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HBF
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footyman said:
What is Dowlers best position? I've heard he can play FF, CHF and CHB. Surely if Carlton were going to draft him that high, they would do a full medical check on him.
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Dowler played two full seasons of footy and Varcoe did not. Varcoe probably should have been in a wheelchair given the condition of his foot and the fact his doctors took so long to diagnose his problem.Merrick said:
We'll re-assess it in two weeks time. But Dowler is still well and truly in the mix for a top 5 selection and thats what the update shows.
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Of course they will. I reckon all interested clubs will.HugeBluesFan said:
It's quite likely Dowler could have a full medical check at 7am on Saturday November 26th.
Just like a vet looking over a racehorse prior to its sale.
His best position is forward, he looked unsettled down back.
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footyman said:
IMO, Carlton need another quality midfielder and Key defender. I'm just not sure we need another tall forward with Fevola, Waite, Fisher and Whitnall in our best 22.
HugeBluesFan said:
Those are exactly my thoughts and it really bugs me as to why Carlton would go for another key forward when we an established forward in Fev and several younger forwards in Fisher, Waite and possibily OHalphin.
If Carlton thinks Dowler is miles ahead of the others than I hope they take him but otherwise I hope we end up with Hurn or Kennedy at Pick 4.
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Whitnall has been played down back lately, no?HugeBluesFan said:
Besides, Waite and Fisher are both versatile enough to play other roles, especially if you want to release Waite onto a wing or in the midfield.
while it's just my opinion, I can't see any way on God's earth that Carlton will take Dowler at 4. for me, no chance.
why? forget the player himself, look at the context of the situation carlton find themselves in.
They are back in the draft in a big way, looking to make a positive splash for the first time really since the infamous 2002 draft. This is a very big deal for them, recall pagan's great line "you give me draft picks, and I'll give you pretty football".
In this environment, no way can Carlton afford such a high risk to thrown back in the face with hindsight. They cannot afford such a risky situation, it's not whether he makes it, or not, it will come down to whether they could justify the pick to the blues faithful if it all goes **** up.
Dowler has too much egg on the face downside for a club in Carlton's position to take that risk. Maybe another club but not carlton, no way.
why? forget the player himself, look at the context of the situation carlton find themselves in.
They are back in the draft in a big way, looking to make a positive splash for the first time really since the infamous 2002 draft. This is a very big deal for them, recall pagan's great line "you give me draft picks, and I'll give you pretty football".
In this environment, no way can Carlton afford such a high risk to thrown back in the face with hindsight. They cannot afford such a risky situation, it's not whether he makes it, or not, it will come down to whether they could justify the pick to the blues faithful if it all goes **** up.
Dowler has too much egg on the face downside for a club in Carlton's position to take that risk. Maybe another club but not carlton, no way.
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vinnie_vegas69 said:
Vinnie, you're right about Whitnall. He played that loose man in defence roll. What we need though is another tall down back that does not play that loose man roll. That's why i am hoping we go for Kennedy at #4 should he be available.
As for Waite and Fisher, Fisher is predominantly a forward. Great mark for his size. Just needs to work on his kicking skills. Waite can play up the ground, but I do like Fisher/Waite "double-act" inside the forward 50, especially with Fevola playing out of the goal square.
As much as i respect Footymans work, I just cannot see why Carlton would look at Dowler - injury or not!
Kennedy has a very serious shoulder injury. He will most likely require a full reconstruction and will miss as much time if not more than Dowler.
Hurn is a very good player, but arguably the most over rated player in these draft boards.
I can't believe I am reading Carlton people argue that they have enough key forwards.
All in all Dowler is amongst the best 3 Key forwards in the draft pool and the only local boy. He has kicked almost 100 goals in two seasons at TAC cup level and averaged almost 10 marks a game. Assuming his diagnosis is positive then why wouldn't they consider him?
Hurn is a very good player, but arguably the most over rated player in these draft boards.
I can't believe I am reading Carlton people argue that they have enough key forwards.
All in all Dowler is amongst the best 3 Key forwards in the draft pool and the only local boy. He has kicked almost 100 goals in two seasons at TAC cup level and averaged almost 10 marks a game. Assuming his diagnosis is positive then why wouldn't they consider him?
TheSooner said:
Don't put it that way, what the Carlton people are arguing about is that we have much much bigger holes to fill before we look to the forward line. We need a backman real bad, then midfielders; forward line is probably the one area where we can match it with most teams.
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Yeah, the pat on the back goes to you.TheSooner said:
Adds yet another complication to this draft.
Whatever happens the Dowler and Kennedy issues will make this draft near on impossible to predict until just before the day. Those medical reports the day before will be crucial!
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sinepari said:
I havent seen enough of either to really comment. However, going on the descriptions I have read, I think I would prefer Oakley- Niccolls. He has more 'x factor' and adds abit of the unknown. We have pleanty of midfielders and pleanty of young ones who are deserving of a game but cant break into the side. Swallow would just join that line and be behind guys like Butler, Waters, Selwood, Le Cras, Rosa and Morton (to name afew). Those guys are basically competing for 1 or maybe 2 midfield positions.
For some reason I just cannot imagine us taking Swallow. Oakley Niccolls is a chance. I think Pheiffer is the go at 13. Or maybe one of the talls if one slides.
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TheSooner said:
The first point sounds like Judd
The second sounds like Sampi
The third sounds like plain common sense (though Waite goes OK and will only get better and was in the 2001 draft)
The fourth might be based on Hawthorns's Roughhead theory (I couldn't find anyone to compare to in the 2001 draft well Freo with Polak but he's a viable canidate with point two as well these days) last year of take the best available tall who can't cry to go home interstate which was based on McPharlin have Carlton had one of those? Anyway they might be playing it safe just in case. Which anyway is a smart thing to do when you finally realise you need to rebuild.
Zack said:
1. Kennedy is no Judd. Not even same universe. Judd was always a freak. The injury just knocked him from 1 to 3 in a very very good year.
2. Sampi had plenty of dvelopment left. Hurn is almost fully matured. He might play early, however he might also be very close to his peak. He is also a HBF at the next level - not on ball and not key position. Not worth pick 4 for mine.
3 and 4. At pick 4 you take the best available player. If you are having trouble deciding between a couple then take the one from your backyard.
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Ridiculous comment and weren't you there when Fev kicked the matchwinner from the Boundary line?Merrick said:
Carlton also have Adam Hartlett who may be more of a natural forward than a defender.So Hussey is right that we have more pressing needs than adding another leading forward.
He may not be another Judd, but a shoulder reconstruction isn't as career threatening than fracturing your pelvis in three places.
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I didn't say I wouldn't take a key forward and I've read on here Dowler's a leading forward, which we do have with Waite, Fev, Deluca, O'Hailpin and Fisher.
We need a CHF/CHB like Kennedy who can contest or an onballer/defender like Hurn.
We need a CHF/CHB like Kennedy who can contest or an onballer/defender like Hurn.
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Dowler at #4
