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It goes to the argument of overall stat output. Defensive work such as tackling would affect one's attacking game in terms of scoring shots.
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Franklin is a better half forward than Ablett ever was
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It goes to the argument of overall stat output. Defensive work such as tackling would affect one's attacking game in terms of scoring shots.
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Sorry, but supercoach points are based on stats, so i didn't dismiss them as irrelevant at all. I just suggested you stop looking at possessions exclusively.
Keep backpedaling, backpedaler.....
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Correcting you isn't backpedalling at all, it's actually very consistent with our usual dialogue. You'll know i'm backpedalling when i start agreeing with you lol
Now read your sig. Good boy.
That explains how that fat **** Dunstall got all his goals then....
lmao, you have a strange obsession with stats that goes a little too far, i will give you some advice on this, spend more time watching football and less time playing fantasy online coaching games
comparing a players stats from 1989 to 2011? bahahahaha, i think the game has changed a slight bit to make it irrelevant in just about every aspect possible.
going by your logic of stats then joel corey is a better player then leigh matthews ever was, joel corey as a midfielder>>>>>> leigh matthews as a midfielder
im sorry but the football world doesnt conclude things off a football fantasy coaching game like you think it does.
comparing a players stats from 1989 to 2011? bahahahaha, i think the game has changed a slight bit to make it irrelevant in just about every aspect possible.
going by your logic of stats then joel corey is a better player then leigh matthews ever was, joel corey as a midfielder>>>>>> leigh matthews as a midfielder
im sorry but the football world doesnt conclude things off a football fantasy coaching game like you think it does.
Its just another pointless "different era" HP thread. How bout I point out Franklin will have to play another 10 seasons to match Ablett snr's goal total? He will be near 35 by then, not impossible but unlikely. And will he have bags of 100+ 3 yrs running from age 32 on? Unlikely. And will he have 36 disposals and kick 5 goals as an onballer as Ablett did one night against WCE? Never happen. Put Ablett into this era, he would still dominate, put franklin into that era where contested marking and strength were everything and he would struggle to get a kick.
How many months along is he?
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Nah, this thread is about podgey thinking and wishing Franklin was going to turn out to be the greatest forward eva.
Then over the years he has seen Franklin fail to get near that level, his dreams are all but shattered. He genuinely thinks he can sway public opinion in the Bay, so he thought he'd go all out to pump up Franklin on the back of a few possessions and some tackles.
podgey actually believes just about everything he posts, and will defend this shite until no one else can even be bothered s******ing at him any more.
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lol, podge must have been super dooper extra bored today. 
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Ablett was near 35 when he retired too, so I'm not sure how age is an argument here.
Franklin has already kicked the ton as a non full-forward, in an era which makes that nigh on impossible for a traditional full forward, let alone a non full-forward like Franklin was in 2008.
Ablett never achieved that feat at anywhere but full forward in an era where tons were kicked every year. Advantage Franklin.
Does he have to have those exact same stats? It sounds like something totally achievable for Franklin, i.e. 28 and 6 against Sydney is just as good if not better.
This about sums up how ridiculous you are being
In other words Franklin's not a Full Forwards arseh*le this year.
yeah thats right he is a chf ya flog!!
face to palm.
people rarely got double teamed back in abletts day ya flog.
I saw him plenty.
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Ablett has a total of 1 AA nomination as a half forward. Granted there was no AA in 1989 which was his best year, so i'll be generous and give him 2 AA noms as a half forward, in 10 seasons of VFL/AFL footy.
Franklin has two, and another already locked in this season, which means 3 in 7 seasons.
Franklin has two, and another already locked in this season, which means 3 in 7 seasons.
Ablett has a total of 1 AA nomination as a half forward. Granted there was no AA in 1989 which was his best year, so i'll be generous and give him 2 AA noms as a half forward.
Franklin one, and another already locked in this season.
Derp. He made 4 AA teams (1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 (Captain)).
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Derp. He made 4 AA teams (1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 (Captain)).
I said as a half forward
Now there was no AA team in 1989 so I'm generously giving that one. So he has 1989 and 1992. Two.
5 AAs all up, (one of them not official, but i'm giving it.)
There was no AA in 1982 and 1984 when he also played, but he was not going to make it anyway in those years.
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Well I guess that makes Nick Riewoldt a better half forward than Ablett too since Riewoldt is better than Franklin.
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This is the Riewoldt who was held goalless by Eric McKenzie eh?
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Just like Buddy in the 2008 prelim he played the decoy role to perfection allowing our other forwards to do the damage.
Selfless team play.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 521 goals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 415 goals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 2144 disposals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 1945 disposals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 738 marks in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 698 marks in 133 matches.
Ablett Snr is greater than Buddy.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 415 goals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 2144 disposals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 1945 disposals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 738 marks in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 698 marks in 133 matches.
Ablett Snr is greater than Buddy.
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Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 521 goals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 415 goals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 2144 disposals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 1945 disposals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 738 marks in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 698 marks in 133 matches.
Ablett Snr is greater than Buddy.
hahaha.
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Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 521 goals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 415 goals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 2144 disposals in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 1945 disposals in 133 matches.
Gary Ablett Snr after 7 seasons had 738 marks in 128 matches.
Buddy Franklin in his 7th season has 698 marks in 133 matches.
Ablett Snr is greater than Buddy.
Slanted stats are slanted, after all Ablett debuted as a 22 - going on 23 - year old for Geelong and Franklin as an 18 year old for Hawthorn. Naturally mature age players are going to perform better earlier on in their careers
That's just desperate stat shifting and muddying of the waters from you when i've been so fair to concede Ablett the 1989 AA selection because there was no side that year. Please join me in the spirit of fairness so we can have an honest debate If you want a genuine appraisal, just look to Ablett's non selection in several AA teams, while Franklin is already selected in two and the third is in the bag.
My god you are a muppet. You answered it in the OP you twit, Ablett didnt average 20 touches because he was playing deep forward...maybe you should measure him against Carey, how does he stack up against him podge? Vale another podge thread.
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