up a contender for one of these sides?

Anyone else from the current crop of players (let's set the mark at 25yo or older, no young pups)?