Franklin is a better half forward than Ablett ever was

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Hi Bay.

It continues to be true.

Even in 2010 ( a poor year by Franklin's standards ) he was statistically better than Ablett in 1989 (Ablett's best year). Particularly when you take into consideration all the zoning and double-teaming that didn't happen in Ablett's day.

This year Franklin's stats are better still.

Budwah is '20 and 3' ing, with 20 disposals and 3.6 goals a game. If he continues to maintain he'll end up with a 20 disposal average in a season (something Ablett has never come close to).

As a half forward Ablett played full forward a lot, which pumped up his goal average, while Franklin remains a pure half-forward. His stats of 20 disposals and 3.6 goals a game this year are pretty crazy.

And the tackle comparison is just embarassing for Ablett, with Franklin thrashing him here.

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Granted, Ablett was the flashier player, but it can no longer be denied that Franklin is just outperforming him now.

Regards,

HP.
 

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Franklin's not a full forward and really hasn't played a full forwards game all year.

Ablett on the other hand played full forward many times when he was regarded as a half forward.

i.e. 1988 against the Brisbane Bears where he had 16 disposals and kicked 11.2 as a full forward :)
 
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Lol no shit! Franklin and Ablett shouldn't even be mentioned in the same thread unless Franklin kicks 1000 goals, and at Spuddys rate he will kick 1000 behinds first

Franklin probably won't get to 1000 goals unless he spends a few years at full forward like Ablett did :) Easier to kick goals as a full forward.

You'll also notice that it's a lot more difficult for full forwards to kick goals these days.

Ablett, even when he was noted as a half forward, would play full forward and fill his boots against the poor sides like Brisbane Bears and Richmond, playing against one-on-one defences and poor defenders.

Franklin doesn't have that luxury, so the stats are adjudged differently here.

So far, Franklin is ahead.
 
also find it funny, how many more would gary of kicked if the 'chopping the arms' rule was alive back then?

Ablett played in an era when it was real football, tough and uncompromising. Buddy didnt.

Throw buddy into a game in abletts era and he wouldnt be able to knock the fluff off a cappuccino.
 
Haha, can you imagine these two playing on each other?

Hahahahhhhhahahaahahahahaha Buddy would last 2 minutes.

Yep, more tackles makes Buddy the superior player for sure

hahahahahahahaha this is your best yet podgey :D:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:

Hey Doris, I think you may be getting this mixed up with one of your Geelong 'sledge our own' wind-up threads.
 

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Buddy cant contested mark and his chipscabbing goalkicking was worked out by the opposition, result= move him up the ground where he can have more space to lose his opponent.

He is going backwards at a rate of knots, the media have all but stopped fapping over him. I suggest you do the same HP.
 
also find it funny, how many more would gary of kicked if the 'chopping the arms' rule was alive back then?

Ablett played in an era when it was real football, tough and uncompromising. Buddy didnt.

Throw buddy into a game in abletts era and he wouldnt be able to knock the fluff off a cappuccino.

I find it funny that HP thinks the fact Buddy averages more tackles than Ablett did back in 1989 is some kind of achievement. You just have to look at the stats from back then - the leading tackler for the season was Dipper with 70. Last year, the leading tackler for the season was Andrew Swallow with 183. In fact, the following players have all recorded more tackles so far this year than Dipper did in 1989:

Scott Thompson, Brent Reilly, Jack Redden, Chris Judd, David Ellard, Andrew Carrazzo, Marc Murphy, Luke Ball, Scott Pendlebury, Ben Howlett, Heath Hocking, Brent Stanton, Matthew de Boer, James Kelly, Michael Rischitelli, Gary Ablett, Jared Brennan, Liam Shiels, Brad Sewell, Brent Moloney, Colin Sylvia, Andrew Swallow, Jack Ziebell, Matt Thomas, Nathan Foley, Daniel Jackson, Robin Nahas, Clinton Jones, Nick Dal Santo, David Armitage, Jude Bolton, Ryan O'Keefe, Josh Kennedy, Craig Bird, Martin Mattner, Jarryd McVeigh, Scott Selwood, Matt Priddis, Andrew Embley, Liam Picken, Daniel Cross, Matthew Boyd and Ryan Griffen.

In other words, of the 603 players who have played so far this season, 43 of them have surpassed Dipper's mark in 1989, and there's still 7 rounds to go! 104 players surpassed the 70 tackle mark last year.
 
Podgey using raw stats to make his argument, check my Mrs September thread and you will see Podgy dismissing stats as irrelevant and referring to supercoach points as more important.......

Btw, if they had supercoach when Gazza was playing his records would still be standing, 200 points per week easily.
 
also find it funny, how many more would gary of kicked if the 'chopping the arms' rule was alive back then?

The changing of the chopping the arms rule interpretation hasn't increased or decreased the performance of the forwards who played under both interpretations of the rule.

Sorry, but Ablett clearly played under the easier era for key position forwards, as the stats show.
 

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