Flemington "Super Saturday" 8/3

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Id love put an early bet on the JAYCO SIRES' PRODUCE STAKES. Does anyone know of any betting agencies that have a market?
 
W.H is beatable IMO. At caulfield it's a different story, at Flemington it might get knocked off. If Rawiller gets to confident and works to hard to try get a perfect run, it might just run out of steam and get run over the top off by a horse with a good finish (eg playwright).. Time will tell, I'm heading out there Saturday.

I doubt Playwright will knock off the Hussler, it's not running in the same race :)
 

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Weekend Hussler and Fantastic Light are two horses who look absolutely amazing but I get the feeling that one of them might get beaten. I think Playwright might get up in the ginueas, works on one of my omens - back the replaced jockey (ie Williams on Niconero to beat Miss Finland last week). With King getting the ride on Playwright after having a go on Light Fantastic it might work, but King was merely filling in he didn't ever really have the ride so then again it might not work.

Rubiscent might be the one to back at big odds in the Cup, he put in a shocker in the spring before coming out and winning the underwood at $35 so could repeat the trick and might be worth a dabble. Barrier 2 suits him perfectly and Craig Newitt knows how to win on Super Saturday. Naturally listen to Mick Price if he says otherwise.
 
Into $1.70. I did well last week at $2.10, but I doubt I'll be putting anything worthwhile on at those odds. Will be happy to cheer it home just the same.

I was going to put a few hundred @ 1.90 on TAB fixed odds, but was convinced that would get better odds at the track. Now that it has slid into 1.70, will definatly be getting on at the track. hope it may drift a bit and i can get a least 1.80-1.90.

whats everyone feeling about Miss Finland, has she got one last run in her? I was burnt last run, but i still have a soft spot for her, if i collect on WH, i may have a small go at her, she owes me, I think all the wins i had on her have no been eroded.
 
Surely Douro Valley is the one to beat over the 2000m. The only things that bet it last campaign were big Mal and Master O'Reilly. Its run for third over the unsuitable distance was great. I really cant see it getting beaten and being a Cup the odds will be more than generous on the TAB.

Other bet for the day atm will be Sonic Quest should have blitzed them last start, hopefully it will be ridden like a horse that is going to win. Its last run was very questionable riding by the jockey I cant remember....;)

I'm keeping out of the Hustler and Light Fantastic's races. I think we are just waiting for Superstars and getting over excited when a horse wins 2 or 3 in a row. IMO the Hussler will struggle down the straight, I think it ran 8th at Flemington last campaign (I could be wrong) and Light Fantastic is unproven in a tough race.

Will be an interesting days racing tho, thats for sure
 
Surely Douro Valley is the one to beat over the 2000m. The only things that bet it last campaign were big Mal and Master O'Reilly. Its run for third over the unsuitable distance was great. I really cant see it getting beaten and being a Cup the odds will be more than generous on the TAB.

Other bet for the day atm will be Sonic Quest should have blitzed them last start, hopefully it will be ridden like a horse that is going to win. Its last run was very questionable riding by the jockey I cant remember....;)

I'm keeping out of the Hustler and Light Fantastic's races. I think we are just waiting for Superstars and getting over excited when a horse wins 2 or 3 in a row. IMO the Hussler will struggle down the straight, I think it ran 8th at Flemington last campaign (I could be wrong) and Light Fantastic is unproven in a tough race.

Will be an interesting days racing tho, thats for sure

When WH finish back in the pack, it was over the mile. It won the 1200m down the straight on Derby day
 

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Sonic Quest has drawn second from the outside, so hopefully better odds might be on offer.

Outside the features I am looking foward to the fillies race over 1400m to see Consiton Gem, Catechuchu and Miss Gundowring battle it out. All last start winners and could turn out to be a cracking three horse duel
 
I was going to put a few hundred @ 1.90 on TAB fixed odds, but was convinced that would get better odds at the track. Now that it has slid into 1.70, will definatly be getting on at the track. hope it may drift a bit and i can get a least 1.80-1.90.

whats everyone feeling about Miss Finland, has she got one last run in her? I was burnt last run, but i still have a soft spot for her, if i collect on WH, i may have a small go at her, she owes me, I think all the wins i had on her have no been eroded.


I think a horse needs to be aimed at a major to win it. The connections of MF have changed direction for this mare too many times, she cant win a 2000m grp1 if she had been in training for the shorter distances. Surely you cant decide a week out from a grp 1 that you'll have a crack and win it?? Now if d hayes has trained 5100 winners, thats 5100 more than me, i dont believe he is control of when and where this horse runs.
 
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I think a horse needs to be aimed at a major to win it. The connections of MF have changed direction for this mare too many times, she cant win a 2000m grp1 if she had been in training for the shorter distances. Surely you cant decide a week out from a grp 1 that you'll have a crack and win it?? Now if d hayes has trained 5100 winners, thats 5100 more than me, i dont believe he is control of when and where this horse runs.

Great post. They definetly don't know what they're doing and have lost the plot. they need to face the facts./
 
only had a glance, but i reckon my quaddie will be looking something like this....

dance hero, WH, Bon Hoffa, Stanzout
playwright, light fantastic, pillar of hercules
princess coup, sirmione, rubiscent
sonic quest

$36 for 100%
 
Your probably right because I can't remember his run in the race, but it doesn't read well finishing 7th behind six stayers over 1700m. Either way I see him as a good value runner.
I just watched a replay of that race, he had no chance of getting out.. Got boxed on the rails down the straight, only got out with 50m to go and ran over what he could.
 
Bon Hoffa is the value if anything is to beat W.H.
He's $14 and is much better suited in this than the Oakleigh Plate where he was $9.
Odds which have blown out due to him running 11th in the Oakleigh Plate.
I reckon just completely ignore that run, he was never a chance from barrier 1, likes/needs to get to the outside, he was running sideways all the way down the straight in the O.P. trying to get widest!


Couldn't agree more is clearly the second best horse in the race. 3.14 the place is good value will run 1-2-3 no doubt lets just hope Mr Duric dosn't produce one of those rides where he absolute slaughters him like he did in the Oakleigh. But being down the straight drawn the middle no excuses.
 
Final fields up, at this early stage I like:

R1 - Starfish - Willo/Hayes to bounce back in the 2YO stakes race
R2 - Tan Tat De Lago is probably the only of these who hasn't let anyone down yet. The others have looked great at times then flopped. Pins on Parade would win on its best I feel although its last run was god awful.
R3 - Burgeis with the extra dist and Flem track, with Zapurple place bet if at odds
R4 - Absolut Glam on the home track
R5 - Would give Blessed a chance based on her Spring first up run, Miss Gundowring place
R6 - Hussler, leg 1
R7 - Light Fantastic, leg 2
R8 - Douro Valley, Ive talked myself into it, want value and hes on track.
R9 - Sonic Quests gate will either be no problem or cost it the win to a Orange County or a sneaky well weighted Blitzem Riley
 
Weekend Hussler in the Newmarket but big watch for Dance Hero who enjoys running down the straight over the straight 6 and at the odds is good value.

Really really like Playwright in the Guineas have been watching this horse all this campaign and has been totally set for this race and looks spot on.
On the big spacious track will b getting over the top of em late.
Light Fantastic will b extremely hard to beat with Marching and Largo Lad back to a big track getting to the line strongly.

In the Cup i'm going with King Bart with Sirmione. 2 runs from a spell have been massive and gets to the 2000 m in which he won the Mackinnon.
Was held up for a run last time out and motored to the line.
Obvious danger is Princess Coup who has come back in leaps and bounds from her very good spring campaign.
Other danger is Douro Valley who ran a great race at its last start and loves Flemington and the 2000 m and will b at good odds.

Best bet for me is Playwright in the guineas

Happy punting boys and girls
 
Sensational day of racing. :thumbsu: :thumbsu:

Sires:
Von Costa De Hero. Liked his run in the Blue Diamond Prelude, ran on well for 4th when nothing made ground in that race.

Kewney:
My favourite race on the day. 6 of the 11 horses are ones that are well worth following on their last runs. And they all clash here it is quite ridiculous and exciting. Miss Marielle was the one in particular i wanted to see again after its last run, and now it's come up against this field. So i'll tip her, with no confidence given the opposition, Queen Of Queens is good value.

Mares Race 5:
Eskimo Queen is first up Flem 1400, and was first up Flem 1400 last time when 2nd to Devil Moon. That looks good and her weight here looks good too. O'Marie scratched Wednesday for this, charged home for 2nd 1200 Miss Gundowring. Bit of value with her.

Newmarket:
Bon Hoffa. 4 from 4 1200. Won Bobbie Lewis this T&D smashing them including Swick. Completely ignore Oakleigh Plate run, no chance from barrier 1, needs plenty of room on the outside, was running sideways all the way down the straight looking to get to the outside.
Sneaky mention for Miss Judgement at huge odds. Oakleigh Plate run wasn't bad (5th), goes better with more racing i think i've heard about her, extra 100m is good, and straight track is good, she won a straight race last November at the carnival.
One to ponder, Zipping! :cool: I think i heard that he and Efficient are only having 1 start each and being saved for the Spring? If that's the case, he'd be fully would up you'd think? No excuse for him to not be if it's his only run, and he goes well 1st up and at the track.

Guineas:
Maybe Sound Journey. Nothing wrong with a last start win, he had the outside barrier too, and made a long/early run and got the win, yeah Playright got held up slightly. But Sound Journey has a better barrier here and really should get a perfect run.

Cup:
Sirmione, won Mackinnon this T&D, surely will be far improved from St George run at Flem his better track, was making ground or at least not losing any ground to Princess Coup back on the poorer inside at Caulfield.
 

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