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The end of football as we know it.

With the AFL tribunal holding up the Match Review Panels ridiculous 2 game suspension of Lance Franklin for a perfectly legal bump on Ben Cousins the face of the modern game is changed forever. How many players will now "go the bump" when confronted with the same situation as Lance faced on Saturday night? Not many now I bet. Why do the AFL seem hell bent on taking the toughness from the game and turning into a pale imitation of the contact sport that Australian Rules Football is all about. I'm not interested in watching the castrated sport that the AFL want to push and I propose if they continue in this direction the fans will desert in droves.
 
Re: Would the decision be the same without Cuz concussion?

Shpeshal Ed said:
If ANYTHING, they should suspend him simply because Hawthorn don't deserve to be in the finals, and anything they can do to make sure they don't make it would be good for football.

Hawthorn playing in this years finals would make the AFL look like a joke. Not that Essendon making it would look much better, but 10 and a half wins is a crapload better than 10 wins and no percentage.
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Sounds like you're a nervous supporter of a team that haven't beaten the Hawks in 3 years
 

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Re: The end of football as we know it.

He should have been rubbed out as per the rules; the MRP made the right call and so did whichever mob was responsible for throwing out the appeal.

However, it is the RULES that are diabolical. That should not be two weeks. It should not be one. It should be a free kick -- that is all.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

There is one thing I don't like about AFL. I like to watch a variety of sports, but the most annoying thing about watching AFL is having to constantly hear commentators and viewers complain about
1. How poor umpiring, and shocking decisions
2. How the game has changed too much, and lack of physicality

It seems all people have to talk about are the above, rather than what a great spectacle, or free flowing game it is

Can't people just accept the game has evolved.

For example, basketball has changed tremendously, but we don't hear the fans or commentators constantly nag on about it.

Yes, the bump was probably unavoidable, but surely you do not need to overexaggerate by saying AFL is at the end. If you don't like it, turn off the TV, and go for a walk.

Problem solved.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

garygee said:
Why do the AFL seem hell bent on taking the toughness from the game and turning into a pale imitation of the contact sport that Australian Rules Football is all about.
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Contact sport? Aussie Rules isn't even a sport any more. It's a business, run by a cabal.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

It was just another play that occurred on the footy field. Yeah Benny got ko'd, it's not like Lance intended that.

We are gonna have to put up with this crap, because the guy that runs the game doesn't seem to understand that players are gonna get hurt, no matter what rule changes you make.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

garygee said:
With the AFL tribunal holding up the Match Review Panels ridiculous 2 game suspension of Lance Franklin for a perfectly legal bump on Ben Cousins the face of the modern game is changed forever. How many players will now "go the bump" when confronted with the same situation as Lance faced on Saturday night? Not many now I bet. Why do the AFL seem hell bent on taking the toughness from the game and turning into a pale imitation of the contact sport that Australian Rules Football is all about. I'm not interested in watching the castrated sport that the AFL want to push and I propose if they continue in this direction the fans will desert in droves.
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Franklin had the option to tackle in the line with the laws of the game, he chose to shirtfront Cousins and it was shoulder to head. All players know they must not hit the head, regardless, Franklin had duty of care.

The bump was not legal, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Saying players won't bump is laughable, the bump is actually called 'Hip and Shoulder' hench where the contact is meant to be made.

Fans deserting in droves...so are you saying you won't be going to the footy anymore??
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

Since when has a bump to the head been "perfectly legal". He got what he deserved. The AFL has made it clear that if you choose to bump and you had another option (eg tackle) you cannot touch the head of the player. Stiff.
 

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bloody hawthorn supporters. didnt see you guys coming out in force asking for the MRP's head over some of the shocking desicions that have been made over the last two years.

you've had it extremely good. try getting some of the results the saints have had.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

Guys get off the typical BF mentality that we have to trash talk all other opposition supporters. This isn't about Hawthorn, it's about the farce that is becoming the AFL. They feel a need to change/create a new rule every 3 months. I'm still mystified why PUSH in the back was changed to HANDS in the back. Considering this is a contact sport, what's so bad about having hands on someones back?

Forget that the OP is a Hawks supporter, ask yourself this. What do you like about AFL? I for one love the physicality of it, the old one-on-one FF v FB contests, and the different aspects that other sports don't have such as the hip and shoulder. I'm only 20, so i'm not an old school fan, i love the new, fast game, but the simple fact is the AFL are ruining our beloved sport and making it a game for girls.

Franklin's hip and shoulder was absolutely perfect. It was a perfect example of the greatness and excitement that AFL brings. Did anybody here actually not enjoy watching it (other than Tigers supporters)?

Ask yourself this, do you like seeing a good hip and shoulder? Do you prefer the bump to be in the game instead of not being in it? The majority of us want it in the game, and the AFL are abolishing it for some stupidass reason which I just can't get my head around
 
Re: Hypotheticly...........

Ruse said:
That's the problem these days, kids are passing school without being taught to to properly read and write. If he hands in a resume riddled with spelling mistakes he's got no hope. Unless of course, him employer is as backwards as he is.

I notice a lot of posters don't know the difference between the words 'there, they're and their' and it's ****ing appalling.
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This is bigfooty you goose. People usually post on here with other things going on in the background, with other thoughts running through their head, its not a task like an assignment or resume where you'd devote all your attention... I know I'm a great speller but make many typos on internet forums because i type fast and if i make a mistake i dont even bother to correct as long as the word is still eligible to read..

**** me, ppl who harp on about spelling on an internet forum must be the biggest tossers in real life. :thumbsdown:
 
Is the Head really sacrosanct?

"Head is sacrosanct." How many times have you heard it today? In fact it's trotted out every time there's an unfortunate incident that involves a player seeing stars. The AFL are standing there behind this statement waving their flag and smiling while they repeat the mantra. Do Demetriou and his henchmen who manipulate our once glorious game really believe this? I think not. The truth is very different. If they were serious about this "Head is sacrosanct" statement then incident high contact to the head that occurs in a marking competition would also be ruled out. How is a player to have a "duty of care" when tackkly, bumping and generally pursuing the ball or player but the be relieved of that "duty of care" when involved in a marking competition. So the cliche the AFL should be trotting out is "Head is sacrosanct except when marking."
 
Re: Is the Head really sacrosanct?

garygee said:
"Head is sacrosanct." How many times have you heard it today? In fact it's trotted out every time there's an unfortunate incident that involves a player seeing stars. The AFL are standing there behind this statement waving their flag and smiling while they repeat the mantra. Do Demetriou and his henchmen who manipulate our once glorious game really believe this? I think not. The truth is very different. If they were serious about this "Head is sacrosanct" statement then incident high contact to the head that occurs in a marking competition would also be ruled out. How is a player to have a "duty of care" when tackkly, bumping and generally pursuing the ball or player but the be relieved of that "duty of care" when involved in a marking competition. So the cliche the AFL should be trotting out is "Head is sacrosanct except when marking."
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You need to get over it. Franklin got rubbed out and you now have no chance of making the finals. The way she goes unfortunately.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

Actually its the end of Whoreforn as we know it. At least for this year. Have a cry.
 
Re: The end of football as we know it.

GuzzLG said:
Actually football goes beyond Round 22 if you didn't know. There's this thing called finals which you will have a fun time spectating this year.
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So might the Bombers, don't get cocky, we are still the walking wounded & I am still puzzled how we beat the Saints.

Doesn't matter which of us get in the finals, I can't see either side getting past round one, might be better to go out this week, than be humiliated in the finals.
 

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