Coaching Staff Former Coach James Hird

[naraku]

I would guess he is coming back to be present at the meeting tomorrow and at least listen to any proposal he may get to take over as coach, which is not what I see as the right thing to do either.

 

[BrunoV]

I think there should be 3 options in the poll. I'd never say never, but now isn't the right time. Hird should spend a few years doing a proper apprenticeship with another club(s), and all the coaching accreditations. If he succeeds at that then anything's possible sometime in the future.

I read stuff like this a lot.

I interpret it as too self conscious to say that he should just coach.

What does he need to do a coaching apprenticeship for? He coached a team for 3 full years. He knows more than anyone else we could appoint that hasn't already coached.

He's already been back in the system so he knows what the updated tactical approaches are.

It's process for the sake of process.

 

[westking]

Oh please no.

 

[Proper Gander]

Hello boncer34 . Good thread. Obviously designed to get the views of Essendon supporters so equally obviously I am going to crash it and give you my entirely unwanted opinions.

Should Hird coach again?

I would like to see this just to answer the question about whether he can coach. He had Essendon humming nicely - and probably over performing in terms of list. Injuries struck, and then the drug scandal kicked in. After this point, any win he achieved was questioned. I don’t personally think that the run Essendon had was down to performance enhancing drugs. The genius types like Dank overseeing that bit were not organised or knowledgeable enough to turn a list into studs overnight, so I’m going to give Hird the points here in having the charisma or something to make people want to play.

So basically yes I would be interested in seeing now whether Hird can achieve anything with an AFL list, particularly since he has credentialed himself the long way now, rather than being lifted from the stars. Basically to answer the question of whether he is a good coach or not.

Should Hird coach Essendon again?

Right now? Absolutely not. Essendon, like practically every team, have a set of issues to overcome and this is best done without the blinding intensity of the shitstorm which would eventuate if you appointed him now. Neither he nor Essendon would have a good run at the challenge - the media scrutiny would kill you and James within 12 months.

But yeah, I’m curious about how he would go at another club

 

[eighties_bomber]

the fact that theres even a conversation about it is ****ing Essendon to a ****ing T! every campaigner who even half thinks about this is ****ing delusional!

 

[damochandler]

Why the **** would he want to come back, why would anyone think he should come back to a shambles and it’s a bigger shambles then it was when took over from knights

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

On his way back to Melbourne. Apparently left immediately after GWS match ended.

He lives in Melb, seasons over so makes perfect sense he flew straight home

 

[Jack Richards]

Get away from the Boys club and stop being so insular. Give us a no-nonsense coach who won't give the players too much control.

 

[Knighta21]

Why the **** is anyone voting yes? We need to go in a different direction. I couldn’t imagine even he wants to go through that shit again.

 

[bennyg12]

Zero chance

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Assistant Coach (IF SENIOR COACH APPROVES)

thats it

 

[Nifft]

Assistant Coach (IF SENIOR COACH APPROVES)

thats it

Could you imagine a senior coach at Essendon that would be happy having Hird waiting in the wings as an assistant? Every week they'd be wondering if they were going to get dumped for Hird. Plus the constant questions from media would drive them mad.

 

[raskolnikov]

Where's the "Hell No" option?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Could you imagine a senior coach at Essendon that would be happy having Hird waiting in the wings as an assistant? Every week they'd be wondering if they were going to get dumped for Hird. Plus the constant questions from media would drive them mad.

hence why i said IF the senior coach approves

 

[The Donners]

Why the * is anyone voting yes? We need to go in a different direction. I couldn’t imagine even he wants to go through that s**t again.

90% are non-Essendon posters. They want Hird for the lols.

 

[Old Campaigner]

The only way he gets in as part of a proper process is if he's the best candidate to apply.

Unless a bunch of more qualified coaches decide not to apply (and who could blame them?) then I don't see a scenario where he can possibly be the most qualified person available.

 

[bennyg12]

Surely not

 

[The Devils Advocate]

No.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

If Hird gets the job there will be a mass exodus of members. I love the bloke and I still think he'd be a great coach but we as a club need to move on from what happened. I hope he gets a gig at another club one day.

 

[Lore]

If Hird gets the job there will be a mass exodus of members. I love the bloke and I still think he'd be a great coach but we as a club need to move on from what happened. I hope he gets a gig at another club one day.

I feel like they’d lose about 50k of diehard supporters (and their families)who have been paying attention to this whole mess, and gain 70k in bandwagoners. So overall it’s still a positive sum game.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

hence why i said IF the senior coach approves

Then that senior coach is an Ernst Rohm-level dumbass and shouldn't be the senior coach in the first place

(Apologies for invoking Simon Goodwin's law)

 

[JayJ20]

I was flabbergasted seeing the amount of people voting yes for Hird until I clicked to see who voted and realised that many non-Essendon posters voted yes. We'll probably end up with him because other experienced coaches like Lyon, Pyke, Buckley and Scott won't touch this place like Clarkson.

 

[fairbump_playon]

I voted yes. Slightly for a laugh but also because I actually don’t believe that this is the turning point (because everything off field is still such a mess) and I feel like the club is magnetically pulled to do it sooner or later. If not now, they will roll another decent coach two years into this build.

It’s probably better to throw Hird in now and if it fails we are truly at rock bottom.

If it succeeds well.. I guess it does. My gut feel is he is fundamentally a very capable coach but the history is what it is, so hostility from the footy world (and for some reason the fan base - which I don’t fully understand) would be unreasonably brutal.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

If Hird gets the job there will be a mass exodus of members. I love the bloke and I still think he'd be a great coach but we as a club need to move on from what happened. I hope he gets a gig at another club one day.

no there wont be

Anyone with a brain would have stopped following the bombers long ago, yet here we all are pissing our money away setting membership records.

Hird wont stop us giving our money to the club, its like an addiction.

 

[ghostdog]

I was flabbergasted seeing the amount of people voting yes for Hird until I clicked to see who voted and realised that many non-Essendon posters voted yes. We'll probably end up with him because other experienced coaches like Lyon, Pyke, Buckley and Scott won't touch this place like Clarkson.

I voted yes, if a fair dinkum process determines he's the best candidate. The question is too cut and dried.